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    Ask lang ko :

    1. In K&R world view, what constitute an evil or good deeds in animals, plants or insects so that they will serves us cause and effect to either move or down in the level of karmic existence?

    2. If for example ha, kining eagle will kil a rat so that it's chicks have something for dinner, does this constitute an increase of bad karma for the brooding eagle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    ako mahadlok sukit sukiton nimo? bwahahaha. tugpa pod panagsa.

    basaha lagi nya balik diri kay mag lantugi ta.

    ang mga tao diri pagtoo nimo gikuyawan nimo? hahahaha, tugpa pod oi.
    ngano man diay gud ug mutubag ka sa pangutana mas nindot man jud nang maggikan from the horse's mouth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Ask lang ko :

    1. In K&R world view, what constitute an evil or good deeds in animals, plants or insects so that they will serves us cause and effect to either move or down in the level of karmic existence?

    2. If for example ha, kining eagle will kil a rat so that it's chicks have something for dinner, does this constitute an increase of bad karma for the brooding eagle?
    Karma works only for people.

    Animals don't have karma.

    But if people abuse animals or plants they will suffer the wrath of nature.

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    Whether you believe in Reincarnation or not, it doesn't matter you will still reincarnate! - Buddhist Monk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Doctor View Post
    Karma works only for people.

    Animals don't have karma.

    But if people abuse animals or plants they will suffer the wrath of nature.
    Di ba Doc for example ha, pag-sobra ka kabulastug ang usa ka tao karon buhi pa cya unya sometime later namatay siya samtang nag-holdap kay na-corner sa mga polis, nakig shot-out siya- dead on the spot. Correct me if I'm mistaken, mu-reincarnate cya in lower life form as consequence of his too much bad karma accumulation in his previous life...di ba in reincarnation niya lower life form siya- animals or perhaps insect ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Whether you believe in Reincarnation or not, it doesn't matter you will still reincarnate! - Buddhist Monk
    I like that so much to be true...kay sa christian world view medyo extreme ang atong madangatan- Hell. If reincarnation is true, asking too many questions about karma and reincarnation can cause bad karma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Ask lang ko :

    1. In K&R world view, what constitute an evil or good deeds in animals, plants or insects so that they will serves us cause and effect to either move or down in the level of karmic existence?

    2. If for example ha, kining eagle will kil a rat so that it's chicks have something for dinner, does this constitute an increase of bad karma for the brooding eagle?
    as soul doctor has replied, animals and plants dont have karma, because they dont have free will.. free will is what determines our karma as humans.. from the bible, humans are created in the image of god, and because of that, we also contain free will as a residue of the infinite being..

    eagle kill chicks because it is their nature.. it is karma-less action.. humans on the other hand, because by virtue of free will, we choose to kill to eat.. you can't tell an eagle to stop and think about not killing the rat.. they don't have free will.. its all automatic for them because it is their nature.. walay conscience ang eagle or other animals, they just do what they are programmed to do in their nature.. that is different with humans..

    the significant border differentiating karma and karma-less actions in humans is suspicion or doubt on what you are doing.. when you stop to think about it, then that action will definitely produce some karma.. if you do it intuitively, like automatic na, then it will be karma-less.. the basis behind this is because of your ego. when we do things without thinking what it will do to us (our ego) we are committing an action that is ego-less, therefore it is karma-less.


    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Di ba Doc for example ha, pag-sobra ka kabulastug ang usa ka tao karon buhi pa cya unya sometime later namatay siya samtang nag-holdap kay na-corner sa mga polis, nakig shot-out siya- dead on the spot. Correct me if I'm mistaken, mu-reincarnate cya in lower life form as consequence of his too much bad karma accumulation in his previous life...di ba in reincarnation niya lower life form siya- animals or perhaps insect ba?
    dili man pwede mu-reincarnate to a lesser life form.. that would invalidate the purpose of evolution.. how can someone of higher evolution resolve his karma when limited by faculties in a lesser life form? i forgot the text, but this is also stated in the secret doctrine by HPB. ask flying fish..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    as soul doctor has replied, animals and plants dont have karma, because they dont have free will.. free will is what determines our karma as humans.. from the bible, humans are created in the image of god, and because of that, we also contain free will as a residue of the infinite being..

    eagle kill chicks because it is their nature.. it is karma-less action.. humans on the other hand, because by virtue of free will, we choose to kill to eat.. you can't tell an eagle to stop and think about not killing the rat.. they don't have free will.. its all automatic for them because it is their nature.. walay conscience ang eagle or other animals, they just do what they are programmed to do in their nature.. that is different with humans..

    the significant border differentiating karma and karma-less actions in humans is suspicion or doubt on what you are doing.. when you stop to think about it, then that action will definitely produce some karma.. if you do it intuitively, like automatic na, then it will be karma-less.. the basis behind this is because of your ego. when we do things without thinking what it will do to us (our ego) we are committing an action that is ego-less, therefore it is karma-less.
    Ah..okay noted, ego-less..

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    dili man pwede mu-reincarnate to a lesser life form.. that would invalidate the purpose of evolution.. how can someone of higher evolution resolve his karma when limited by faculties in a lesser life form? i forgot the text, but this is also stated in the secret doctrine by HPB. ask flying fish..
    Do you meant to say, si Pol Pot of Cambodia when he reincarnate tao lang gapon siya ron still enjoying another shot in life? Where's justice in that?

    Taym sa, unsa diay'ng klase ning inyong Karma and Reincarnation Principle kay as far as I know Hinduism man ang origin ani, wa pa man sauna siguro'y Evolution Theory when they come up with this system of thought...deviant form ni inyo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Ah..okay noted, ego-less..



    Do you meant to say, si Pol Pot of Cambodia when he reincarnate tao lang gapon siya ron still enjoying another shot in life? Where's justice in that?

    Taym sa, unsa diay'ng klase ning inyong Karma and Reincarnation Principle kay as far as I know Hinduism man ang origin ani, wa pa man sauna siguro'y Evolution Theory when they come up with this system of thought...deviant form ni inyo?
    you'd be surprised to find out how cruel life can be.. this human life is a suffering.. that's my truth.. find it for yourself.. i would like to share an example sa book ni paolo coelho about the karma of a certain bishop who committed a crime and then died and was reincarnated to serve his karma.. (but i dont exactly remember the story anymore) -- ill look for it muna..


    evolution is an age old concept.. its not a scientific theory before.. evolution of the human soul, going back to its source.. and reincarnation is not also owned by Hinduism.. Buddhism also has karma and reincarnation, as well as other ancient beliefs.. even the egyptians believed in karma and reincarnation..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    you'd be surprised to find out how cruel life can be.. this human life is a suffering.. that's my truth.. find it for yourself.. i would like to share an example sa book ni paolo coelho about the karma of a certain bishop who committed a crime and then died and was reincarnated to serve his karma.. (but i dont exactly remember the story anymore) -- ill look for it muna..
    That's why people come-up with different concepts to combat it. So you mean to say that it's an endless cycle of debt paying, because as one is reincarnated to serve his previous karma along the process he again accumulates new bad karmas; to be reincarnated again undergoing the same thing over and over again. This is no problem if this is the case, but the universe as we know it has to end someday...

    Is it possible then to live a life without accumulating bad karma and achieve perfection, considering that it is accepted that human is inherently inclined to do bad things one way or another because of freewill?

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    evolution is an age old concept.. its not a scientific theory before.. evolution of the human soul, going back to its source.. and reincarnation is not also owned by Hinduism.. Buddhism also has karma and reincarnation, as well as other ancient beliefs.. even the egyptians believed in karma and reincarnation..
    So you claim that there is an evolution of human soul meaning, that before I incarnate as a human soul I was first a soul of an ape?

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