Karma and Reincarnation.

[Pein]

you need a sharper attention to spot the essential principle found in my previous statement.

bitin paman gihapon ang imong giingon bro...i expound pa daw ug maayo...pwede?

[Homo_quaeritans]

Bitaw no ...taym sa! think about this: Reincarnation works with karma, the idea that your past lives of "goodness" or "badness" affects the quality and position of your next incarnation. The purpose of reincarnation is to help you develop perfect karma by which you might then achieve a union with the divine consciousness after you have learned whatever it is you are supposed to learn. The problem is that each person had a first incarnation. That means that each person then had perfect Karma since he had no previous life and had done nothing wrong. Therefore, if he had perfect Karma and didn't learn or do what he was supposed to in his first life, then what makes him think that after hundreds of incarnations with accumulated bad karma that he will be able to achieve the perfect state of union with the divine consciousness that reincarnation moves him toward?

by Divine providence everything comes to a halt. Reincarnation stops and all Karma will be consummated.

Karmic dues can be paid during the present life. Look how things are going now, we are moving fast.

[Homo_quaeritans]

on divine union...maybe the souls will have the chance again in the next waking state of Brahma. this is not official I will answer this tomorrow. I have things to do.

[Pein]

by Divine providence everything comes to a halt. Reincarnation stops and all Karma will be consummated.

Karmic dues can be paid during the present life. Look how things are going now, we are moving fast.

unsaon man pag stop bro. kung madaot ang kalibutan ug wala nay tawo nga mabuhi? nagdepende ra diay ang reincarnation sa kalibutan?

[Homo_quaeritans]

unsaon man pag stop bro. kung madaot ang kalibutan ug wala nay tawo nga mabuhi? nagdepende ra diay ang reincarnation sa kalibutan?

i don't know where your questions are based from.

[Pein]

i don't know where your questions are based from.

naghuna huna rako ug possibilities bro. nga kung mawala naning kalibutan, asa man reincarnate tong mga tawo nga kinahanglan pa mu reincarnate para mabayran ang ilang karma? kay anytime pwede man nga naay mahitabo sa atong kalibutan...so unsaon mana ron?

[Existanz]

by Divine providence everything comes to a halt. Reincarnation stops and all Karma will be consummated.

Do you mean to say..there will come a time na di na manganak ang mga tao para kining mga buhi pa o existing na mupadayon sa ilang kinabuhi para ma-consumate ila karma...how about for example billions pa ang impending for reincarnation tapos bigla na lang naliso ang utak aning mga fanatics tapos nag-pabusikad silag nuclear bomb enough na di na jud conducive to human condition ang level sa radiation sa surface, hastang lugia nila (billion) bro..

Karmic dues can be paid during the present life. Look how things are going now, we are moving fast.

Kadtong before pa ko unang natao (incarnate) di ba perfect ako karma? nanu kailangan pa man ko matawo sa kalibutan para muagi ko'g reincarnation process o cycle para ma-achieve nako ang perfection?

[Existanz]

naghuna huna rako ug possibilities bro. nga kung mawala naning kalibutan, asa man reincarnate tong mga tawo nga kinahanglan pa mu reincarnate para mabayran ang ilang karma? kay anytime pwede man nga naay mahitabo sa atong kalibutan...so unsaon mana ron?

Dili equal ang chance Pien kung mao na?

[Pein]

Dili equal ang chance Pien kung mao na?

ambot unsaon na nila...ang akong tan aw aning reincarnation noh, its a never ending process. as long as naay tawo magsige jud nang reincarnation kay makasala gud ang tawo, so magsige pud ug reincarnate para mabayran ang iyang karma. hutda usa ang human race basin maundang ang reincarnation. kung mukalit lang ug kabungkag ang kalibutan, unsaon mana ron?

wala ko kahuna huna anang imong nuclear dah kana mas posible na kesa sa asteroid...hehehehe! bitaw noh what if ang Russia or China mupakawala ug atomic bomb nga enough para mahurot ang human race, unsaon kaha pag reincarnate nila noh?

[Existanz]

ambot unsaon na nila...ang akong tan aw aning reincarnation noh, its a never ending process. as long as naay tawo magsige jud nang reincarnation kay makasala gud ang tawo, so magsige ug reincarnate para mabayran ang iyang karma. hutda usa ang human race basin maundang ang reincarnation...

Lisod sad huna-hunaon ang ideya sa reincarnation man gud, for example ha sa Thermodynamics na lang ta energy- downhill jud ang trend aning energy; massive quantity mu-degrade siya pawala- di ni perpetual. Apply nato sa Karma..kung perfect ka before first incarnation nimo..ambot kung maachieve nimo imo initial perfection since start from positive karma man ka pag-naa na kay diri sa kalibutan..tendency start from positive going negative (not conclusive though).

ambot lang kung kaya nato mapildi ning mga temptation sa kalibutan- in our own will.