Philosophy "Under the Sun"

[Existanz]

for me, yes but w/ care
sorry sir wise brown im more of agnostic kasi

Maybe that's the category...but I cannot accept that (with clench fist hehehe)! I believe there is a God and to know him is by knowing Christ. I don't believe that God exist like a supernatural bearded man bent down over an anthill eternally 'pakialamero' sa mundo. I believe God exists only as a concept in the human mind - a concept from Christ teachings. God once did exist in this world, He did a pass over into existence by being Christ.

I can not be an Agnostic even if I wanted to...it's a rudderless boat in the sea of absurdity.

What's you're take Ms. Lovely Charm? How do you do it?

[The_Child]

a theist of course... Soren + Camus (quite a strange combi for my existentialist view)...re- Bible, i read it in the fashion of ayn rand tamed by the dialectics of augustine.

so how in god's name are you suppose to read the bible in the fashion of ayn rand tamed by the dialectics of augustine? hehehe

[brownprose]

Now I understand your position regarding religions..hehe

By the way, does theistic existentialism falls under the category of agnosticism?

It's a difficult question and the answers may only be incumbent to its proponent. To Kierkeegard, "theistic existentialism" regards human existence as impossible to explain as it is to transcendent truth thus its adherents must and should take that "blind leap of faith" to understand his purpose and his relations with the divine in the face of its absurdity (irrational universe) "The meaning of life, that which makes life happy, is to find one's particular purpose, to will that one thing which constitutes purity of heart, and to become a person capable of carrying out that idea."

Agnosticism holds the same view only it does not obligate the person to make that leap of faith but to neither affirm nor deny the existence of transcendent truth as it is simply unknowable. Thus, agnosticism may or may not have that "existentialist" property.

[brownprose]

so how in god's name are you suppose to read the bible in the fashion of ayn rand tamed by the dialectics of augustine? hehehe

you can try if you like.

[brownprose]

for me, yes but w/ care
sorry sir wise brown im more of agnostic kasi

that is okay, mam...i see you have the makings of bertrand rusell.

[The_Child]

i dont understand it. how could i try it?

ayn rand is not a hermeneut in the first place, and its a contradiction: rand reading a bible.
coupled with Augustine's dialectic? what dialectic? and how does it jive with Rand.

i just dont get it.

[SEED OF LIBER]

that is okay, mam...i see you have the makings of bertrand rusell.

Not so maybe Rober Ingersoll i guess...

[brownprose]

i dont understand it. how could i try it?

ayn rand is not a hermeneut in the first place, and its a contradiction: rand reading a bible.
coupled with Augustine's dialectic? what dialectic? and how does it jive with Rand.

i just dont get it.

you can be objective in some parts of the bible and you can be submissive in other parts. meaning we pursue those things in the bible that can be explained by reason and evidence while submit it to God for those which we cannot... "to learn without signs."

[Existanz]

It's a difficult question and the answers may only be incumbent to its proponent. To Kierkeegard, "theistic existentialism" regards human existence as impossible to explain as it is to transcendent truth thus its adherents must and should take that "blind leap of faith" to understand his purpose and his relations with the divine in the face of its absurdity (irrational universe) "The meaning of life, that which makes life happy, is to find one's particular purpose, to will that one thing which constitutes purity of heart, and to become a person capable of carrying out that idea."

Agnosticism holds the same view only it does not obligate the person to make that leap of faith but to neither affirm nor deny the existence of transcendent truth as it is simply unknowable. Thus, agnosticism may or may not have that "existentialist" property.

That's a nice one Mr. Brownprose, I think I'll buy your explanation.. What God is and is not is simply an existential question to a particular person. Like the way Christ used parables when he preach to people.

"The meaning of life, that which makes life happy, is to find one's particular purpose, to will that one thing which constitutes purity of heart, and to become a person capable of carrying out that idea."

...a truth that is true for me and to which I could live by (I guess in spiritual matters )

[YLINGAO]

you can be objective in some parts of the bible and you can be submissive in other parts. meaning we pursue those things in the bible that can be explained by reason and evidence while submit it to God for those which we cannot... "to learn without signs."

nindot ni sir dah mr. brown. very innovative kaau. karon pa ko ani. c ayn rand kay atheist man gud tu nya c st. agustine kay mystic sa una before siya nahimong catholic. murag imong idea sir kay kung wa ko masayop, kinahanglan rational ta if we read the bible pero di nalang pugson pagugkat anang mga mysterio diha, sakto ba ko sir?

i dont know if atheist ko or agnostic. but i believe in morality. pwede ba na sir