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    Quote Originally Posted by vahnhelsing View Post
    ingon ani jud giingon sa bible bro... kadumdum ka atong nalangsang na Siya sa cruz
    basin ikaw to nag.ingon sa bible nya ni reincarnate ka...
    I mean how can Jesus saves you when you needed him most? Can Jesus saves you PRACTICALLY speaking when you are swimming in the flood "ONDOY"? The bible is not the issue here. The issue is how to save ourselves during emergency situations like bagyong "ONDOY"

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    1 Pet 4:11 (NRSV) Whoever speaks must do so as one speaking the very words of God; whoever serves must do so with the strength that God supplies, so that God may be glorified in all things through Jesus Christ. To him belong the glory and the power forever and ever. Amen.

    Eph 6:10 (NRSV) Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his power.

    God already provide us the wisdom and strength for the continuation of life and it's impending challenges, but at times when the impedement is very hard to overcome, we can seek his guidance and blessings in order to prevail, but still we are the one's who's doing it.

    Psa 46:1 (NRSV) God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    I mean how can Jesus saves you when you needed him most? Can Jesus saves you PRACTICALLY speaking when you are swimming in the flood "ONDOY"? The bible is not the issue here. The issue is how to save ourselves during emergency situations like bagyong "ONDOY"
    naa naman tanan facilities sa ato bro, kadto nga bagyo i believe gibaliwala lang sa mga taw ang bagyo thinking ng safe sila or wala sila nagtoo nga mahitabo ang ingon ato nga disaster... GOd will make a way but beyond na jud sa to reasoning ug mobuhat ba sya miracle sa ingon ato nga moment... if always nalang mohelp ang Ginoo bro, wla jud mangamatay.. walay cycle sa kalibutan... there's a reason i believe but this/our (maybe mine nalang) mind can not contain... ana ra..

  4. #454
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Why accept Jesus as your savior when you can only save yourself?

    Can your Jesus save you from the FLOOD "ONDOY" in Manila?

    Where is your Jesus when you needed him most?

    It is a cruel world and bad things happen, storms, floods, fire, waves, earthquakes, volcanoes, mudslides, sickness, diseases, and bad people. That is just facts of life. You live, bad things happen, and then you die; and if you get to smile and laugh sometimes then your life is better than some, because we were born to suffer. Who am I to think I am so special that I should be treated special?
    Jesus gives me strength to go on when my spirit feel broken and wants to quit, and gives my soul comfort in knowing that there is a better place awaiting me in the end. That is all I could or would expect or need from him.

    Everyone thinks they are worthy of miracles, they defy God constantly break his laws and commandments, refuse to help their fellow man, and act high-minded. Then when they are confronted with hardships, they believe they should just snap their fingers and God has to come save them because they deserve a miracle, and God is their puppet of convenience.

    What have you done for God? What have you done for Jesus? What do they owe you? I owe them everything, and they owe me nothing. I just prey for grace, and a good afterlife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    It is a cruel world and bad things happen, storms, floods, fire, waves, earthquakes, volcanoes, mudslides, sickness, diseases, and bad people. That is just facts of life. You live, bad things happen, and then you die; and if you get to smile and laugh sometimes then your life is better than some, because we were born to suffer. Who am I to think I am so special that I should be treated special?
    Jesus gives me strength to go on when my spirit feel broken and wants to quit, and gives my soul comfort in knowing that there is a better place awaiting me in the end. That is all I could or would expect or need from him.

    Everyone thinks they are worthy of miracles, they defy God constantly break his laws and commandments, refuse to help their fellow man, and act high-minded. Then when they are confronted with hardships, they believe they should just snap their fingers and God has to come save them because they deserve a miracle, and God is their puppet of convenience.

    What have you done for God? What have you done for Jesus? What do they owe you? I owe them everything, and they owe me nothing. I just prey for grace, and a good afterlife.
    Nice one James...you hit it in an honest way. I'm with you bro...

    God bless!

  6. #456
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    my goodness...drop your bible its doing you no good. wanna hear a story about children and old women being killed by the order of the biblical God?

    study your book dude...in my qur'an your destinaton is Hell. but as ive said worry not theosophy is more liberating.
    I will stick with my bible. I am not killing Children and old women.

    God never told me to kill someone. In fact Jesus instructs me to feed, cloth, and love my neighbor.

    I read my Bible and the old Testament is the same as in your Qur'an, we are both children of the book, but my Bible is missing the 102 War Verses in the Qur'an.

    The Qur'an does not offer you salvation, sorry but I read it. You only salvation is to kill Jews and Christians in Holly War, for you to be a good Muslim you are commanded to convert or kill to the ends of the Earth, so drop the false act and be truthful. What about the ostrosities commited by Ilamic expanshion on Christian communities throughout the World even as we speak. How dare you act as an self-righteous innocent victim. Very dishonest and one sided of you.

    That's OK in my Bible I am told to beware of False Prophets, and I already have salvation. We will see in the end. I am not judging you for I do not have the right to judge, but you have already been both judgmental and deceptive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    I will stick with my bible. I am not killing Children and old women.

    God never told me to kill someone. In fact Jesus instructs me to feed, cloth, and love my neighbor.

    I read my Bible and the old Testament is the same as in your Qur'an, we are both children of the book, but my Bible is missing the 102 War Verses in the Qur'an.

    The Qur'an does not offer you salvation, sorry but I read it. You only salvation is to kill Jews and Christians in Holly War, for you to be a good Muslim you are commanded to convert or kill to the ends of the Earth, so drop the false act and be truthful. What about the ostrosities commited by Ilamic expanshion on Christian communities throughout the World even as we speak. How dare you act as an self-righteous innocent victim. Very dishonest and one sided of you.

    That's OK in my Bible I am told to beware of False Prophets, and I already have salvation. We will see in the end. I am not judging you for I do not have the right to judge, but you have already been both judgmental and deceptive.
    my goodness your disappointment made you miss the point james. Your bible is missing the war verses in the Qur'an? well what else is left in you? you even skipped the verses found in the pentatuech. you don't want to hear it james? your God ordered Moses to kill those children.


    obviously the way you lay your miscalculated view of Salvation in Islam reflects the unchanged man in you. How terrible is that hate inside you.

    fair enough, the Qur'an also speaks of false christian, sorry according to my qur'an you are not saved. i am being judgemental and decpetive? haha, im just returning the favor back to you. Have a taste of your own pill james.

  8. #458
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    my goodness your disappointment made you miss the point james. Your bible is missing the war verses in the Qur'an? well what else is left in you? you even skipped the verses found in the pentatuech. you don't want to hear it james? your God ordered Moses to kill those children.


    obviously the way you lay your miscalculated view of Salvation in Islam reflects the unchanged man in you. How terrible is that hate inside you.

    fair enough, the Qur'an also speaks of false christian, sorry according to my qur'an you are not saved. i am being judgemental and decpetive? haha, im just returning the favor back to you. Have a taste of your own pill james.
    Well since you have never met me or the man I was before, and I would not conceive of hurting you personally. I have no hate within me, and such a remark was made I presume because I read the Qur'an and did not convert from a follower of Christ. I have Muslim friends and hold no ill will toward any Moslim. Even when good Muslim tried to kill me in Beirut 1983 trying to keep Israeli troop from killing every PLO member in the camps. Yes good Muslims tried to kill me for trying to protect Muslims fighters. The act if a common dog. My Savior tells me to love and forgive those good Muslims. Even those with the morals of a dog.

    I honestly think you have no real understanding of what a Christian is being such a heavy Catholic concentration here in the Philippines. I am from the American Bible belt which has few Catholic churches and different opinions and views on the interpretations of the Bible. There is a big difference between being Cathlic and being Christian, and even more so being Born Again. I also do not know if you are are even a true good example of a Muslim either. Seem a loose group of followers in the Philippines, the Taliban would beat every one of you death. They despise poor followers of Islam.

    I do believe the only reason for your post is to flame and see if you could get me angry, sorry too old and too confident in my belief to be provoked. I will help you to inflate you own ego. I read the Qur'an but I am sure you never read the Bible. I know that if you convert from Islam to Christianity it is considered a crime against Islam and is punishable by death. I know as a Muslim you know of Jesus and have relegated him to a minor prophet. So you have already rejected his teaching, and that you will have to deal with yourself.

    I just choose not too, I would rather suffer the first death and be spared the second death. Truth we pray to the same God, think about that. Muslims and Jews are the children of Abraham, and both pray to the God of Abraham. I choose to follow the teaching of love taught by the Son of God 2,000 years ago, and you choose to follow a Saudi war merchant from the 6th century.

    And the reason I did not mention the Pentateuch is because I am not Catholic, rather I am Born Again because I have no membership in man's corrupted organized world religions. I strictly follow the teachings of Christ. I being a Gentile am not bound by the Old Testament.

    I will stick it out with Jesus, and you can go stick it where ever you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Well since you have never met me or the man I was before, and I would not conceive of hurting you personally. I have no hate within me, and such a remark was made I presume because I read the Qur'an and did not convert from a follower of Christ. I have Muslim friends and hold no ill will toward any Moslim. Even when good Muslim tried to kill me in Beirut 1983 trying to keep Israeli troop from killing every PLO member in the camps. Yes good Muslims tried to kill me for trying to protect Muslims fighters. The act if a common dog. My Savior tells me to love and forgive those good Muslims. Even those with the morals of a dog.

    I honestly think you have no real understanding of what a Christian is. I also doubt you are a good example of a Muslim either. That the only reason for your post is to flame and to inflate you own ego. I read the Qur'an but I am sure you never read the Bible. I know that if you convert from Islam to Christianity it is concidered a crime against Islam and is punishable by death. I know as a Moslim you know of Jesus and have relegated him to a minor prophet. So you have already rejected his teaching, and that you will have to deal with yourself.

    I just choose not too, I would rather suffer the first death and be spared the second death. Truth we pray to the same God, think about that. Muslims and Jews are the children of Abraham, and both pray to the God of Abraham. I choose to follow the teaching of love taught by the Son of God 2,000 years ago, and you choose to follow a Saudi war merchant from the 6th century.

    I will stick it out with Jesus, and you can go stick it where ever you like.
    nice story james but sorry I don't buy it, you know why? inconsistency is spilling all over your statement.

    i have no idea what a christian is? oh I do. well james sorry to disappointment, my coming here had no pretense, you get what you see. unlike you, preaching and projecting that you are some kind of a good soul.

    i have never read the bible? i did. hey, fyi, there are arab christians. you don't know that? i wonder how far and deep really is your knowledge about Islam and the muslims?

    sure go ahead and follow the wild guy who whipped and turned the tables of the money changers inside the temple. hmm, according to you he is God, well then if he is god then he was responsible for the killing of the innocent children during Moses' time. you can't escape from this dilemma james. no matter how you want to portray your God is a peace loving dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    nice story james but sorry I don't buy it, you know why? inconsistency is spilling all over your statement.

    Please tell me my inconsistency?

    i have no idea what a christian is? oh I do. well james sorry to disappointment, my coming here had no pretense, you get what you see. unlike you, preaching and projecting that you are some kind of a good soul.

    I do not claim to be anything but a follower of Christ. A Born Again Christian. Only God can determine if I am a good soul, I just hold no hatred except to liers and deceivers.

    i have never read the bible? i did. hey, fyi, there are arab christians. you don't know that? i wonder how far and deep really is your knowledge about Islam and the muslims?

    So you use the term "My Kor'an" and now you claim to be Arab Christian? So you are Arab and not Filipino?

    sure go ahead and follow the wild guy who whipped and turned the tables of the money changers inside the temple. hmm, according to you he is God, well then if he is god then he was responsible for the killing of the innocent children during Moses' time. you can't escape from this dilemma james. no matter how you want to portray your God is a peace loving dude.

    Silly historical fact you are of the children of Abraham, part of the 12 tribes, so you ancestors would have been part of those doing the killing 1,300 years before Jesus was born. You ancestors at one time were Jews. So you are the very killers you are complaining about. How very strange. To hold others accountable for your ancestors sins.

    No according to me he is the Son of God who gave his life willingly so I can have salvation from his father. And so you know since you are so well versed in the Bible, Moses was dead over 1,300 years before Jesus was born. Your God is my God, so he is not a piece loving dude? I know his son Jesus did whip some guys one day who were disrespected his father's temple, wow I did not know that makes him some blood crazed killer capable of killing innocent children over 1,300 years before his birth.

    Sorry I will stick with the wild guy, because he tells me to live a good like, love, and forgive my neighbors. As instructed in the New Testament. And offers me salvation without having to kill innocent people on a buss with a bomb for it.

    Your Qur'an says you must convert me or kill me, and all who chooses not to follow Islam. And to put that bomb on the bus, Sorry you follow that book.

    If you are a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, are any other non-Muslim religion and have been told how Muslims are a "Peace Loving People", then I am sure they never tell you of the 164 Jihad War Verses in the Qur'an. And that Good Muslims are suppose to be following the Qur'an and that there is Jihad. You can read them for yourselves, because a Muslims never mentions them, even while following them. They must convert you or kill you. Yep, peace loving.
    "164 Jihad Verses in the Koran -- Passages in the Quran about Islamic Holy War" compiled by Yoel Natan

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