Evolution is now A FACT OF LIFE

[Malic]

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@ MALIC ... please attack the POST and not the POSTER . Tnx bro .

okay Spring, tnx for the reminder.

[chad_tukes]

Lastly ... it is not right to discount the question of WHO . Yes to the ATHEIST point of view that is fine but we are talking about SCIENCE and the 5 W's is a standard / norm part of a question which is the very first step in SCIENTIFIC METHODS in conducting a study .

so would it be safe to assume that Zeus probably created the universe? or Athena? the Nymphs? the River Gods? or probably some kind of God out there who is unknown to man? if we follow your argument that we should not discount the question of WHO, then it should be wrong to limit ourselves to the concept of GOD the Almighty ONLY.

[Malic]

theories will remain theories. Laws will remain laws. They don't change from one to another. Any scientifically inclined person knows this. How could you get it wrong?

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Did you misread what i just said or you just didn't get it? binisay-on kebot ha. Ang EVOLUTION gideklara na sa syensya nga usa ka kamatooran. Evolution is as factual as gravity -- that is the declaration of the entire scientific community.

The scientific community doesn't care whether you believe them or not - i repeat, the scientific community whether you believe it or not, doesn't care about your opinion, the opinion of your pastors, your fake scientists or teachers and even your Bible for they cannot change the fact about evolution.

let me guess their upcoming answer, hmmm, conspiracy theory and the likes?...hmmm hope im wrong.

[chad_tukes]

Thats why i said Creationism is MOSTLY FAITH and partly science... Cromag I just noticed that you are a man looking for answers but looking at the one portion of it. Seek and you shall find it. Don't close other possibility, so much for science cro... start learning about dogma it makes you a better person, better perspective, and better feeling...

creationism is PARTLY science? are you serious? where the heck did you get that... hehehehe

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

ummm so dili na diay theory ang evolution nahimo naman na siya ng fact... proven and tested naman...
so mahimo na siyang scientific law?

magsamok-samok lang ko diri... then ato na ning ibutang sa science na thread...

kay mag-istorya lang ta ug muu-muu ug kapre...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

so would it be safe to assume that Zeus probably created the universe? or Athena? the Nymphs? the River Gods? or probably some kind of God out there who is unknown to man? if we follow your argument that we should not discount the question of WHO, then it should be wrong to limit ourselves to the concept of GOD the Almighty ONLY.

That is a WHO question that was already answered . There is no need of relating it to a god whom the theist acknowledges as God . To start , its GREEK MYTHOLOGY and we all know what it is literature wise . As much as bible is concern , it is also a piece of LITERATURE but then all the 5 W's doesnt have a certain answer for it on an athiest point of view but one thing for sure , God existed if we reflect on the arguments of St. Thomas Aquinas and the logical thinking of St. Augustine .

I dont know if anyone else shares the same sentiments I have that CREATION and EVOLUTION should co- exist .

[chad_tukes]

I am proud of you the Philippines only produces 14 Scientist and Engineers per every one million population. Everyone should be proud of you. It is hard to go back to school and get back into rhythm. You have my respect.

OT: guys, don't believe what our "scientist" have to say. this is clearly a direct insult to Filipinos. this 50 year old man loves to think highly of himself because what, he's an American and a "scientist" as what he says he is? pathetic. for the record James, the Philippines DOES NOT produce 14 scientist and engineers per every one million population. be careful with your statements and make sure you get your facts straight before you even begin typing. i know A LOT of Filipino scientists and engineers and the number is not even close to 14.

[chad_tukes]

That is a WHO question that was already answered . There is no need of relating it to a god whom the theist acknowledges as God . To start , its GREEK MYTHOLOGY and we all know what it is literature wise . As much as bible is concern , it is also a piece of LITERATURE but then all the 5 W's doesnt have a certain answer for it on an athiest point of view but one thing for sure , God existed if we reflect on the arguments of St. Thomas Aquinas and the logical thinking of St. Augustine .

I dont know if anyone else shares the same sentiments I have that CREATION and EVOLUTION should co- exist .

in other words, it is your own truth and your truth alone.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

It could sound like that but mind you that by SCIENTIFICALLY INCLINED alone doesnt hold the truth either and is reciprocal to the BIBLICAL BELIEF we observe . For one who will have the truth and share a conclusion , both works in a systematic and a " magical " way .

Take note also ... a FACT doesnt mean or equate being the TRUTH .

Have you ever thought of how SCIENTIST came up with a notion to start asking questions about life's beginnings ? One way or the other , the basis for it was from the literal understanding of the creation . What are the chances of the investigation if , IF the bible never existed and still considering CREATION is still the TRUTH for the sake of the discussion between theist and atheist . Would there be any case studies conducted as early as Charles Darwin's ? I am pretty sure there is none because to start , EVOLUTION was based on an occurence that based from nothing and by chance .

On a different picture , I would take it back . Indeed what Brownprose said that the topic is MOOT and ACADEMIC is indeed true ! CREATION already provided the story and its EVOLUTION turn to prove that CREATION is not only a fact but the truth also . It may sound twisted but the theist are already contented of the story and nothing is wrong with that . The weight lies on the evolutionist / scientist because all that came up are only discoveries and theories it doesnt hold the truth until it can connect the dot . Bisan pila pa na ka facts i proclaim .

[chad_tukes]

It could sound like that but mind you that by SCIENTIFICALLY INCLINED alone doesnt hold the truth either and is reciprocal to the BIBLICAL BELIEF we observe . For one who will have the truth and share a conclusion , both works in a systematic and a " magical " way .

Take note also ... a FACT doesnt mean or equate being the TRUTH .

Have you ever thought of how SCIENTIST came up with a notion to start asking questions about life's beginnings ? One way or the other , the basis for it was from the literal understanding of the creation . What are the chances of the investigation if , IF the bible never existed and still considering CREATION is still the TRUTH for the sake of the discussion between theist and atheist . Would there be any case studies conducted as early as Charles Darwin's ? I am pretty sure there is none because to start , EVOLUTION was based on an occurence that based from nothing and by chance .

On a different picture , I would take it back . Indeed what Brownprose said that the topic is MOOT and ACADEMIC is indeed true ! CREATION already provided the story and its EVOLUTION turn to prove that CREATION is not only a fact but the truth also . It may sound twisted but the theist are already contented of the story and nothing is wrong with that . The weight lies on the evolutionist / scientist because all that came up are only discoveries and theories it doesnt hold the truth until it can connect the dot . Bisan pila pa na ka facts i proclaim .

truth can be subjective and relative. what is truth to you may not be truth to me and vice versa. however, on the other side of the spectrum, to say that FACTS do not equate TRUTH does not make sense since truth is the conformity to fact and/or actuality. when a fact is established it becomes the truth. however, when there are no facts to back up the claims, then it is not the general accepted truth, ergo, it becomes your own personal truth.

IMO, the weight lies on creationists... we have evidence and they do not. all they have is FAITH. faith can sometimes make a logical person illogical sometimes---so they have to prove their stand that God created everything and defend that notion---and so far i can tell, they've been ineffective at that.