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  1. #21

    Quote Originally Posted by RolandBarroJr View Post
    What is the word Catholic mean to you?
    My Reply: Catholic means Universal..
    Okay, remember when you said earlier that religion divides the universal (catholic) church? catholic church never been divided for over 2000 years, its your denomination before that are divided since Martin Luther.

    Quote Originally Posted by RolandBarroJr View Post
    As a Born Again Church Age Believer, what are you before you been called nowaday christians?
    My Reply: An unbeliever. If mean religion? My religion before is Roman Catholic. When I became a believer, I became a member of a denomination called FUNDAMENTAL BATISTS which is also a religion. Not long I discovered that religion is of Satan. It is Satan's greatest weapon. It breaks Christians apart.
    So you are a catholic before at the same time you are an unberliever?

    Religion is of Satan? wow! where in the world did you get that notion? is there a biblicaL truth on that? let us examine it first.
    Can you please define RELIGION if you dont mind.
    Last edited by necrotic freak; 09-18-2009 at 06:07 PM.

  2. #22

    Default It was not.

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    Hello bro. What do you mean when you said that Christianity is not a religion?
    necrotic freak
    quotes: Can you please define RELIGION if you dont mind.


    My Reply: Christianity was not a religion before Emperor Constantine declared it to be religion of the Roman Empire as history would tell us. But by Biblical perspective, religion starts from the garden after man fails (Adam).

    Maybe I should define religion briefly. Here it is - RELIGION is man's way of solving man's problem. And it is very evident then (in the garden the first man fails) it is evident today. You see when Adam fell in the garden the first thing they do is to hide. Then, when God calls them, what they do? They cloth themselves with fig leaves. Man's Problem: They cannot face a Holy God due to the fact they have sinned - they were ashamed for they have known they were naked. Man's Solution: They covered themselves with fig leaves so that they can face God. GOD'S SOLUTION: God gave them skin of animals symbolizing the coming Messiah. Man's solution is to present his own self rigtheousness before God (fig leaves). Since God's Policy is when there is sin there is death (separation - "in the day that ye ate thereof ye shall die"). That is why God gave them the animal skin because he cannot accept man's own solution.

    Now, going back to Christianity was it a religion? My answer: No. It is an intimate relation which will start at salvation (Faith alone in Jesus Christ alone). The Bible says "As many as received Him (Jesus Christ) to them (those who will receive Jesus Christ) have gave power (the right) to become the sons of God, even to them (those who will) believe in His (Jesus Christ) name. You see God intended those who would become Christians to have a Father and son relationship through His Son Jesus Christ.

    However, when Christianity is exercised as a religion, it will destroy that essence of intimate relationship since man will present his own self-rigtheousness before God. If you are so kin enough you will this everywhere and in every denomination including Roman Catholicism.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    oh sorry, should it be "those?" please don't dwell on some insignificant point. any honest apologist can understand the question. and let me remind you that you have violated a rule in apologetic.

    question 1, i got no answer and you have provided no proof. thank you.

    question 2, you said "NONE" , see the question again.


    have a nice day.
    My Reply: When can you ever get it malic? Why are you so interested with the copy of the original? Will it be of most value? When I tell you that I have the original, will you now believe the Bible? I'm afraid you wont. So what's the big deal? Since even if we have that original, when the truth contained in it not taught correctly and believed to be true. It would simply be the same as having a translation of the copy of the copy of the copy from the original MSS.

  4. #24
    absolute truths of the Bible?

    isn't that an oxy*****?


  5. #25
    tinuod nga nag kilat ug na form ang 10 comanments.

    static electronice sculpter

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by RolandBarroJr View Post
    1)any concrete proof for that claim?(the claim that they are really copies of the original)
    - My Reply: Malic, you are using the word THEYit means it is not me. Why won't you ask them.

    2) and out of thousands of MSS fragments where none of them are identical w/c of them do you think are the copy of the copy of the copy of the original?
    - My Reply: NONE, since those are copies of copies of copies. Why can't you get it. God allowed the original one to be lost of some sort for us to rely on Him through the Holy Spirit.

    God allowed the original one to be lost?,,,,to rely on him thru the holy spirit?
    sir naman this is a big joke to your intellect

    looks like your god has some problem sir, divine incompetence & out of your sympathy,,,you keep on trying to act as "HIs" lawyer

  7. #27
    ano ang banal na halik?

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by tmhiong View Post
    ano ang banal na halik?
    A holy kiss is a brotherly kiss.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by RolandBarroJr View Post
    Do have a question about anything in life that no can give you a clear answer as to how it can be resolved. TRY THE ABSOLUTE TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE.

    I don't claim to have all the answer. But I believe that when there is question in life, the Bible has an answer to it. Which means if you that if you have questions that I am not aware of it yet (doesn't know the answer yet) I will tell you it will take time. If you have questions that I have the answer already, I will reply as soon as I get online.

    Long, story short. Hit your first question for a try.
    Okay! here I go..

    1. Is Hell's existence a form of punishment or simply a consequence? As I read the Bible I realized that God never really meant it to be a punishment, but like a father warning his son not to take drugs because it can cause addiction and will surely destroy his son's life.

    2. Is there a Biblical justification that explicitly give us the moral right, in the case of a Christian- to kill a human being in defense of one's life?

    3. If I believe in my heart that the Bible is God's word and that Jesus Christ is my redeemer, why are we still obliged to be a part of someone's church or congregation to be a full pledge followers of Christ?

    Given the fact that in my own I pray and praise God in my daily existence, give my help to my fellow man as I can, read the Bible and live it's teaching in not only in my mind but also in my deeds as I can.

    4. What is the Holy Spirit?

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovely Charm View Post
    God allowed the original one to be lost?,,,,to rely on him thru the holy spirit?
    sir naman this is a big joke to your intellect

    looks like your god has some problem sir, divine incompetence & out of your sympathy,,,you keep on trying to act as "HIs" lawyer
    i guess the loss was pre-ordained also. xD

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