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  1. #831

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    sure, but if you want to dive onto something that matters to you a lot like your faith in God and Creation then you need to read all the necessary notes to give you a better view of what defines truth or not.


    evolution is still creation and it stands proudly apart from biblical creation story.
    Well in this PERSONAL POV of yours, i cannot contest, i don't have the evidence either. Well see, how things goes. Let me give you an analogy malic...

    Analogy:
    When God said "the number of stars in heaven is as many as the grains of the sand".
    If you are right, you are suggesting that there are only a handful of stars at that time, and now EVOLVED INTO A COUNTLESS GALAXIES...

    "it stands proudly apart from biblical creation story"

    Be proud of what you are suggesting malic.

  2. #832
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    if you dis-agree chad, just say it, don't question wiki... every other thing makes an error... so try to settle on that reality... dont complain wiki have errors... you also have one... going back to the topic. well google it if you want... find a story of nebraska man saying its real... i bet you can find one...
    lets keep it that way... We all know yo don't beleive me and i don't believe you in the first place... so why do we have to prove we are right... actually i am not proving i am right... i am proving your evolution is WRONG! I only claim on this part...
    it's not about the ERRORS; it's about posting reliable sources. back when i went to college in upstate, my professor would have the class write extensively and post sources and they would check it one by one, and a big percentage of the grade would go to where you got your sources. it was required that it would come from scientific journals, peer review magazines, research articles, etc. anyway, OT na ta... back on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    because what you are beleiving are people who are capable of lies... what i told you are people trying and desperately proving your evolution. Malic its not my fault. Malic if the fossil does not qualify for evolution, they just drop it... so how? they will only tell us what to believe? hmmm... i don't trust those people, but i enjoy them doing it... coz it entertains me... /popcorn

    and creationists are lie-proof? no. desperately proving? nice choice of word but i don't buy it.

    Science investigates evidence. When a scientist claim to have discover something, Science will push the pedal to investigate then if meets the probable standard the theory then is re-aligned according to the data that had been observed. If further investigation reveals weakness in the evidence then the item of interest is deem false or inaacurate.


    you must undestand how science work kebz.

  4. #834
    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    bible stories are more of a lie . The research in evolution and the universe will always be a steping stones. assumption , theories more research and experiment to understand . it is not a lie , thats why its a theory , but has all the attributes to consider it a fact .

    not just believe in a written lie , and becomes a claim. being stagnant.

    Cromag simple ra kaau imo problema.

    IT is not the experiments that counts... its the RESULT. Bible and Archaeology are keeping things TRUE.

    Read Chariot in the RED SEA thread.
    --- how can they find Chariots in the middle of the sea? boat sinking? hmm no boats only chariots... If you want to believe in you experiments brad, its ok... but dont tell me to believe you... your experiments have yet to prove things, Archaeology proves the bible account hows that? By the way, Archaeology is the same people digging your bones...

    Gud luck.

  5. #835
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    because what you are beleiving are people who are capable of lies..
    let's follow your logic:

    creationists base their arguments from the Bible.
    the Bible was written by man.
    Kebot argues that man makes mistakes and are capable of lying.
    therefore, it could be possible that the Bible is written based on lies.

    do you agree kebs?

  6. #836
    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    I look like Brad Pitt, perhaps Brad Pitt is my relative.............he-he
    if we talk Evolution then yes Brad Pitt is your relative as well as Jolie---and also your next door monkey.

  7. #837
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    and creationists are lie-proof? no. desperately proving? nice choice of word but i don't buy it.

    Science investigates evidence. When a scientist claim to have discover something, Science will push the pedal to investigate then if meets the probable standard the theory then is re-aligned according to the data that had been observed. If further investigation reveals weakness in the evidence then the item of interest is deem false or inaacurate.


    you must undestand how science work kebz.

    Malic, you must understand this first and foremost. When science present a fact, it takes as much as 20 to 100 years to disprove it... Read pseudo science. And now these people are subscribing a thought of things that were never proven true...

    Yes science is a self correcting body of knowledge as it always does. So if science will prove the theory wrong then the THEORY IS WRONG not SCIENCE.

    When Thermodynamics said BIGBANG CANNOT BE TRUE. then its the BIG BANG that is wrong not Thermodynamics... Unless of course you will prove thermodynamics is WRONG... but gud luck to your thought malic. As i have told you, i am watching science i am evaluating things... its just the evolution claims is not possible...

    I tell you in the END YOU WILL BE STUCK WITH THE CHICKEN AND EGG PROBLEM. Just look at this instance.

    STAR
    - requires energy
    - requires element

    scenario:
    - energy produce element, element needs energy. so which comes is first?

    if you don't understand... just drop it... i don't want to explain things... its nice that you guys are giving me additional input.. but what you are trying to do is nothing that i agree on.

    we will see what happen... keep your eyes open, and keep evaluating things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    are you sure you want to believe it? Check out my posts about CHariots in the RED SEA.

    additional posts:

    People claimed that they unearthed a BELL on a COAL DEPOSIT. Do you know how many million years is coal? hmmm, its before dinosaurs as some people claimed... so wht did the bell do in the COAL? hmmm.
    i saw that already and made my own post in response to what you posted.

    Yes fossil record malic is an evidence that something had died. If you want to believe the physical details, well you are surely welcome, but please take note the variables before are never the same as today... hmmmm. If you want to believe they hunt in packs... go ahead. I wont argue.. but don't force me to believe because this is how this topic started... A FACT OF LIFE maybe A FACT OF LIES.
    nobody is forcing you kebz.

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Well in this PERSONAL POV of yours, i cannot contest, i don't have the evidence either. Well see, how things goes. Let me give you an analogy malic...

    Analogy:
    When God said "the number of stars in heaven is as many as the grains of the sand".
    If you are right, you are suggesting that there are only a handful of stars at that time, and now EVOLVED INTO A COUNTLESS GALAXIES...

    "it stands proudly apart from biblical creation story"

    Be proud of what you are suggesting malic.

    well maybe by the time the author penned those words the stars numbered as you phrased it "many as the grains of the sand."

    or maybe thr Galaxies and the stars exist already and just recently discovered.

    but pls elaborate, wala kaayo ma klaro imong point.

  9. #839
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    let's follow your logic:

    creationists base their arguments from the Bible.
    the Bible was written by man.
    Kebot argues that man makes mistakes and are capable of lying.
    therefore, it could be possible that the Bible is written based on lies.

    do you agree kebs?
    Thats because you omit "inspired by God". Do you know whats the ERROR? TRANSLATION.

    Well chad, they said bible is inconsistent... and what they are pointing out are TRANSLATIONS. Do you know how many authors the bible have? well if one commits error, what about the rest?

    If you want to agree my logic, then don't omit the creator...

  10. #840
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    i saw that already and made my own post in response to what you posted.



    nobody is forcing you kebz.
    --- so do you address the issue to me personally or to the people on this forum. Sorry malic, I present myself as a citizen on this forum, therefore what you are implying applies to me.



    well maybe by the time the author penned those words the stars numbered as you phrased it "many as the grains of the sand."

    or maybe thr Galaxies and the stars exist already and just recently discovered.

    but pls elaborate, wala kaayo ma klaro imong point.

    "many as the grains of the sand."
    --- this was written on the book of JOB. Written at least 2000years ago... maybe Job is the first to invent a telescope as what you are trying to tell me.. hmmm... we shud have checked the journals...

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