View Poll Results: Is Evolution a scientific fact?

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  1. #1071

    I read that one too... thanks sir malic.

  2. #1072
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    theories will remain theories. Laws will remain laws. They don't change from one to another. Any scientifically inclined person knows this. How could you get it wrong?

    I am human and make mistakes, Sorry but I am only Human. When you walk on water then you can judge me. I only worked with the theories and have never tried to up grade or downgrade a theory. When I was in school that was the way we were instructed as I had remembered it, in the proper procedure Hypohhisies to theory to law, and that both Theories and Laws both can be still disproven. Last time I was in a college was in a class was 1994, and the last time I was in a lab was in 1999. I would not doubt that they are other things that I have forgotten over the years to. That is life. I am sure you remember everything you have ever read or did in school.

    When I saw your answer I looked on the internet and found where National Academy of Sciences (NAS) a scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses." No amount of validation changes a theory into a law, which is a descriptive generalization about nature. So when scientists talk about the theory of evolution--or the atomic theory or the theory of relativity, for that matter--they are not expressing reservations about its truth.

    It seems that the ongoing battle between Evolutionist and creationist may have brought out this redefining. Creationist trying to use the term Theory in court as to mean unproven and relegated to being insignificant. Evolution science trying to be established in all public school in the US have done so to block this practice used by creationist lawyers.


    That term Law now are rarely used anymore because of the complexities of many subject choose rather to just use the term theory instead.

    When I was a young studying it was a dream to make that great discovery that would have you name immortalized attached to a Law like Newton, now it will probably just be a theory. Most of the change has been because of the evolution movement.

    As I was researching you answer on the internet, I found I was not the only one confused with these changes in views.
    WikiAnswers - Can a theory become a scientific law
    The Austringer Another Look at Law and Theory
    Does a law have to be a theory before it becomes a law | ChaCha Answers
    spiked-science | survey | E=mc2 centenary survey | The scientific method - how science proceeds from theory to law
    Re: When does a theory become a law?
    /www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-192259677.htm

  3. #1073
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    An excerpt to the link I posted:

    "What a predicament!! What an embarrassment for Christianity! At a time when the Protestant church in America is fighting to re-introduce the teaching of creationism into the public schools, Pope John Paul II stuns the world and declares Darwin was right after all, and man has descended from the apes! He is dismissing Genesis as fable and actually accepting Darwin's Origin of the Species as fact! Absolutely amazing!"
    Does not apply to "Christians". Take a survey of those against evolution here. See if they are Christians.

    Disclaimer: (what I know)From the perspective of the non-Catholic crowd of Christianity, Catholics are not Christians. You are either a Catholic or a Christian(Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran etc etc ad nauseum).
    Last edited by schmuck; 10-05-2009 at 11:35 PM.

  4. #1074
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Once and for all people!

    This is critical for us... either you stick to your beliefs that man was created by God or not. I would like to appeal to my fellow believers to read this. The 2nd largest religion declared that Evolution is a FACT.

    Please follow the link and read them: Pope John Paul II Declares Evolution to be Fact!
    what a slap for creationists!

  5. #1075
    @jamesmusslewhite
    do you understand now that this -> "evolution is just a theory, not a law" is a stupid argument?

  6. #1076
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    Does not apply to "Christians". Take a survey of those against evolution here. See if they are Christians.

    Disclaimer: (what I know)From the perspective of the non-Catholic crowd of Christianity, Catholics are not Christians. You are either a Catholic or a Christian(Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran etc etc ad nauseum).
    I do find that very appalling! Catholics read the same book as these "non-Catholic crowd of Christianity" and yet they are displeased to that idea. I just wonder who is following the teachings of Christ.

    Salamat sir schmuck.

  7. #1077
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    @ CHAD ...

    - FACTS can change . It establishes TRUTH temporarily thats why there is a word called HOAX to some degrees . Thats EVOLVING out of EVOLUTION . Its the same thing as being not the accepted FACT no matter who proclaim it . Evidence doesnt constitute TRUTH but just FACTS .
    actually, it depends what FACTS you're referring to. if we talk about FACTS with limited observation then the probability of it changing is 2 in a million percent. however, if we talk solid FACTS then the chances of it slightly changing is impossible. however, there are truths that are simply truths. Spring is male. Spring is a mod. i can't change Spring to a woman unless he wants to (*** change). the Sun rises and sets. etc...

  8. #1078
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    what a slap for creationists!
    Not so fast Chad...majority of creationists do not belong to Roman Catholic Church. Actually its the other way around... it's a slap to catholics who had been had by the church attempts for conformity in doing so the RC acts of beatification of saints are now reduce to mere spectacle and the claims of miracles are now just mere fables...

    Creationist are of different breed...they are steadfast..they cannot be in a Roman Catholic..I would not be surprise if one day catholics will find gay marriage in the church's altars...its a matter of time...

    Maybe perhaps it can be argued that gay people simply evolve...

  9. #1079
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    I do find that very appalling! Catholics read the same book as these "non-Catholic crowd of Christianity" and yet they are displeased to that idea. I just wonder who is following the teachings of Christ.

    Salamat sir schmuck.
    noooo you're older than me >.<

    OT sharing tiem :
    around lent, a group of young adults approach our group asking if we we're Christians. The had pamphlets for some lenten worship activity.
    One of my friends replied, "yes, we are Catholic".
    They say, "oh ok." then turn around. No Pamphlets given.
    my friend ->

  10. #1080
    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Not so fast Chad...majority of creationists do not belong to Roman Catholic Church. Actually its the other way around... it's a slap to catholics who had been had by the church attempts for conformity in doing so the RC acts of beatification of saints are now reduce to mere spectacle and the claims of miracles are now just mere fables...

    Creationist are of different breed...they are steadfast..they cannot be in a Roman Catholic..I would not be surprise if one day catholics will find gay marriage in the church's altars...its a matter of time...

    Maybe perhaps it can be argued that gay people simply evolve...
    RC is the 2nd largest religion in the world. that has got to tell you something.

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