Evolution is now A FACT OF LIFE

[Pein]

That's a very good question pien and is also the most common question that arise from the example.l
Germs/bacteria are commonly unicellular and their DNA are much exposed to mutagens. And they, in fact, "speciate" in a form of new strains. There is also solid evidence that bacteria can evolve into a new specie read this: Bacteria make major evolutionary shift in the lab - life - 09 June 2008 - New Scientist

Unlike in unicellular organisms (as bacteria), multicellular organisms like animals and humans evolve at a slower rate simply because their DNA is buried under each cell's nucleus. But that's just one part of it pien as far as humans or higher organisms are concerned. As I have said evolution takes several other processes aside from exposure to mutagens. Adaptation Genetic drift > Gene flow > Mutation > Natural selection > Speciation. If you want to know more about their systematics I will explain it as simply as I can

kung ang human beings keeps on evolving, wala paman lagi ta mu evolve into something else hangtod karon nga millions of years naman unta ang niagi since pag emerge sa modern human. millions of years naman unta ang nilabay nganong hangtod karon human raman gihapon wala man mu evolve into another specie?

siguro lagi sa field of microbiology, pwede ma apply ang evolution PERO DILI SA TANANG LIVING ORGANISM. kay naay mga living organisms nga wala pa gihapon mu evolve hangtod karon millions of years naman unta ang nilabay.

Living Fossils

Since 1822 thousands of previously unknown animals have been found, many of which are known as "living fossils" - animals that once known only by its fossilized bones and presumed to have been extinct for millions of years and used as "proof" of evolution. But then, to the embarrassment of scientists, these animals were later found to be alive in remote parts of the world.

Charles Darwin, himself, coined this term. In the Origin of Species he called lungfish and other species whose form remained unchanged since its inception "anomalous forms" that "may almost be called living fossils."

Living fossils are living proof of the accuracy with which plants and animals reproduce themselves and the fact that many are not changing at all.

The Okapi was once thought to have been extinct until they were found still living. These animals were once used as evidence that the horse had evolved.

Living Coelacanths

The Australian and African lungfish are . . . living fossils. They all look "primitive" and have lobed fins. Obviously lungfish can't be our ancestors because they have remain unchanged, again for 400 million years [ET*]. Another animal, the horseshoe crab, would be a great candidate for our ancestor. It looks "primitive" and leaves the ocean to spawn on dry land. However, it, too, is a living fossil, appearing about 425 million years ago [ET*] in the Silurian period, and remaining unchanged.

Similarly, gars, sturgeons, bowfins, and paddlefish all look "primitive" but are living fossils. Yet they are doing nicely in today's environment.

IN 1994. in Wollemi National Park (in the Blue Mountains) the New South Wales National Parks and Wildlife Services found a pine tree once thought to be extinct. They are close relations to plants only found in the so called "Jurassic and Cretaceous" periods. (65-200 million years ago [ET*]). There are very few of these trees left in an isolated area.

The following aquatic animals alive today are also examples of creatures that have not evolved since their fossil ancestors:- lobsters, crayfish and rays (fossils found in Jurassic rock), lampshells, mussels oysters, thumb nail shells (fossils found in Carboniferous rock), sharks (fossilized teeth found in Devonian rock), mackerel, perch, herring, jelly fish, fogs, the nautilus etc.

Of the 12,000 fossilized insects the majority are similar to living types of insect found today.

The fossils of bees, ants, cicadas, beetles, termites or cockroaches, and other insects are always practically identical with (though often larger than) their modern descendants. The same applies to the arachnids and myriapods.

Other famous living fossils include the tuatara (supposedly extinct since the Cretaceous Period until found still living in New Zealand), the Lepidocaris crustacean (only found as fossils in Devonian rocks), the lingula brachiopod ("extinct" since the Ordovician), and even the trilobite (chief index fossil of the even more ancient Cambrian Period).

If all of these species have not evolved in 50 million [ET*], 100 million [ET*] or even 200 million [ET*] years, then why should we believe that they (or anything) have evolved? Some changes due to speciation have occurred, but not the large scale changes that evolution supposes.

The list goes on; example after example of no change from one type of animal to another in the fossil record. Darwin tried to cover over this embarrassment by saying the fossil record is incomplete, but it wasn't then and it's not now. What we know about living fossils, then and now, is a representative sample of the fossil record.

Living Fossils

[tripwire]

kung ang human beings keeps on evolving, wala paman lagi ta mu evolve into something else hangtod karon nga millions of years naman unta ang niagi since pag emerge sa modern human. millions of years naman unta ang nilabay nganong hangtod karon human raman gihapon wala man mu evolve into another specie?

Kita ka anang mga athletes pein? I don’t think during the era of Christ they can run as fast as Michael Bolt. Basketball players that grows taller from the average man. Intellectual evolution… people will change eventually… you may not see it in our time but it will definitely change in the future. But if your argumentation is still human lang gihapon, that’s a limited understanding pein. Soon our fingers will come to change from 5 to 4 to 3, the pinky and ring fingers sometimes don’t have use. Grab a can or bottle of soda with those three fingers [thumb, pointer and middle fingers] dib a you can still hold them in proper grips. I’m not saying that we will become freaks but in that distant future, change is inevitable.

siguro lagi sa field of microbiology, pwede ma apply ang evolution PERO DILI SA TANANG LIVING ORGANISM. kay naay mga living organisms nga wala pa gihapon mu evolve hangtod karon millions of years naman unta ang nilabay.

Kindly enumerate kuno ang dili tanang living organism ma apply ang evolution? Pein, when there is life there is change [evolution].

[bluedes]

giunsa man lagi pag conclude nila nga ang invertibrates ni evolve into vertibrates? dis a sila kuha sa ilang basis kung wala man gani sila nakakita sa actual change through experimentation? Remember the basic Scientific Method. una observation, hypothesis, experimentation, conclusion. giunsa man ninyo pag conclude kung kutob ramo sa observation sa mga fossil records?

kapila na ka gitubag ani bro.. look at a phylogenetic tree..

unya parter-i dayon na ug simulated evolution experiments like that of Dr. Lenski's..

[Pein]

kapila na ka gitubag ani bro.. look at a phylogenetic tree..

unya parter-i dayon na ug simulated evolution experiments like that of Dr. Lenski's..

They still could not create life even if all the molecules were put in their hands

The real aim of the article in Scientific American was to offer an explanation of how nucleotides and proteins, the building blocks of life might have formed spontaneously and by chance, a subject that Darwinists insist on espousing, albeit utterly hopelessly. Throughout the article the magazine revealed that NOT EVEN highly intelligent, educated, Nobel Prize-winning professors conducting experiments using the most advanced technology in their laboratories ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE THESE MOLECULES, which is one of the greatest dilemmas facing the theory of evolution. To expect molecules that cannot be manufactured under laboratory conditions using all kinds of advanced technology and knowledge and with the conscious intervention of intelligent human beings, to form under natural conditions under the effects of rain, lightning, ultraviolet rays and lava melting down from volcanoes is a terrible violation of reason and logic.

Moreover, even if Darwinists did manufacture these molecules, that still would not save the theory of evolution. They could have an ocean-full of already existing proteins, but they would still never be able to produce life. They could even take a living cell and extract all the organelles and components that make it up. They could have all the elements necessary for life ready to hand. They could even have the requisite left-handed amino acids and whatever else they needed in whatever amounts required. And Darwinist professors could use all these materials extracted from the cell in whatever way they wanted. They could expose them to whatsoever mutations they chose, heat them up, apply electric currents to them, subject them to ultraviolet rays, shake them up, freeze and thaw them out again and stand watch over the mixture for billions of years if they so wished, bequeathing it from one generation to the next. But they will never be able to manufacture life, or even a single cell, from these ready materials. They can never reconstruct the extraordinarily complex factory inside the cell. It is obvious that unconscious nature can never do what scientists with such technology and consciousness cannot achieve.

Darwinism-Watch.com

unsay masulti nimo ani bluedes? naka create namo ug life nga gikan sa proteins ug ammino acids?

[Pein]

Kita ka anang mga athletes pein? I don’t think during the era of Christ they can run as fast as Michael Bolt. Basketball players that grows taller from the average man. Intellectual evolution… people will change eventually… you may not see it in our time but it will definitely change in the future. But if your argumentation is still human lang gihapon, that’s a limited understanding pein. Soon our fingers will come to change from 5 to 4 to 3, the pinky and ring fingers sometimes don’t have use. Grab a can or bottle of soda with those three fingers [thumb, pointer and middle fingers] dib a you can still hold them in proper grips. I’m not saying that we will become freaks but in that distant future, change is inevitable.


Kindly enumerate kuno ang dili tanang living organism ma apply ang evolution? Pein, when there is life there is change [evolution].

asa raman lagi ang change nganong human raman gihapon nga pila naman unta ka million years ang nilabay...angay unta ni evolve nata karon nganong wala paman lagi?

example? kani oh...



wala man lagi na mu evolve pila ka millions of years naman unta na nga specie...

[chad_tukes]

Kita ka anang mga athletes pein? I don’t think during the era of Christ they can run as fast as Michael Bolt. Basketball players that grows taller from the average man. Intellectual evolution… people will change eventually… you may not see it in our time but it will definitely change in the future. But if your argumentation is still human lang gihapon, that’s a limited understanding pein. Soon our fingers will come to change from 5 to 4 to 3, the pinky and ring fingers sometimes don’t have use. Grab a can or bottle of soda with those three fingers [thumb, pointer and middle fingers] dib a you can still hold them in proper grips. I’m not saying that we will become freaks but in that distant future, change is inevitable.

tinuod bitaw ng evolution. example: naay taw atong unang panahon, makabuhi ug patay, ang usa ka isda pwede niya padaghanon, makalakaw pa gyud sa tubig. pero karon panahona, mahuman na lang siguro ang kalibutan, di gyud ka kitag ingana nga superhuman. so tinuod gyud diay ning EVOLUTION.

[bluedes]

They still could not create life even if all the molecules were put in their hands

The real aim of the article in Scientific American was to offer an explanation of how nucleotides and proteins, the building blocks of life might have formed spontaneously and by chance, a subject that Darwinists insist on espousing, albeit utterly hopelessly. Throughout the article the magazine revealed that NOT EVEN highly intelligent, educated, Nobel Prize-winning professors conducting experiments using the most advanced technology in their laboratories ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE THESE MOLECULES, which is one of the greatest dilemmas facing the theory of evolution. To expect molecules that cannot be manufactured under laboratory conditions using all kinds of advanced technology and knowledge and with the conscious intervention of intelligent human beings, to form under natural conditions under the effects of rain, lightning, ultraviolet rays and lava melting down from volcanoes is a terrible violation of reason and logic.

Moreover, even if Darwinists did manufacture these molecules, that still would not save the theory of evolution. They could have an ocean-full of already existing proteins, but they would still never be able to produce life. They could even take a living cell and extract all the organelles and components that make it up. They could have all the elements necessary for life ready to hand. They could even have the requisite left-handed amino acids and whatever else they needed in whatever amounts required. And Darwinist professors could use all these materials extracted from the cell in whatever way they wanted. They could expose them to whatsoever mutations they chose, heat them up, apply electric currents to them, subject them to ultraviolet rays, shake them up, freeze and thaw them out again and stand watch over the mixture for billions of years if they so wished, bequeathing it from one generation to the next. But they will never be able to manufacture life, or even a single cell, from these ready materials. They can never reconstruct the extraordinarily complex factory inside the cell. It is obvious that unconscious nature can never do what scientists with such technology and consciousness cannot achieve.

Darwinism-Watch.com

unsay masulti nimo ani bluedes? naka create namo ug life nga gikan sa proteins ug ammino acids?

actually, this has already been shown.. surprisingly, mao jud ni among gidiscuss ganina.. how proteins fold.. and they do randomly.. when a protein gets stuck at folding after it exits the ribosome, an enzyme will come along and unfold it a bit so that it can try again to fold in a correct manner for its particular function..

life is very difficult to manufacture.. its very complex.. but its very beautiful.. and with our current science and technology nowadays, i have no doubt we will be able to unlock the secrets of life soon.. only time will tell.. brace yourself when that happens pein..

[Pein]

actually, this has already been shown.. surprisingly, mao jud ni among gidiscuss ganina.. how proteins fold.. and they do randomly.. when a protein gets stuck at folding after it exits the ribosome, an enzyme will come along and unfold it a bit so that it can try again to fold in a correct manner for its particular function..

life is very difficult to manufacture.. its very complex.. but its very beautiful.. and with our current science and technology nowadays, i have no doubt we will be able to unlock the secrets of life soon.. only time will tell.. brace yourself when that happens pein..

so you admit wala pa jud diay moy na produce nga life gikan sa mga molecules? so theory pa lagi nang evolution dili pa jud na pwedeng matawag ug FACT kay wala paman jud kaha mo naka produce ug life from ang single protein through experimentation. theory ramo kutob bro so ayaw sa ug conclude...muambak man lagi mo dayon...

cge maghuwat ko ana kanus a pa kaha na mahitabo...i hope sooner...

[Pein]

unsay masulti ninyo aning mga living fossils nga pila na ka million ka tuig ang nilabay pero hangtod karon wala gihapon mu evolve?

Living-Fossils.com

hmmmmm....

[tripwire]

pein, do you know what fossils mean?