Man, Know Thyself & Who Am I - What Does It Really Mean

[The_Child]

The notion of the self?
can you make yourself clear dong, who decides for himself?
what is being irrational w/ rational psychology?

Descarte was right to some degree,,,as a materialist thinker.

Granting your right that the concept of the "I" is created by man himself, or as what you said imagined identities (w/c concept i dont have problems with)
so whats your problem w/ that?

whats your better understanding,,,objectively or subjectively speaking dong?

irrational w/ rational psychology- --- > dont make labo the thought. i dont know hat your referring ot here.

descartes was never a materialist thinker. kaya nga tinawag cya na rationalist, reason alone, ideas, not matter. e di ndi materialist diba?

i dont have a problem with that, but it seems though you have a problem with me having no problem on the problem at hand.


objectively ? subjectively? ----> dont make labo your statement. hehehe.

cheers!

[The_Child]

sir, very interesting. so who are you? the creator and the imaginer (himo himo ko og label)?

ot: wonder why teachers don't like to be called sir..

you are both, and at the same time, your the imaginer and the imagined. the creator and the created. (ms. charm, will castigate me again because im making labo the statement heheh)

so it depends where you stand, a neofreudian would say, in a time of development, you are projecting what you want yourself to be, a mirror, but this projection of what you intend yourself to be is hijacked by culture and language, so you might want to be this, thus you create yourself, but at the moment you finally actualize this image, it is hijack by cultural forces way beyond your own control.

[miyay]

^both the watcher and the watched. the observer and the observed. nice

[Egoist]

mao pud ingun maestro nako, we are not our feelings, we are not our intellect, we are not our thought

[Hellblazer 2.1]

mao pud ingun maestro nako, we are not our feelings, we are not our intellect, we are not our thought

your teacher is right.

[akimz]

We are what we think.
All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts, we make our world.

Buddha

[Lovely Charm]

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irrational w/ rational psychology- --- > dont make labo the thought. i dont know hat your referring ot here.

descartes was never a materialist thinker. kaya nga tinawag cya na rationalist, reason alone, ideas, not matter. e di ndi materialist diba?

i dont have a problem with that, but it seems though you have a problem with me having no problem on the problem at hand.


objectively ? subjectively? ----> dont make labo your statement. hehehe.



Parang tama si sir fingolfin, na you just post for the sake of posting...

im confused w/ you sir

you seem to be intelligent pero you dont know how to "land" your thoughts
you know what i think- your intelligent,,your just haunted w/ your catholic blind devotion, so much so na ma filtered yung objectivity mo.

the next time dong make yourself clear,,your to afraid to be vulnerable w/ your "convictions"

[The_Child]

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Parang tama si sir fingolfin, na you just post for the sake of posting...

im confused w/ you sir

you seem to be intelligent pero you dont know how to "land" your thoughts
you know what i think- your intelligent,,your just haunted w/ your catholic blind devotion, so much so na ma filtered yung objectivity mo.

the next time dong make yourself clear,,your to afraid to be vulnerable w/ your "convictions"

conviction? as ive said, convictions are too vain. Convictions are worse than the truth, and those who dont follow that are either very principled which is quite a rarity these days, or are too human, all too human. hehehe.

[brownprose]

Who Are you?

Do you know who you really are?

Man, Know Thyself & Who Am I - What Does It Really Mean

The proverbial question - "Who am I?" ... is like asking "What is a self?" Both answerable in the purview of both metaphysics and scientific materialism. The metaphysical side or so Aristotle describes it as the "rational property of man" or the "substance" of the "thinking thing" to Descartes. Philosophers in the Middle Ages refines the human self to the specifics of being a "higher being" in the Great Chain of Being -- "lower than God and the angels; higher than the other animals. "

The dominant contemporary view of the self that is scientific materialism, understands the human self simply as an entity in nature that can be explained via the categories of contemporary natural science. Most versions of this scientific materialism are rightly regarded as reductionistic in character. The controversial Richard Dawkins provides an excellent example when he assures us that the self can be explained in terms of the evolution of the gene: “We are survival machines—robot vehicles, blindly programmed to preserve the selfish molecules known as genes.”

The alternative type of answer to the question “What is a self?” from a non-scientific and metaphysical way can be best characterized in “relational achievement theory” of Soren Keirkeegard or simply an achievement or a relational theory for short.

Keirkeegard attempts to say what a self is, not by describing a type of entity or specifying an entity that possesses certain natural properties, but rather by viewing the self in terms of its achievements ~ "The self-hood is an achievement, something one must become." In other words, you can only say who you really are for what you have made out your self.

I tend to agree with this (Keirkeegard's) alternative view.

[Egoist]

Who am I? I am the sum of all my experiences hehehe