Giants Human Skeleton

[chad_tukes]

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i'd rather believe on a sparse scientific theory than a FAIRYTALE with a COMPLETE LACK of evidence or proof.

man's imagination? hmmm.

[chad_tukes]

hehehe, di na cla ka 2bag ana pein kay c darwin puro ra IMAGINE (naliwat man cguro si bro nasyo).

if naay mo 2bag ana pein, nahan ko minaw...

/kebot sits down and order POPCORN PLEASE!

hahaha! IMAGINE daw. look who's talking?

are you sure we are the one's who are IMAGINING?

[tripwire]

"because I choose not to see it?"
--- what is this attitude? you don't bother to watch but you bother to attack it? hehehe. if wala ka kita so how can you know the message when in fact you don't want to.

Attitude? What do you mean by attitude? Oh you mean that I attacked you? Tsk… would you mind give me the meaning of arrogance? The fact is, I wasn’t arrogant with my statement. It was your assumption that it made look like it. Don’t put more words into my views because that’s not plain wrong.

"Kebz, you are discussing science to a NURSE – we eat scientific discoveries all the time! "
--- trip you are talking to a man who plays logic everyday... too bad for you, this is no scienctific forum. Maybe you are attending a wrong class nurse.

Kebz, I guess your logic is skewed because everyday logic is not as the same what you think. I read somewhere that you are a computer programmer or literate? Computer literacy doesn’t make you a logically true in all fields. If your work involves “IF and THEN”, you have every reasons to question what lies ahead your logic. If you are programmer, your logic should coin what those probabilities – AKA, answers. If you logic involves TRUE or FALSE, you should know what the possibilities of your answers. However, all the time I read your posts, comments, rebuttals, threads, arguments and sorts… there are no logical content. How would you describe yourself as logical person IF those arguments you created aren’t that logical? Then you PLAY LOGIC EVERDAY. Which I don’t see it actually. Too bad for you Kebz, you didn’t see the science in here because your arguments aren’t scientific either. BTW, if you play/live logic everyday, can you explain this sentence for me? “Maybe you are attending a wrong class nurse.” Because I don’t see logic to that.

"Do you have any condition or conclusive observation about the validity of hyperbaric condition in evolutionary concept?"
--- two piranhas under oxygen rich tank, almost similar oxygen content. They grew much bigger than ordinary. The hyperbaric atmosphere was observed in a lot of ways, Ice Sheets, bubbles inside a fossilized material... so they investigate the content of the air... blah blah blah.

I assume these are not your observation but someone else. Maybe from the net? What link is that kebz so I can see/read it. What I said, in the first place… DO YOU HAVE ANY CONDITION OR CONCLUSIVE… can’t get any easier than that considering you play logic everyday. Hmmmm?

"And here you asked me to read about PITUITARY GLAND? "
--- nope i ask you to read Hyperbaric Condition that AFFECT PITUITARY GLAND.

I know what you mean kebz. I made it short so we can start a broader explanation because to me, you only have peculiar understanding about those things. Do you know where pituitary gland is located without googling it? Do you know what part of the body is connected to it? Do you really understand what hyperbaric condition in the first place?

"You think by copying and pasting statements from the net makes you legit?"
--- don't hold the information upon yourself. Spread it. A lot of things we do not know. I never said its mine. Ill be behind bars because of copyright issues...

Hold information? The information is all over the internet kebz! You can read/copy/paste them if you want. Don’t ask me to spoon feed you.

"That includes EVOLUTION. "
--- forcing a theory to be TRUE. Remove the theory and it will be TRUE. It might have been accepted but never confirmed TRUE. EVIDENCE B? Do you know your BIG (FART) BANG is TRUE? and yes it HAPPEN ALL THE TIME... i bet you won't believe me.

Again for Nth time, your understanding about evolution kebz is not there yet. I asked you this very very long time ago and you still have the same questions. You will not get to another level of understanding if stay in your current level. You’re a logical person, you should be able to attain these without any fuss [sorry for the sarcasm].

Oh by the way, you understand misrepresentation but not errors and loopholes… haha, I can’t believe how shallow you are in the first place.
--- yes i am shallow to your POV. Let me explain.
--- misinterpretation are HUMAN standard, that goes with ERRORS and LOOPHOLES.
--- My God never misinterpret nor have errors, because if he did, his word will be for the selected few who will understand him and his errors. Tell you what, all you need to do is believe and accept his sacrifice then his word will be with you.
--- I believe you can never comprehend how it is to believe in God. Its hard, we are bounded by his laws. But its ok, his laws are never wrong, MENS' Laws are subject to errors. Whats the Implication... We save life as much as we can, you abort babies because you think it is RIGHT...
--- am I shallow, hmmm. 2Billion people believe in the Bible, I wonder why you are smarter and we are dumber... Gud luck mam.
--- One word TRIP, CLIMAX

Again, one word… HYPERBOLE.

One more, I guess you didn’t read your bible kebz. Honestly, I don’t read the bible regularly because there are things in that Book that creates more confusion than basic answers. Don’t get me wrong, the Book is an instrumental document to history and thus by that logic kebz, history is not all true.

[munzter666]

werent they supposed to be "flushed" down the drain with ZE FLuD??
murag naay height meter tong entrance ni noy noah.lolz

[ethzneuron]

hope im not too off-topic, just wanna share this one.. naabot naman ta sa evo, anyway:

Origin of Species - Henslow's Advice
If ever you find yourself sitting down to read Darwin's Origin of Species, keep in mind John Stevens Henslow's (1796-1861) advice to the young Charles Darwin. Henslow was one of Darwin's professors at Cambridge. In fact, it was Henslow who recommended Darwin to Captain Robert FitzRoy (1805-1865) of the HMS Beagle. Before Darwin set sail, Henslow recommended that he take Sir Charles Lyell's Principles of Geology. Lyell's book had a profound impact upon the young Charles and its influence is seen throughout Darwin's work. Henslow advised Darwin, "By all means read it for the facts, but on no account believe the wild theories." [2] We seek to pass this advice on to you. By all means read it for the facts, but on no account believe the wild theories.

[tripwire]

^^ sir, John Stevens Henslow was a catholic. He graduated at St. John's College, Cambridge. I read his autobiography when I was in college. He's also a botanist and a geologist. The fact that Charles Darwin was passionate about his discoveries that lead to theory of evolution he was convinced that by process of natural selection is the only solution to his findings. JSH by being a religious person, he advised Charles not to present his discoveries to the science community because their beliefs were already strong that there is a "creator". Charles refute and went on his discoveries in Galapagos Island. The rest is history.

Thanks for brining that up because it came back to me though.

[bluedes]

--- sorry blue but its not you who decide.. yes kung ako pod, hagbay rapod ka... you see the picture. So don't tell me I violated, you are not in the position, to tell me my penalty. If wala pa then wala pa, mods have thier reasons why. ok...

yeah, wa man ko nag-ingon na ako mudecide... i'm just stating a fact.. no offense, but hagbay ra man ka na-ban.. gamit man gani ka ug lain na nick..

--- if droping is the only way we can attain peace why not.

i don't consider that peace, but its just running away from the issue.. or burying the issue hoping it will go away, when in fact it will not.. it will just rise up at a later time.

however, in politics, this is peace already.. what they call "worldly peace". but its not inner peace..

--- droping it is a mutual way of agreeing your differences. I hope you see it that way

depends on how you put it.. when you drop something, its like you literally don't care... kay mabuak gud ang butang na i-drop, unless lig-on jud kaayo.. hopefully, lig-on na daan, pero kung dili, its much better to set it aside carefully..

--- dont talk about your differences in fact drop it, talk about something you can be productive of. Disagreements does, provoke a person. Just drop it...

i've learned that disagreements don't provoke persons.. its the attitude of reaction that determines whether naprovoke ba ang person or wala.. kung attitude na magpaprovoke, ikaw ra nagpaprovoke sa imong self.. control of one's emotions and maturity is a factor.

i'd like to bring examples... remember the topic na theosophy is satanism? look at how the theosophists reacted.. katawa lng intawn .. and what about the attack on athiests/atheism.. how do they react? quite logically and valid reasoning.. pero madugay, ma-pissed off pud ang tawo..

disagreements are most of the times unfavorable.. but if the persons who are disagreeing know how to handle themselves well, there's no need to drop anything at all.. pwede man na nimo likayan ba kaysa i-head on nimo..

"he don't care what I believe in, he respects what I believe in.. but I need to study all this science because I am pursuing a degree for the sake of it."
--- in that sense brad, yes its always nice when you are looking it in a perspective of something you can achieve. Everytime i solve a difficult logic, yes the feeling is nice... how much more if its something physical. But never use hard work as a way to tell people you are RIGHT. Its outcome will tell. But if you want my support we can talk about it, but never will i want to see you FAIL. A visionary like you is all we need on this country, but telling us we are dumb and you are smart is not the correct way of telling us... just prove your worth, ill be the first one to congratulate you.

huh? murag na misinterpret ra nimo kebz.. i never said i was right.. i'm just giving you an example of how scientists i know here work. because science isn't about proving it right, its about proving it wrong.. that's one of the surprises i have learned.. they don't design experiments to prove something right, they design experiments to prove something wrong.. that's why in the scientific community, they're very strict and very hard to convince unless somebody proves them wrong with valid experimental data.

thanks for thinking that you think that i think i'm smart.. pero honestly, i am not smart at all.. sus, pagkabogo jud nko kebz.. there are so many things i honestly don't know in biology and genetics. before, i thought they are easy, but my gosh, pagkalisura diay.. so i really don't think i'm smart at all--i'm actually stupid for not understanding simple acid/base solution problems.

--- this is called FAITH in my POV. Because you are never certain if you can achieve it or not. Don't worry brad, inventors lost count on how many times they tried, and we admire them. Keep your hardwork and focus on it. Forget this forum of hate, its not gonna help you. Move on and soar high. We need you and we need each other. With the quality you have, keep your interest in science burning, you will go places one day. KEEP IT UP.

thanks for your encouragement.. yeah, i would agree, its bordering on faith.. but i'm still having a hard time believing it. lisod man gud i-believe kung wala kay evidence.. they "say" they have evidence thru the experiments conducted by people in the past, but i'm the type na ganahan jud mutanaw sa experiment mismo.. but oh well, padayon kung asa ta maabot ani kay naa naman jud ta dre..

--- yes POISON. Hitler uses Racism to validate his JEWISH GENOCIDE. Polpot did the same, Stalin did the same in ukraine. Where did this RACISM came from? Well EVOLUTION. Survival of the FITTEST. If you are weak you deserve to DIE? People behave what they believe, therefore believing in Evolution poisons the mind in this sense.
--- HITLER said, its the Jew who are the source of all ... and they deserve to die. You might not noticed it, and yes you agree with it.
--- i never bash the scientist, its only the poison i am against with. If you are pushing that poison, of course i will adress this to you.
--- trashtalk is everywhere in this forum, so don't complain. I am nice when i came here first... but i believe its not necessary to this kind of audience...

as harsh as it sounds, in this world, it is the survival of the fittest man jud. if you're not fit to survive, you mutate until you're fit to survive, then you're considered the fittest, because those who are late in mutation they usually go extinct. there's no personal agenda here, na you're weak then you deserve to die.. its not about that.. if you're weak, then become strong then you'll survive. how to become strong? that's the problem that you will try to solve in order to survive. we are all in it.. those who are strong only survive at that point.. because tomorrow will be another time, and there will be more challenges that even the strong will need to evolve again in order to survive.

its really harsh.. but that's the reality of this world.. and the sooner you know about it, the better prepared you will be. I don't think God wants weaklings na lazy or sayon2x ra.. masnindot jud kung updated, fast, and very agile. but again, i'm just relatively speaking.. sometimes, being lazy can be a survival tool.. lazy in the sense na hinay ang person mulihok, meaning dili kaau siya mu-eat ug daghan kay not enough energy required to move, so a lazy person will survive in winter where scarce ang food, and everyone is hibernating.. but it will not survive in an environment where hunter-hunted na situation.

it all depends on how you view it.. but the good thing is, if you know the rules, you can play better at the game.

[bluedes]

werent they supposed to be "flushed" down the drain with ZE FLuD??
murag naay height meter tong entrance ni noy noah.lolz

hehehe.. unsa diay nang Ark, carnival ride?! naa height requirement..

rofl! for d lulz..

[kebotDiNaMute]

Attitude? What do you mean by attitude? Oh you mean that I attacked you? Tsk… would you mind give me the meaning of arrogance? The fact is, I wasn’t arrogant with my statement. It was your assumption that it made look like it. Don’t put more words into my views because that’s not plain wrong.


Kebz, I guess your logic is skewed because everyday logic is not as the same what you think. I read somewhere that you are a computer programmer or literate? Computer literacy doesn’t make you a logically true in all fields. If your work involves “IF and THEN”, you have every reasons to question what lies ahead your logic. If you are programmer, your logic should coin what those probabilities – AKA, answers. If you logic involves TRUE or FALSE, you should know what the possibilities of your answers. However, all the time I read your posts, comments, rebuttals, threads, arguments and sorts… there are no logical content. How would you describe yourself as logical person IF those arguments you created aren’t that logical? Then you PLAY LOGIC EVERDAY. Which I don’t see it actually. Too bad for you Kebz, you didn’t see the science in here because your arguments aren’t scientific either. BTW, if you play/live logic everyday, can you explain this sentence for me? “Maybe you are attending a wrong class nurse.” Because I don’t see logic to that.


I assume these are not your observation but someone else. Maybe from the net? What link is that kebz so I can see/read it. What I said, in the first place… DO YOU HAVE ANY CONDITION OR CONCLUSIVE… can’t get any easier than that considering you play logic everyday. Hmmmm?


I know what you mean kebz. I made it short so we can start a broader explanation because to me, you only have peculiar understanding about those things. Do you know where pituitary gland is located without googling it? Do you know what part of the body is connected to it? Do you really understand what hyperbaric condition in the first place?


Hold information? The information is all over the internet kebz! You can read/copy/paste them if you want. Don’t ask me to spoon feed you.


Again for Nth time, your understanding about evolution kebz is not there yet. I asked you this very very long time ago and you still have the same questions. You will not get to another level of understanding if stay in your current level. You’re a logical person, you should be able to attain these without any fuss [sorry for the sarcasm].


Again, one word… HYPERBOLE.

One more, I guess you didn’t read your bible kebz. Honestly, I don’t read the bible regularly because there are things in that Book that creates more confusion than basic answers. Don’t get me wrong, the Book is an instrumental document to history and thus by that logic kebz, history is not all true.

"The fact is, I wasn’t arrogant with my statement. It was your assumption that it made look like it."
--- wow, without looking at something presented, you already know whats in it... GREAT! not only you are GREAT but also you are COOOL. What do you think?

“Maybe you are attending a wrong class nurse.” Because I don’t see logic to that.
--- want me to explain?
--- you said YOU EAT SCIENCE EVERYDAY. sorry nurse, this is not a science class. use common sense, Does that make you RIGHT? Remember science offers temporary TRUTH. Might be false anyway.
--- why do you have to say that, Do you really mean EVERYDAY? <--- this is too much to boast of.

"What link is that kebz so I can see/read it"
--- are you sure? Of course those ideas were never mine. Its already there for everyone.
--- google it.

Again for Nth time, your understanding about evolution kebz is not there yet
--- yea not there...
--- YouTube - hovind rainbow debate
--- YouTube - kent hovind vs waggoner part 2.

Over 160 Professors Refuse to Debate Creationist!

YouTube - Over 160 Professors Refuse to Debate Creationist!

check out the videos... ARE YOU BETTER THAN THE PROFESSOR Berkeley University?

Watch how your EVO is put to garbage. pft!

[kebotDiNaMute]

hehehe.. unsa diay nang Ark, carnival ride?! naa height requirement..

rofl! for d lulz..

tsk tsk tsk... mocking session? remember the BAN WORD?