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  1. #1231

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    @Reg

    Tubaga usa ni beh palihug? ayaw usa pag sige ug post diha ug copy/paste..
    Unsa man diay akong reference kung dili ko mo refer sa authoritative source? TOINKS!

    Kana gani imong religion kay copy paste man gani na! hehehe

  2. #1232

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Of course to suffer is to have problems. Can you escape suffering here on earth? Earth is like purgatory and you dont have to go to puragatory aftter death in order to suffer, do you? hehehe

    Can you explain why those people who were born disabled and blind? Do you think that's an accident? Do you think when babies have deformities you can aLways explain scientifically? If you say its THE WILL OF GOD, then GOD must be joking for how can GOD create such people who are not equal if there is a GOD in the first place? That cannot be explained by your religion my friend!
    ahh okay.. and that can be explained by your fictional books my friend. cool!

  3. #1233

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Unsa man diay akong reference kung dili ko mo refer sa authoritative source? TOINKS!

    Kana gani imong religion kay copy paste man gani na! hehehe
    tubaga lagi na pina-agi sa imong kaugalingong paminsar.. nag sige kalang ug BY THE BOOK! by Prof./Dr. Bla bla bla... butangi pod intawn ug kanag personal experience jud nimo ba nga makaingon ta nga posible jud mahitabo to akong gipangbasa... sige kalang ug basa way experience kung posible ba mahitabo.. kataw-anan
    murag wala naman ka kalahi-an sa imong best pren nga si Pein by the bible imoha by prof/dr.

    hala tubaga to ang question ni existanz palihug...
    Last edited by necrotic freak; 09-26-2009 at 10:27 AM.

  4. #1234

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    There is only one way to know GOD's INFINITE JUSTICE and MERCY and that is through KARMA and REINCARNATION and not HELL which is an everlasting punishment which contradicts the INFINITE LOVE OF GOD!
    how did u know about this? through your readings? or your experiences? can u say that it is true by just your readings not by your experiences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    all the talks and stuff. bottomline---nobody knows crap what the heck would happen after someone dies. the only way to know is to die.

    The secret is how to die --- Zachary Solomon.
    That's correct!

  6. #1236

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Christian Reincarnation

    Scriptural support for reincarnation

    There are many Bible verses which are suggestive of reincarnation. One episode in particular from the healing miracles of Christ seems to point to reincarnation:

    "And as he was passing by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, 'Rabbi, who has sinned, this man or his parents, that he should be born blind?" Jesus answered, 'Neither has this man sinned, nor his parents, but the works of God were to be made manifest in him.'" (John 9:1)

    The disciples ask the Lord if the man himself could have committed the sin that led to his blindness. Given the fact that the man has been blind from birth, we are confronted with a provocative question. When could he have made such transgressions as to make him blind at birth? The only conceivable answer is in some prenatal state. The question as posed by the disciples explicitly presupposes prenatal existence. It will also be noted that Christ says nothing to dispel or correct the presupposition. Here is incontrovertible support for a doctrine of human preexistence.
    Also very suggestive of reincarnation is the episode where Jesus identifies John the Baptist as Elijah.

    "For all the prophets and the law have prophesied until John. And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who was to come." (Matthew 11:13-14)

    "And the disciples asked him, saying, 'Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?' But he answered them and said, 'Elijah indeed is to come and will restore all things. But I say to you that Elijah has come already, and they did not know him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also shall the Son of Man suffer at their hand.' Then the disciples understood that he had spoken of John the Baptist." (Matthew 17:10-13)

    Here again is a clear statement of preexistence. Despite the edict of the Emperor Justinian and the counter reaction to Origen, there is firm and explicit testimony for preexistence in both the Old and the New Testament. Indeed, the ban against Origen notwithstanding, contemporary Christian scholarship acknowledges preexistence as one of the elements of Judeo-Christian theology.
    As for the John the Baptist-Elijah episode, there can be little question as to its purpose. By identifying the Baptist as Elijah, Jesus is identifying himself as the Messiah. Throughout the gospel narrative there are explicit references to the signs that will precede the Messiah.

    Christian Reincarnation: The Long Forgotten Doctrine
    This Scriptural Support can be refuted because this is purely misinterpretation ....

    The Christian Reincarnation is long Lost Doctrine because it is not Acceptable since is Mystical and Heritical.

  7. #1237

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    It's quite fascinating to understand the concept of other religion, but putting it into practice is of another thing, I earnestly prefer to have my own........

  8. #1238

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    all the talks and stuff. bottomline---nobody knows crap what the heck would happen after someone dies. the only way to know is to die.

    The secret is how to die --- Zachary Solomon.
    HOW TO DIE? that's the big question, kinsa sab ganahan mamatay para lng makabalo kung tinood ba ang karma and reincarnation or dili? hehehe

    but how to die? is there really a way to do it while we are still alive to know all the truth? let's call it a temporary death. many of us heard that people who have died, gi check ug maayo sa doctors and declared dead and nabuhi ug balik, naa gyud ikasulti sa ilang experiences while namatay cla, it seems they are enlightened on somethings. and then later on, d na magsaba sa ilang na experiences, y man kaha? lisod baya ni tuhuan d ba, pero musulti gyud nga mao na ila na experiences. so we can say, na experience na nila ky namatay ilang physical body ug ang soul mao nag naglihok.

    kita man gud tanan, compose of body and soul, so meaning, bisag asa ka muadto, we have 2 personalities, the body and the soul. mura btaw ug ship, nga duha ang captains, kung nagmata ta, of course, it is our body that is the captain of the ship, and if we sleep, it is the soul, have you not experienced nga sometimes, murag naa btaw conscience nga mo bother nmo if let's say sayop imong mabuhat or padung ka ug buhat ug sayop, mao na ang soul nato, if that's the case, we can say nga the soul knows everything except lng nga it's our body ang captain sa ship or nag control sa atong mga hunahuna, words, and actions.

    so what if kung ang soul nato ang magdala, possible nga makabalo ta if K&R is true or not, possible nga dli na ta mabuhat ug sayop, since soul is the same as God, gamay lng nga portion, we can call it god (small g), you will have similar powers as God, you will think, say, and act like God dba? after all, everthing is created by God.

    Now, through death, meaning, wa na ang physical body, makalihok na sab ang soul, pero kinsa man sab ganahan dba? or how about temporary death? So we can temporily have the soul as the captain of the ship, murag cyag imong gpukaw ang soul ug gpakatulog ang body. so temporily, u will know everything, u will know if K&R is true, and more mysteries and imong mahibaw-an.

    Unsaon man pag temporary death para ang soul ma awaken and the body is put to sleep? through MEDITATION. Sa meditation, you will be trying to put your body to rest (or let's say, murag patay) and you are trying to awaken your soul by thinking and feeling all the positivities. d ba ang soul is similar as God, so meaning to awaken it is to think and feel all the positivities. When the soul is awaken, naa na dha tanan apil ang K&R. And best of all, when you try to meditate and learn the truth, for sure, d na ka musaba kung tinood ba or dili ang K&R, ug d na sab ka musaba ug unsa imong nahibaw-an. Knowing the TRUTH is through experience and practice and not by the books or web site nga na read or sulti sa mga tawo. You really have to work for it by meditation. There are some other ways, but I think meditation is the easiest one.

    There are many meditation techniques, pero the best technique is kanang dli sa books gkan, but gkan sa mga cosmic masters nga naka experience na ug maayo, katong naay Cosmic Consciousness, meaning same consciousness as God, meaning nakabalo na cla tanan, pero ang tug-anan ang students ra pud nila which they will know kung ready na ba or dli. Kung kita ta ug meditaton technique sa books or sa internet, we don't know if is authentic or not, or let's say we know the author and assume that is authentic, ang problem is are we ready to practice it?

  9. #1239

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    HOW TO DIE? that's the big question, kinsa sab ganahan mamatay para lng makabalo kung tinood ba ang karma and reincarnation or dili? hehehe

    but how to die? is there really a way to do it while we are still alive to know all the truth? let's call it a temporary death. many of us heard that people who have died, gi check ug maayo sa doctors and declared dead and nabuhi ug balik, naa gyud ikasulti sa ilang experiences while namatay cla, it seems they are enlightened on somethings. and then later on, d na magsaba sa ilang na experiences, y man kaha? lisod baya ni tuhuan d ba, pero musulti gyud nga mao na ila na experiences. so we can say, na experience na nila ky namatay ilang physical body ug ang soul mao nag naglihok.

    kita man gud tanan, compose of body and soul, so meaning, bisag asa ka muadto, we have 2 personalities, the body and the soul. mura btaw ug ship, nga duha ang captains, kung nagmata ta, of course, it is our body that is the captain of the ship, and if we sleep, it is the soul, have you not experienced nga sometimes, murag naa btaw conscience nga mo bother nmo if let's say sayop imong mabuhat or padung ka ug buhat ug sayop, mao na ang soul nato, if that's the case, we can say nga the soul knows everything except lng nga it's our body ang captain sa ship or nag control sa atong mga hunahuna, words, and actions.

    so what if kung ang soul nato ang magdala, possible nga makabalo ta if K&R is true or not, possible nga dli na ta mabuhat ug sayop, since soul is the same as God, gamay lng nga portion, we can call it god (small g), you will have similar powers as God, you will think, say, and act like God dba? after all, everthing is created by God.

    Now, through death, meaning, wa na ang physical body, makalihok na sab ang soul, pero kinsa man sab ganahan dba? or how about temporary death? So we can temporily have the soul as the captain of the ship, murag cyag imong gpukaw ang soul ug gpakatulog ang body. so temporily, u will know everything, u will know if K&R is true, and more mysteries and imong mahibaw-an.

    Unsaon man pag temporary death para ang soul ma awaken and the body is put to sleep? through MEDITATION. Sa meditation, you will be trying to put your body to rest (or let's say, murag patay) and you are trying to awaken your soul by thinking and feeling all the positivities. d ba ang soul is similar as God, so meaning to awaken it is to think and feel all the positivities. When the soul is awaken, naa na dha tanan apil ang K&R. And best of all, when you try to meditate and learn the truth, for sure, d na ka musaba kung tinood ba or dili ang K&R, ug d na sab ka musaba ug unsa imong nahibaw-an. Knowing the TRUTH is through experience and practice and not by the books or web site nga na read or sulti sa mga tawo. You really have to work for it by meditation. There are some other ways, but I think meditation is the easiest one.

    There are many meditation techniques, pero the best technique is kanang dli sa books gkan, but gkan sa mga cosmic masters nga naka experience na ug maayo, katong naay Cosmic Consciousness, meaning same consciousness as God, meaning nakabalo na cla tanan, pero ang tug-anan ang students ra pud nila which they will know kung ready na ba or dli. Kung kita ta ug meditaton technique sa books or sa internet, we don't know if is authentic or not, or let's say we know the author and assume that is authentic, ang problem is are we ready to practice it?

    try experience temporary death by meditating let's say for 5 minutes lng, let your soul awaken, by thinking and feeling all the positive in you, feeling love, compassion, peace, kindness and harmony in you and you will feel relaxed, happy and full of peace of mind, the longer you do it, the longer your soul is awaken, the better, meditation is with eyes close, sitting position and fully relaxed. classical or instrumental music can also help with your concentration.

  10. #1240

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    try experience temporary death by meditating let's say for 5 minutes lng, let your soul awaken, by thinking and feeling all the positive in you, feeling love, compassion, peace, kindness and harmony in you and you will feel relaxed, happy and full of peace of mind, the longer you do it, the longer your soul is awaken, the better, meditation is with eyes close, sitting position and fully relaxed. classical or instrumental music can also help with your concentration.

    always keep in your mind that the REAL YOU, is not your body, it is YOUR SOUL! LET YOUR SOUL BE THE CAPTAIN OF YOURSELVES! If all of us think this way, then there is a complete harmony in the Philippines and in the world, no more poverty, peace and love will rule the universe!

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