Karma and Reincarnation.

[Existanz]

well, i never heard what "perfect karma" is. Karma means action.

Ah..okay I'm admit I'm less educated with Karmic principle. So tell me, in K&R universe, what it is the reason(s) why souls are to be incarnated in the world in the first place?

[regnauld]

Mat 14:14 And he came forth, and saw a great multitude, and he had compassion on them, and healed their sick.

Wala lagi diri about reincarnation Reg?

Read the context and do not read the word reincarnation word for word coz thats how to study the bible properly!

[regnauld]

Reg, kadto ba'ng mga 6 million Jews nga gi-ihaw ni Aryan Boy Hitler, buot pasabot tungod to sa mga bad karma sa 6-million Jews nga victims? How about to'ng 21% sa population sa Cambodia nga gi-execute ni Pol Pot, buot ba pasabot nga tungod to sa bad karma sa mga victims?

Also, assuming nga mi-reincarnate na ni sila Hitler ug Pol Pot unsa man ila life forms ron? Tao ra gapon sila? If yes, sa unsang paagi ka maka-ingon nga nag-serve na sila ron sa ilang karma?

They will reincarnate for sure and they have to pay for their karmic debts as Jesus said, What you sow so shall you reap (KARMA).

Yes tawo ra gihapon sila and we don't know where they are right now and maybe they are suffering right now for the remission of their previous karma (BAd Karma)

[regnauld]

Heb 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this cometh judgment...

Regarding Judgment:

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.

Well, in that verse on mat. 25:46 is not a literal translation according to bible scholars but rather a symbolic one.

[Existanz]

Read the context and do not read the word reincarnation word for word coz thats how to study the bible properly!

And that this is not a metaphor is proven by the very words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 14:14 <--- your implication.

Mat 14:14 And he came forth, and saw a great multitude, and he had compassion on them, and healed their sick.

No metaphor you said here di ba?

[Existanz]

Well, in that verse on mat. 25:46 is not a literal translation according to bible scholars but rather a symbolic one.

Ah okay...symbolic in what sense?

[regnauld]

Ah okay...symbolic in what sense?

Symbolic in its meaning like a METAPHOR!

Just like Jesus. He always speak in PARABLES!

[regnauld]

Mat 14:14 And he came forth, and saw a great multitude, and he had compassion on them, and healed their sick.

No metaphor you said here di ba?

Yes no metaphor there and yet Reincarnation was not disproven!

[regnauld]

Christian Reincarnation

The Lincoln and Kennedy Connection

According to reincarnation beliefs, history tends to repeat itself until those who have participated in it learn their lessons and change for the better. This means that an individual may face identical situations from one life to the next until they are able to conquer whatever "cause and effect" chain-reaction they have caused from a previous life. As an example, a person who "lives by the sword" in one life and dies without having made amends for his mistakes, will in the next life be faced with identical situations which must be overcome. Ultimately, such a person will have to face themselves and have inflicted upon them everything they have inflicted upon others. Divine justice in many religions shows that those who "live by the sword" will "die by the sword", if not in their present life, but likely in a future life. Reincarnation theory states that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

The lives of President Kennedy and President Lincoln had so many parallels that it cannot be dismissed as pure coincidence. To my mind, these parallels are evidence of history repeating itself and evidence of reincarnation. To me, these parallels may be circumstantial evidence that President Kennedy was the reincarnation of President Lincoln. You decide for yourself.

Both were elected to Congress in ‘46. Both were elected President in ‘60. Both had the legality of their elections contested. Both were directly involved with black civil rights. Both lost a son while serving as President. Both were killed while serving as President.

Lincoln's staffer, whose name was Kennedy, advised him not to go to the theater. Kennedy's secretary, whose name was Lincoln, advised him not to go to Dallas. Lincoln was fond of Monroe, Maryland (He had visited it a week before he was shot). Kennedy was fond of Marilyn Monroe.
Both were shot on a Friday. Both were shot in the head from behind. Both were shot in the presence of their wives. Both were shot while sitting with another couple.

Both were shot with another member of their entourage being injured, but not fatally. Lincoln was shot in Ford's Theater. Kennedy was shot in a Ford Lincoln.
Both assassins were born in ‘39. Both were Southerners favoring extremist views. Both are known by their first, middle and last names. Booth ran from the theater and was captured in a warehouse. Oswald ran from the warehouse and was captured in a theater. Both were themselves assassinated before their trials.
Both President’s successors were Southern Democrats. Both successors had the last name of Johnson. Both successors were Vice-Presidents. Both successors were born in ‘08. Both successors were former senators.

Both President’s caskets were carried in death on the same caisson.
It appears that history does indeed repeat itself. Perhaps it is the same cast of characters playing the same roles over and over again. I think William Shakespeare was right all along: All the world is a stage and we are but the players.

Christian Reincarnation: The Long Forgotten Doctrine

Question to those who don't believe in Reincarnation:

How would you EXPLAIN the above phenomenon if there was no reincarnation?

[Existanz]

They will reincarnate for sure and they have to pay for their karmic debts as Jesus said, What you sow so shall you reap (KARMA).

Yes tawo ra gihapon sila and we don't know where they are right now and maybe they are suffering right now for the remission of their previous karma (BAd Karma)

What suffering would you think they suffering now that is appropriate to the evil things they had done in their previous life..in the case of Hitler the extermination of 6-million Jews or Pol Pots 1 million plus execution?