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  1. #1121

    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    seriously, provide citations. I want to learn. I have never read anything about this claim before.
    DNA is a long polymer made from repeating units called nucleotides.[2][3][4]



    ....


    The DNA double helix is stabilized by hydrogen bonds between the bases attached to the two strands. The four bases found in DNA are adenine (abbreviated A), cytosine (C), guanine (G) and thymine (T). These four bases are attached to the sugar/phosphate to form the complete nucleotide, as shown for adenosine monophosphate.

    DNA - Wikipedia

    You can also read this in all textbooks of genetics.

    Griffith's experiment showed base-pairing, and earlier than that, Miescher's experiment showed constituents of only 4 nucleic acids present in DNA but in varying amounts. Miescher is 100 years before Watson and Crick actually described the helical nature of DNA.

    Griffith's experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    ScienceDirect - Developmental Biology : Friedrich Miescher and the discovery of DNA

  2. #1122
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    hmmmm... isn't it the case that creation is prone to use science to dispute science? What I see about all creationism is that once there is new stuff found... creationists camp are quick to say "it's false" than observe and measure. Creation vs. Evolution is just one big battle between who presents the facts. But I lean on to the latter because "Science" shows the probable life appearance in detailed perspective. Like the fossils they found in Ethiopia [homonid species] that lived 4.4 million years ago. This, rather you can't find in the bible.
    you nailed it. creationists are quick to say it's false as they are with saying that GOD created everything.

  3. #1123
    “The genome reveals, indisputably and beyond any serious doubt, that Darwin was right — mankind evolved over a long period of time from primitive ancestors. Our genes show that scientific creationism cannot be true. The response to all those who thump their bible [sic] and say there is no proof, no test and no evidence in support of evolution is, ‘The proof is right here, in our genes.” Source: Arthur Caplan, a professor of bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, “Darwin vindicated!”

    Science has already declared it [evolution] to be a fact beyond any reasonable doubt.

  4. #1124
    Quote Originally Posted by Homo_quaeritans View Post
    what the other guy said means, you have to be something other than matter for it to be called evolution.

    but hey, i think the people here are discussing Darwinian Evolution that apparently evolved into neo-darwinian Evolution...so on.



    Yes, but key facets of Darwinism are ALL hypotheses, and NO observation. Show us randomness as lucky as it must be to produce organs. Show us micro-evolutionary processes resulting in macro-evolution. Prove selection for fitness will result in sophisticated bio-machinery. Hey, it isn't me who's claiming to the world such factors are, in the words of Dawkins et al, "a fact the way the Earth is round is fact," when none of it has ever been confirmed. It's scientism cult myth and nothing more.



    Lets drink the wine ... cheers !

  5. #1125
    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    Bro spring...I think we should thresh the use of semantics here.
    I am only emphasizing to uphold the true meaning of TRUTH and FACT that is both accepted in the CREATIONIST and EVOLUTIONIST communities . Many will hold against it because of being BIAS , ONE SIDED or IN FAVOR of WHO BENEFITS . But isnt it nice that there is one thing both of the said communities can agree with ? General definitions that is .

    When science says/declares that it's a scientific fact...it also means scientific truth. If you propound biblical truth to affirm/reinforce scientific truth, then it becomes a religious opinion.
    Reciprocal ra gihapon Bro Brown . What the bibles holds on to TRUTH is transalted to FAITH also not only by non believers but by hardliner scientist also .

    Scientific truths need no attestation outside of the scientific domain (bible, religious opinion) for its (scientific) findings/facts to stand.
    I can really agree on that because its a basis of how the creation was profoundly expounded . The thing is that I cant agree with is when SCIENCE discounts the BIBLE . Its hard and not acceptable , but it holds the TRUTH and FACTS . Both cant co exist with out each other .

    @ CHAD ....

    Yah gurl !! Bitaw , it was meant also as an icebreaker for those in heated arguments pero what I served in the tble makes sense between FACTS and TRUTH considering the application of the GUESSING and PREDICTION game . Hmmm ... What ifs ra to ... I am really a MAN with 2 hairy nuts .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  6. #1126
    Yes, evolution by descent from a common ancestor is clearly true. If there was any lingering doubt about the evidence from the fossil record, the study of DNA provides the strongest possible proof of our relatedness to all other living things. ~ Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D., is the director of the Human Genome Project.

    Take time to read from the view of a theistic evolutionist --> Collins: Why this scientist believes in God - CNN.com

  7. #1127
    ^^^^

    I will read that tonight . Tnx for the link . Heck 2 na diay mi THEISTIC EVOLUTIONIST , its just that I am not that well versed .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  8. #1128
    @ BLIND WATCHMAKER ( E......) TS


    Why does every evolutionist posts an article about evolution think that they are the foremost experts on the subject? I assume most of you probably failed biology, because the majority of you can't even form a complete, grammatically correct sentence, which leads me to believe that you are unintelligent. If you're trying to be intellectual, have the decency to post an intelligent comment. I can't take you seriously if you can't even communicate.


    wineup cheers...

  9. #1129
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    DNA is a long polymer made from repeating units called nucleotides.[2][3][4]



    ....


    The DNA double helix is stabilized by hydrogen bonds between the bases attached to the two strands. The four bases found in DNA are adenine (abbreviated A), cytosine (C), guanine (G) and thymine (T). These four bases are attached to the sugar/phosphate to form the complete nucleotide, as shown for adenosine monophosphate.

    DNA - Wikipedia

    You can also read this in all textbooks of genetics.

    Griffith's experiment showed base-pairing, and earlier than that, Miescher's experiment showed constituents of only 4 nucleic acids present in DNA but in varying amounts. Miescher is 100 years before Watson and Crick actually described the helical nature of DNA.

    Griffith's experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    ScienceDirect - Developmental Biology : Friedrich Miescher and the discovery of DNA
    the thing I was asking was, where did you get the idea that an increase/acquisition of traits through evolution necessitated an increase in the 4 bases of DNA? And the claim that since the 4 bases have always been 4, evolution is wrong.

  10. #1130
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    ^^^^

    I will read that tonight . Tnx for the link . Heck 2 na diay mi THEISTIC EVOLUTIONIST , its just that I am not that well versed .
    Makes the three of us ...and counting

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