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    Default Re: RELIGION....(part 2)


    He who knows others is wise ...He who knows himself is enlightened. -Loa-Tzu

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    Go deeper and question all of your beliefs ...
    re-evaluate what your parents have told you, re-evaluate what your religion has told you,
    re-evaluate everything and anything that you come across from now on ...
    including this website, dear one, for there are no exceptions in any way.

    It is time to see how you "feel" in your heart about whatever is being presented.
    This is the process of thinking on your own ... of thinking with your heart
    and discovering the difference between the Divine Love hidden within you
    and the limited love that has been taught to so many of us.

    Only hold close to you what feels good in your heart, not what another says you should hold.
    A God of Divine Unconditional Love unites and brings all together in Love.
    Separation of any kind, in any way, in any form, for any reason is not God ...
    it is not Divine Love ... it is humankind holding a deep imagined fear of some kind.
    Whenever separation shows it face it can be used to determine where Truth does not exist.
    Separation shows us there is something important being shown ...
    it shows the difference between Divine Love and a limited love.
    Dear one, you know in your heart ...
    separating is not your grandest expression in human form for you can "feel" it.

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    Begin searching for the things we have in common with one another.
    If we listen with our hearts we will find there are common threads
    in almost all teachings that show the way to Divine Love.
    The mind without the heart is not our wisest expression.
    The heart connects us together, it is a place that calls us to Love.
    Divine Consciousness/Awareness leads us into well being in every way.

    We really do have the answers and always have. Love is what life is really all about.
    All the separation among my ethnic families taught me a lot.
    Separation is what all the chaos and confusion is about in many of our lives and on our planet.
    Separation brings false feelings of righteousness and causes us to choose sides.
    Its fruits are chaos, jealousy, and hate which doesn't accomplish anything
    for our higher goods, it breeds a darkness that hasn't found Love.

    Seeing clearly beyond separation and finding the truth of Divine Love is a stepping into our majesty.
    When we identifying with this Love within us and realize we do have and know these answers ...
    we wake up. We are so much more than we have been led to believe or allowed ourselves to become.

    Each person on our planet wants to be Loved and wants to give Love ...
    there really is no one here that does not want to feel Love.
    It was always meant for us to find this Grand Love within us.
    We are the Christ in Consciousness that was foretold of ...
    we each hold the Inner Light to change life as we know it and save our planet.

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    Wise Ones have said ...
    The world is not suffering because of the evil people ...
    the world is suffering because of the good people who do nothing.

    Why are we waiting? What happened to taking responsibility for our actions?
    We teach responsibility to children. How could we have forgotten how important this is?
    We are accountable, each and every one of us ... for everything we do or don't do.
    We are accountable for what is going on in our lives and for what is going on in this world.

    This, dear one, is where heaven on earth is waiting for us, it is in the realization
    of Who We Truly Are and what our Beingness can truly express and bring forth.

    Anything that suggests separation in any way is not Divine Love,
    nor is it God, nor is it Divine Wisdom ... how could it be?
    For would a Grand Love really separate us from one another?
    Or has it really been us in ignorance doing the separating all of this time?
    How could we not notice something was wrong with separation?
    Why didn't a red flag go up when it was mentioned? How could we not see the darkness it holds?
    How could we not "feel" that separating was leaving Love behind?

    What is shared on these pages has been chosen from many teachings around the world ...
    these pages only hold the parts and pieces that ring true in my heart, dear one.
    It would be very wise for you to do the same when you search for your truth.
    Only take what feels good in your heart and leave the rest be.
    Divine Love will show you the way.
    Never be afraid of following the Love that You Know and Are.


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    It takes "responsibility" on our part to hold and apply Divine Love in our lives.
    A teacher cannot truly help another awaken until he or she is ready.
    Self empowerment comes when we awaken to it is all about us,
    our actions and what we are doing or not doing and why.

    Divine Love has been whispering to us for a long time ...
    awakening, enlightenment and change has to do with "us" not another.
    It is realizing we are not victims, we never were, and our happiness depends on us.
    We are Divine Beings and it is time to step into our Divinity.

    Many are holding and applying this Grand Love spoken of now,
    and their lives are changing in every way, some are waiting,
    others are talking It but they are not walking It, some may never walk It at all.
    If you would like to receive a Grander Understanding of Life, this Beautiful Love and You
    it is offered in a personal way or in the book just completed on this site.
    It is one way to step into true happiness by using inner power.
    It is given in Love to self empower you totally and what is shared is complete.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dacs
    hey, soulshocked!
    I am waiting for your reply on my questions regarding the claims in the cartoon pages you have posted.
    He has no evidence to back up his silly propaganda cartoons. The assertions there are plainly false, as I pointed out in the article Was Origen the Origin of the Septuagint?. Those cartoons he posted are full of factual errors. And when printed, they are useless except perhaps as toilet paper. As usual, such people demand that others prove claims from the Bible, but when you ask them to do the same, it turns out that they CAN'T prove their own claims from the Bible! Good grief!

  7. #737

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060323/...istian_convert

    oo why why why can anyone explain these to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeza
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060323/...istian_convert
    oo why why why can anyone explain these to me
    Fanaticism perhaps?

    Anyways, I think the man has been saved.

    Afghan convert goes to ground in Italy
    Click here for story
    "ROME (AFP) - Abdul Rahman, the Afghan Christian who narrowly escaped the death penalty
    after converting from Islam, has gone to ground in Italy shortly after arriving in Rome in a s
    ecurity operation shrouded in secrecy."

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    It is very normal. Pareha ra na ug ang imong maasawa or mabana is having different religion with you. Others may convince or even force their partners to shift religion or sect for a common one. But others may ignore it as they believe that their church is the right one and can lead them to eternal kingdom that GOD prepares for the righteous ones.

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    “I never approved of a schism, nor will I approve of it for all eternity. . . . That the Roman Church is more honored by God than all others is not to be doubted. St, Peter and St. Paul, forty-six Popes, some hundreds of thousands of martyrs, have laid down their lives in its communion, having overcome Hell and the world; so that the eyes of God rest on the Roman church with special favor. Though nowadays everything is in a wretched state, it is no ground for separating from the Church. On the contrary, the worse things are going, the more should we hold close to her, for it is not by separating from the Church that we can make her better. We must not separate from God on account of any work of the devil, nor cease to have fellowship with the children of God who are still abiding in the pale of Rome on account of the multitude of the ungodly. There is no sin, no amount of evil, which should be permitted to dissolve the bond of charity or break the bond of unity of the body. For love can do all things, and nothing is difficult to those who are united.”

    Martin Luther to Pope Leo X, January 6, 1519
    more than a year after the Ninety-Five Theses
    quoted in The Facts about Luther, 356


    “There is one God and one Christ, and one Church, and one Chair founded on Peter by the word of the Lord. It is not possible to set up another altar or for there to be another priesthood besides that one altar and that one priesthood. Whoever has gathered elsewhere is scattering.“

    St. Cyprian of Carthage
    Letter to his Clergy and to All His People


    “The Church, having received this preaching and this faith, although scattered throughout the whole world, yet, as if occupying but one house, carefully preserves it. She also believes these points of doctrine just as if she had but one soul, and one and the same heart, and she proclaims them, and teaches them, and hands them down, with perfect harmony, as if she possessed only one mouth. For, although the languages of the world are dissimilar, yet the import of the tradition is one and the same. For the churches in Germany do not believe or hand down anything different, not do those in Spain, not those in Gaul, not those in the East, nor those in Egypt, nor those in Libya, nor those which have been established in the central regions [Palestine] of the world.”

    St. Ireneaus (c. 130-200)
    Against Heresies


    “When therefore, we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek among others the truth which is easily obtained from the Church. For the apostles, like a rich man in a bank, deposited with her [the Church] most copiously everything which pertains to the truth; and everyone whosoever wishes draws from her the drink of life. Let us suppose that the apostles had left us no written records. Would we not have been able to follow the precepts of the tradition that they handed down to those to whom they entrusted the Churches? It is this precept of tradition that is followed by many barbarian nations that believe in Christ who know nothing of the use of writing, or ink.”

    St. Ireneaus (c. 130-200)
    Against Heresies


    “The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ He says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatever things you bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth, they shall be loosed also in heaven.’ And again He says to him after His resurrection: ‘Feed my sheep.’ On him He builds the Church, and to him He gives the command to feed the sheep; and although He assigns a like power to all the Apostles, yet He founded a single chair, and He established by His own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was; but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the Apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?”

    St. Cyprian, AD 251
    The Unity of the Catholic Church


    "But since it would be too long to enumerate in such a volume as this the succession of all the churches, we shall confound all those who, in whatever manner, whether through self-satisfaction or vainglory, or through blindness and wicked opinion, assemble other than where it is proper, by pointing out here the successions of the bishops of the greatest and most ancient church known to all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul, that church which has the tradition and the faith which comes down to us after having been announced to men by the apostles. With that church, because of its superior origin, all the churches must agree, that is, all the faithful in the whole world, and it is in her that the faithful everywhere have maintained the apostolic tradition".

    St. Irenaeus (disciple of Polycarp, disciple of John)
    (Against Heresies 3:3:2 [A.D. 189]).

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