Mga GARCIA sa Capitol, mga hawod na kaayo.

[?gAiL?]

daghan ang mi ilis sa cebu oi ako cousin d nganhi gikan manila naka ingon jud cya na ka limpyo daw sa cebu compare nimo sa manila. unya ako cuz sa ormoc d hatagan cla ug magazine sa ila school na young leader naa ngadto ang cebu one of the cities in asia na d bangon sa economic crisis. correct me if i am wrong and i stand to be corrected

[LytSlpr]

let me say this again, ang CICC dili murag hotel nga intended to generate direct income. it is intended to generate "multiplier effect" income to the people.

don't get me wrong again. im not talking about the CICC alleged overpricing on this matter...that's another story.

this logic and reasoning is way off target. i can't even believe you said this.

[KASAAC]

sa redemptorist raba na tig-simbahan sa gwen ai

[giddyboy]

Honorable Commissioner(10% Commision!) giddyboy; swetoha nimo ahhhhhhhhhhh nya mo ingon ka nga dli ka garcia? o dili ka usa sa mga nakakomisyon. pastilan. wa naku g insulto ang atong mga gagmayng negosyante oi, looy na sila pero mas looy pud ang mga tawo nga naa sa probinsya nga wa gyuy gibuhat ang imong pinalangga ug gipanalipdan nga manang gwen gar-nan-cia! dli man gud maayo ang kuha sa mga pictures didto sa probinsya kong e compare nimo sa kuha sa CICC mao na. palihug nya kog compute kong pila na ang ginansya sa CICC ug pila pud ang nagasto ninyo sa inyong picture-ristic activities diha sa cicc ug ang gastu sa pag pa au sa mga guba diha sa inyong CICC. nya e compute pud ko sa na invest matud nimo naa compare sa inyong MGA DAGKUNG buliYASO kong asay mas daku kay murag interesado ko ana dah. pero sure kay ko nga mas daku pa inyoha kaysa para sa mga tawo.

swetoh ko gmay ky i've been reading the news. i also go out and not just go out para mag night life. wa lage ka ga insulto sa gagmayng negosyante but i belong sa gagmayng negosyante.

e apil pud ang cash gift nga matud pa sa COA with no legal basis given to the capitol consultants, mao na diay na laing term sa komisyoner, consultant. nabalik na ba kaha ang AMONG WAWART?

first of all, i am not a commissioner or someone who works at Capitol. i don't even know about that cash gift thingy. if they have no legal basis, then by all means knanglan mauli nang kwartaha.

usbon ko pag ingon nga kaning inyong aktibidadis diha sa CICC panglipat-lipat rani para kunohay naay gamit ang CICC kay pastilan sa kong wla panang cicc asa naman na e held o di kaha maka huna-huna kaha mo anang mga aktibidadisa? inyo ra gyud giluto inyong self sa inyong sariling mantik-OIL.

if im not mistaken, the CICC was built for the main reason of us being awarded to host the ASEAN Summit. Pres. Gloria preferred it to be held here because of the significance of Cebu as a major contributor to our economy. I even think the location where CICC now stands is symbolic for Mandaue City as well. Even Mayor Cortes can well agree w/ me on that.

para nako, naa gyuy gamit ang CICC ug dili pang lipat2x lang. Even ang Embassy (popular restobar) in Manila that many young people longed to be there can be materialized here na.

again, I have no issue if people criticize CICC for its construction cost or quality. but if talking about purpose, that's another matter.

[giddyboy]

do u even know that most people at CDN originally came from Sun.Star? gpang pirate sa CDN, owned by Inquirer...
and if we are talking about bias, depende rana sa tawo unsa iyang pagtuo...
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komisyoner giddyboy, maoba? pirated diay nang mga tawo diha kasagaran sa cdn from sunstar? sakto gyud lagi ko nga sa sunstar wlay freedom of expression kay awa ang cdn karon o maayo kaayo mo report basta dli gyud lagi pugngan2x sa tag-iya nya tagaan lang gyud ug freedom nga maka express ug makalihok nga way ga pugong sa ilang trabaho nindot gyud ug agi. busa mga sugbuanon cdn nata! hehehee ako hagbay rako ni undang basa sa sunstar.

no, did2 cla ni balhin sa CDN/Inquirer ky mas dako nga sweldo ang gi offer sa Inquirer. coz if not, how can they even pirate if the pay is still the same or less? Inquirer is a big national paper while Sun.Star is only local. Inquirer can afford higher salary rates using Manila rates while Sun.Star Cebu cannot. sumala gud, u don't wonder why people are transferring from one callcenter to another? it is because of our freedom to compete.

I have a relative who also transferred from Sun.Star to CDN and also said the same thing. it is all about greener pastures, increasing financial needs, that we all dream to have. remember that before CDN, walay lain nga arang2x mo hatag ug salary nga newspaper sa Cebu other than Sun.Star.

and even if that "pirating" leaves a bad taste in the mouth for Sun.Star, they opt to go humble and not say anything against those pirated people or even Inquirer.

let me also disprove your thinking that they transferred coz they didn't have freedom to express. in fact, their writing works are just the same before in SS as to now they're in CDN. their writing styles remain unchanged. or if ni-improve man gani, it is because mgka dugay nka as writer, mgka improve gyud ka, of course.

btw, I read both CDN and Sun.Star. even Freeman sometimes.

[dodongnaki]

welcome back komisyoner giddyboy!

"if im not mistaken, the CICC was built for the main reason of us being awarded to host the ASEAN Summit. Pres. Gloria preferred it to be held here because of the significance of Cebu as a major contributor to our
economy"
HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? thats a big mistake! nagbuta-buta napud ka? tungod na sa mga opisyal sa cebu ug namong mga sugbuanon unta kay dire nakakuha ug dakung botos c gloria nga ate ni gwen sa korapsyon. dili ang main reason tungod sa economic contribution. pastilan.

e uli na nya ninyo ang cash gift pls lang.... yaw na intawn mo pabaga ug nawong.

sweto ra kaayo ka oi kong sa news ra kay ngano ikaw ra kabalo mo basa ug news? wa man gani ka kabalo sa mga dagkung accomplishment ni lito O nya kang gwen nga hastang gagmaya perting gagmaya gyud ai kung naa man gyud nya kabalo gyud ka hasta ang abang sa inyong korapted CICC. aw nuon bsin sa sunstar ra ninyo g post kay inyo gud na. kong mobasa kag news y man wla ka kabalo sa cash gift aber? aw nuon pud basin wla g post sa sunstar kay madaut ang DAUT ug damaged nga garcia nimo. pastilan.

[giddyboy]

welcome back komisyoner giddyboy!

"if im not mistaken, the CICC was built for the main reason of us being awarded to host the ASEAN Summit. Pres. Gloria preferred it to be held here because of the significance of Cebu as a major contributor to our
economy"
HAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? thats a big mistake! nagbuta-buta napud ka? tungod na sa mga opisyal sa cebu ug namong mga sugbuanon unta kay dire nakakuha ug dakung botos c gloria nga ate ni gwen sa korapsyon. dili ang main reason tungod sa economic contribution. pastilan.

well, your sarcastic opinion should be respected. yes, ang CICC natukod after the 2004 elections which made Gloria won a margin of over a million votes over FPJ. people may consider the CICC as owing to the Cebuano votes. well, there are more valid reasons than that.

When President Gloria decided that Cebu was to be the venue for the 12th ASEAN Summit, Cebu responded to this compliment by seizing the opportunity of a CICC.

Not only did the Cebu Province dreamt of this but also mostly from Cebu businesses as well.

the question was never whether it should be built, but rather if it could be finished on time.

In late 2005, PGMA decided that the province would host the 12th ASEAN Summit and 2nd East Asia Summit in Dec 2006, which was later on moved to January 12-15, 2007 due to Typhoon Utor. The Phils was supposed to host the twin summits on Dec 2007 yet but Myanmar, the original host for 2006, backed out. Since the province lacked a stand alone convention centre with complete facilities for a large and prestigious international gathering like the ASEAN Summit.

Historical Location

The City of Mandaue is a 1st class city in the province of Cebu, Phils. It is known as the "Emerging Convention City in Asia." The city is one of two highly urbanized cities in the province of Cebu , and form the core of the Metropolitan Cebu area.

Where the Cebu Convention Center is built is a very important historical landmark of Mandaue City. Where this convention center sits is witness to Mandaue's involvement in trade and international relations even before its discovery by western explorers.

source: wiki

e uli na nya ninyo ang cash gift pls lang.... yaw na intawn mo pabaga ug nawong.

sweto ra kaayo ka oi kong sa news ra kay ngano ikaw ra kabalo mo basa ug news? wa man gani ka kabalo sa mga dagkung accomplishment ni lito O nya kang gwen nga hastang gagmaya perting gagmaya gyud ai kung naa man gyud nya kabalo gyud ka hasta ang abang sa inyong korapted CICC. aw nuon bsin sa sunstar ra ninyo g post kay inyo gud na. kong mobasa kag news y man wla ka kabalo sa cash gift aber? aw nuon pud basin wla g post sa sunstar kay madaut ang DAUT ug damaged nga garcia nimo. pastilan.

i even want to think that those cash gifts thingy did not make it to the headlines...do u even know that Sun.Star columnists also criticize the CICC and the Balili issue? that itself disproves your twisted theory. pastilan. pls be fair to these journalists pud oi. irresponsible statement, you have.

and kabalo pud ko oi sa accomplishments ni Lito O. i never said I didn't. maybe forgotten some details lng cguro tungod na sa kadugay...

[giddyboy]

well, don't get me wrong here. I admit that I was a Lito O fan (i even voted for him as President), but Cebu was not really that successful during his term. it's just that he also cooked up this "Ceboom" thing so as to lift up our spirits especially after we are recovering from the devastating effects of the supertyphoon Ruping (or was it Nitang). but critics during his time kept asking, where is the boom?
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komisyoner giddyboy, cooked up this ceboom thing? wa ka kyapi? unsa man diay nang cebu busines center, shipyard sa balamban, transcentral highway, mepz lapu2x, minglanilla/naga, danao nga mga factory ug daghan pa! kinsa may nag initiate ana? and mao nay sign of a very very good leader nga e upbeat ang spirits sa mga tawo labi na naa sa krisis o kalamidad maayo kaayo mo pasalig ug naay kumpyansa sa iyang gibuhat ug buhaton pa! awa karon daghan na kaayo nag trabaho diha sa ayala ug shipyard nya daghan na kaayo nag agi2x sa transcentral. nya ingon lang ka nga cooked up? kay mao man style ninyo, cooked up kusog kaayo mang luto sa bulilyaso. ka remember ka nga sa ruping nga bagyo ang cebu ning barug nga wla nag agad sa national government. atong balihon ang pangutana, asa man ang boom o CEbuom sa imong gar-nan-cia? WALAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! boooggggg nuon naa! CICC boogggggg, baliligate boogggggg pud ai o ang SALN diay maoy ning BOOM ninyong mga gar-nan-cia incorporated. korek? korek! boom pud ang photo album. pastilan.

im not worried on your opinion but I am worried on your facts.

CEBOOM refers to the boom of Cebu's economy in early part of the 90's. (what i mean cooked up is the catchy term "Ceboom" that Lito O cooked up. he was the one who thought of it first)

Super Typhoon Mike (PAGASA name: Ruping) crossed Cebu on Nov 13, 1990, destroying many houses in Cordova, sinking ships in the harbor, and leaving the metropolitan area without electricity and potable water. It took about a month to restore electricity.

Cebu leaders requested Manila for assistance but because the typhoon also paralyzed vital structures in the capital, the requested was turned down.

After the typhoon Cebu's infrastructure was updated. Two major mall chains in the country, ShoeMart (SM) and Ayala, opened outlets in the city. Road widenings and construction projects mushroomed in the city. Traffic at the old Mactan-Mandaue Bridge (itself an engineering feat at that time) started to have bottlenecks.

CEBOOM was instrumental in Emilio Mario Osmeña's confidence to bid for the 1992 Philippine presidential elections. It also strengthened the concept of the Republic of Cebu.

source: wiki

and i didn't say Lito O walay dagkong accomplishment. i am saying that Cebu was not really that progressive during his time.

MEPZ:
here's even a quote from @minuano27 from another thread: "for a bit of history, in the mid-1970's Marcos ordered the creation of "Export Processing Zones" throughout the country - in Mactan, in Bataan, even in Baguio. MEPZA, as in "Mactan Export Processing Zone Authority", was opened in 1979 along the road going to the airport; this is what is now known as MEPZ-I. i should know - i have a pending case where one of the factual issues is when a parcel of land was transferred from the Mactan Airport for use by MEPZA, now PEZA.

PEZA came along in the 1990s, as it was created to take control over all the export processing zones. this can be attributed to Lito O, since he was FVR's economic czar during that time. it was also in the 1990s that MEPZ-II was created. that, again, can be attributed to Lito O. "

so u see, not all about MEPZ is attributable to Lito O. there were already locators way before Lito O was even elected governor.

also, one can say that Gwen or her father nagtongtong sa accomplishments ni Lito O. but we can also say that Lito O nagtongtong pud sa accomplishment ni former Guv Gullas...

do u even know that as a Ramos adviser, Lito O was believed to have used his position to advance his business interests?

anyways, OT nata ani.

[dodongnaki]

OT diay? back to the topic.

pero ako nagtuo gyud ko nga kaning mga garcia diha sa kapitol hawod na kaayo, kay ngano?

asa ka anang ning palit ug yuta aw dagat diay nga naay yuta gamay way plano2x ug unsaon ug unsay gamitan nya ning gasto nag 98million ra hinoon gamay ra pero dili inyong kwarta mga garcia-ha mo! kun dili sa mga sugbuanong magbubuhis nga maoy nag pakaon ninyo. dli na hawod? kong dili na hinawod unsa man dinanghag? tinanga? o simpleng kurapsyon? o mao ra gyuy ma abot sa inyong abilidad ug alimpatakan tungod s kagamay sa utok? dili ni ot komisyoner giddyboy ha?

[giddyboy]

OT diay? back to the topic.

pero ako nagtuo gyud ko nga kaning mga garcia diha sa kapitol hawod na kaayo, kay ngano?

asa ka anang ning palit ug yuta aw dagat diay nga naay yuta gamay way plano2x ug unsaon ug unsay gamitan nya ning gasto nag 98million ra hinoon gamay ra pero dili inyong kwarta mga garcia-ha mo! kun dili sa mga sugbuanong magbubuhis nga maoy nag pakaon ninyo. dli na hawod? kong dili na hinawod unsa man dinanghag? tinanga? o simpleng kurapsyon? o mao ra gyuy ma abot sa inyong abilidad ug alimpatakan tungod s kagamay sa utok? dili ni ot komisyoner giddyboy ha?

dili na cya OT. and pls stop calling me komisyoner. i will report this to the mods if padayon ka ing ana. abuso nana imoha hap!

na hala, padayon sa imong gibati dha...hawod na kng hawod man jd kha. but pls remember that your opinion is not shared by everybody. ky basin naay taga probincya nga mas mo laban ni Gwen kaysa ni Tomas. basin naay women rights group nga mas molaban ni Gwen kaysa ni Tomas. basin naay uban nga gihaworan pa ni Tomas over sa tanang politiko sa Cebu.

pero para nako, way mka labaw sa kahawod ni Tomas rong panahona. halos tanan kontra niya: Cuenco, Mary Ann, Gullas, Guardo, etc. ang cardinal i even believe was not spared from him. himuon paman gani niya ug kontra ang provincial constituents nga wala untay labot sa away...dili man unta ing ani ni cya sauna oi.