Karma and Reincarnation.

[Tirong-say]

According to Fr. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, SJ in his book, "The Phenomenon of Man" Each one of us is an ALPHA destined for OMEGA meaning when we realize our CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS or GOD CONSCIOUSNESS for that matter, there is only ONE SOURCE we go back and return to GOD who is ALL IN ALL and you might want to call it HEAVEN (PURE ETERNAL STATE OF GOD CONSCIOUSNESS)!

Okay Thanks for the reply
So asking forgiveness from GOD and to any person that one is indebted with a sin could resolve ones karma?

[Existanz]

I understand.

And the good thing is that ESOTERIC CHRISTIANITY also speaks about STAGES of PERFECTION of the SOUL just what like the mystic, St. Theresa of Avila said in her classic book "The Interior castle" and St. John of The Cross in "The Dark Night of The Soul."

Don't take this badly Reg, with due respect to your belief, why there persists a mis-conception about Esoteric or Mysticism kind of christianity (I assumed you're still a Christian or are you?) that 'they' seem to make it sounds like you're doing something evil or as if you're dancing with the devil...what's behind this mis-perception?

Frankly I don't care what you are doing...it's just that this is what I seem to read at all times whenever I came upon certain Christian articles that attempts to refute this 'way' of understanding or practice of belief?

[Pein]

So, would you say that you can perfect yourself in this lifetime or si bro eli nakaperfect na in this lifetime based sa bible?

oo. pwede ka ma perfect sa usa ka lifetime...

[regnauld]

Okay Thanks for the reply
So asking forgiveness from GOD and to any person that one is indebted with a sin could resolve ones karma?

Asking forgiveness alone is not enough it should be balanced with ACTON as part of the DEBT or REPAYMENT so that everything will be resolved. It is just like when one commits a murder, one does not only ask for forgiveness but rather he should be punished by the law of the land like serving his sentence in a prison cell to resolve everything. In RC it is called PENANCE!

[Existanz]

Yes...The Kingdom of GOD is within, that WE ARE ONE WITH GOD and that is our nature and essence created in the image and likeness of GOD!

The fruits? UNIVERSAL VALUES such as Universal Brotherhood, Peace, Justice, Tolerance, Respect, and LOVE of humanity regardless of religion or creed!

I think both sides will agree with this ideas...but what the heck! it seems to me nobody's doing them anyway! all we see is endless bickering and thumbing down with this and that...what a sad sad world...

[bluedes]

Don't take this badly Reg, with due respect to your belief, why there persists a mis-conception about Esoteric or Mysticism kind of christianity (I assumed you're still a Christian or are you?) that 'they' seem to make it sounds like you're doing something evil or as if you're dancing with the devil...what's behind this mis-perception?

Frankly I don't care what you are doing...it's just that this is what I seem to read at all times whenever I came upon certain Christian articles that attempts to refute this 'way' of understanding or practice of belief?

this is what i dont like about certain so-called "Christian" groups.. because of an attachment to such dogmas, then a prejudice arises..

then, any religious organization seeks to maintain its political structure, and these "alternate" understanding is like a threat to their organization.. a threat that has the potential to diminish the members of its group. Theosophy does not really care about the numbers of its group membership..

an entity will only attack if it feels threatened..

[Tirong-say]

Asking forgiveness alone is not enough it should be balanced with ACTON as part of the DEBT or REPAYMENT so that everything will be resolved. It is just like when one commits a murder, one does not only ask for forgiveness but rather he should be punished by the law of the land like serving his sentence in a prison cell to resolve everything. In RC it is called PENANCE!

Okay, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge Sir Reg
thanks for the reply and your time as well.....

[Pein]

daghan pud ug gods ang gisimba sa mga theosophist?

Hindu Gods -- the 330 Million Gods of India

hmmmmm...

[regnauld]

Don't take this badly Reg, with due respect to your belief, why there persists a mis-conception about Esoteric or Mysticism kind of christianity (I assumed you're still a Christian or are you?) that 'they' seem to make it sounds like you're doing something evil or as if you're dancing with the devil...what's behind this mis-perception?

Frankly I don't care what you are doing...it's just that this is what I seem to read at all times whenever I came upon certain Christian articles that attempts to refute this 'way' of understanding or practice of belief?

I understand.

That is expected already especially if one is studying ESOTERIC WISDOM. Some people like Christians don't really know and understand about MYSTICISM and OCCULT SCIENCE. They just make harsh judgment without even attempting to investigate what the SEEKERS are actually studying. There is no EVIL PRACTICES involved. We are just there to STUDY as what Jesus said, SEEK and YOU SHALL FIND. In Seeking, we are constantly studying and reflecting.

In theosophy, there 3 general practices that we choose to do:

1. Study and Reflection (Philosophy, Science and Comparative Religion), 2. Silence and Meditation 3. Service to Humanity!

I hope this will enlighten you!

[regnauld]

Okay, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge Sir Reg
thanks for the reply and your time as well.....

Your welcome bro!

God Bless!