Christianity and Nazism

[Ramini]

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buffalo soldier..taken from africa to fight for america..etc...hehehe!!!

[jamesmusslewhite]

Ramini
Sorry I did not get back to you question about Hitler and his use of the Occult in his rise of power, control of the German propaganda machine, instill fanatic national pride, and the Officer core of the SS. I have located three excellent websites that go into great lengths to provide so facilitating insite and reference point for furthur reasearch. I am sure you will find them a very interesting read.
Hitler/Occult
HITLER AND THE OCCULT - REAL HISTORY OF THE THIRD REICH | Australian Paranormal Society
Illuminati News: Hitler and the Secret Societies

Ramini and munzter666
I am still locating adequate reference materials explaining the complex relationship between Hitler and Stalin. When Hitler Luftwaffe was bombing London, and his Panxer had routed France, they were fueled by Russian oil. I will locate and post the information in the next day or two.

I will always back any statements with variable facts if requested, and am happy to do so. Though American, i am of German origin and that is why I have studied the subject so much. I also had the occasion to be able to talk to officers of the German SS and and US arm forces. There is nothing better than first hand eye witness accounts. In the US alone WW2 veterans are dieing at a rate of 1,500 a day. within 20 years that whole generation of Officer Corps will be lost to history. Most never told their stories to the world.

Those that refuse to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

[munzter666]

^sure, sure. if you say so.
i just read the gnostic liberation front: disclaimer tag from one of your links.teeheehee(wild goose chase)

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[jamesmusslewhite]

munzter666
Almost all websites that compile articles from multiple web-sources that are not their own intellectual property or are not sure of political or website agenda will use similar Disclaimers. because they can not be held responsible for all information posted on their site. So what was your point? You can not use it as a reference point and conduct further research the subjects? You might have to do a little work, it is not in a comic book form. Omami magazine uses a similar disclaimer and is considered one of the premier science magazines in the world. So by all means do not read it either, because you might accidentally learn something. What a pitiful excuses to just be mentally lazy.

I am sorry I can not just hand you a book to resolve you obvious synical disposition towards anything I post, so here a post to a video done by the History Channel, pay the $20 dollars plus ship and handle or see if you can download a Torrent off the net for free. I have far more important things to do with my time. I am trying to be helpful and you just want to punk me. That is fine. You have that right.
Hitler And The Occult, Subjects War & Warfare , HISTORY Shop
I read what I read and attended many a lectures on the subject of WW1 and WW2 while attending collages while fulfilling the course requirements for three different Masters degrees. History was always my Minors. I worked and socialized with former German Nazi SS officers and 3rd Reich Rocket scientists while I worked at NASA in Houston, Texas. I am sure you have far more vast information then they had. They only met Hitler face to face over several years being the heads of his V-1 and V-2 rocket programs. You are right what could they possibly know? After all a young Filipino who has only probably read a couple of Books on the subject, would possess far more knowledge than those that were actually there. German intellects who actually shook Hitler's hand and talked directly to the man over a period of several several years. Men who ate at his table and moved within his inner circle. I am sure that there are a lots of WW2 Tagalog history books written on this subject.

You can not teach those that choose close their minds, or those with limited knowledge and just want to find reasons to be too lazy to learn new things.
It is your lose, I just saved myself a lot of wasted time. Yes you are a true intellect. Thank you at least I learned what you were before I wasted a lot of time for nothing. Good luck with your future research, you just lost a rich source of useful knowledge, who will have really tried to help you with good resource material and try to answer your questions. What a waist of time. will not respond to any of your post or questions in the future.

[pigrah]

this is soooo interesting!
i want some more! more more more!

[munzter666]

munzter666
Almost all websites that compile articles from multiple web-sources that are not their own intellectual property or are not sure of political or website agenda will use similar Disclaimers. because they can not be held responsible for all information posted on their site. So what was your point? You can not use it as a reference point and conduct further research the subjects? You might have to do a little work, it is not in a comic book form. Omami magazine uses a similar disclaimer and is considered one of the premier science magazines in the world. So by all means do not read it either, because you might accidentally learn something. What a pitiful excuses to just be mentally lazy.

I am sorry I can not just hand you a book to resolve you obvious synical disposition towards anything I post, so here a post to a video done by the History Channel, pay the $20 dollars plus ship and handle or see if you can download a Torrent off the net for free. I have far more important things to do with my time. I am trying to be helpful and you just want to punk me. That is fine. You have that right.
Hitler And The Occult, Subjects War & Warfare , HISTORY Shop
I read what I read and attended many a lectures on the subject of WW1 and WW2 while attending collages while fulfilling the course requirements for three different Masters degrees. History was always my Minors. I worked and socialized with former German Nazi SS officers and 3rd Reich Rocket scientists while I worked at NASA in Houston, Texas. I am sure you have far more vast information then they had. They only met Hitler face to face over several years being the heads of his V-1 and V-2 rocket programs. You are right what could they possibly know? After all a young Filipino who has only probably read a couple of Books on the subject, would possess far more knowledge than those that were actually there. German intellects who actually shook Hitler's hand and talked directly to the man over a period of several several years. Men who ate at his table and moved within his inner circle. I am sure that there are a lots of WW2 Tagalog history books written on this subject.

You can not teach those that choose close their minds, or those with limited knowledge and just want to find reasons to be too lazy to learn new things.
It is your lose, I just saved myself a lot of wasted time. Yes you are a true intellect. Thank you at least I learned what you were before I wasted a lot of time for nothing. Good luck with your future research, you just lost a rich source of useful knowledge, who will have really tried to help you with good resource material and try to answer your questions. What a waist of time. will not respond to any of your post or questions in the future.

oh boy. as what i've said. "SURE, SURE."
my point was to take everything from those sites(specially) with a grain of salt. in case you haven't noticed. most of those related topics from the sites you listed where more of a "conspiracy theories", nothing more like an gossip talk blown out of proportion. ==>more like theories that involved hitler escaping with the reptilian master race.

and YES, i did read (most of it, did not bother to finish. critical thninking and a simple deduction exercise indicate gossip talks about opinions with a little dash of historical facts.) those links. and YES, they are no better than the google search results a click away, rocket science goood, thank you.

[Ramini]

@james
I cannot digest the idea that the 3rd reich IS MORE of an occult and esoteric group than a political one..these kinds of stories emerged from the 60's or late 50's from "ailing" writers..kinsa maning imong mga na socialize nga mga nazi ss officers?..nagkasturya mo ni Adolf Galland?..hehe!! fine..cge i'll give you that..pero honestly i think you should meet and talk with Prof. Ian Kershaw i think he's from Oxford..he's a no nonesense WWII writer..basta ako..i never trust anything from hilter..except for military manuevers..that one sure jd na inig ingon nyag mao na mao jd na..even if it kills him..hehe! if you do have any information linking hitler and directly from hilter nga naa syay mga occult connections please post it here or give us the name of the book..and hopefully from really good and respected authors and not some website although nice jd baya it's a very fascinating premise nga ang 3rd reich is an occult group or whatever pero sa akoang mga nabasa hilter's regime is nothing special than any common fascist government..who can say, and do anything and get away with it..nindot pero dli jd sya possible..im sure it's all goebbel's
machinations and himmler's unguided occult fanaticism.

@munzter
gi mention ba na nya sa iyang libro?..mga occult2x things?..i think wla man cguro dba..all he mentions is this "divine providence" and nothing more

[jayrom]

mga germans kay dedicated christians man pud.. daghan pud gali catholics didto. pero mao nay gi-ingon ka dle jud sukod ang religion.. ang importante unsa imo binuhatan.

[munzter666]

i just cant grasp the idea though entertaining as it is that a) hitler is an "agent" b)loyalist to the fourth Reich/ da new world order and c)da crap that almost leveled britain to submission were instigated by...wait for it...a secret society. and d) hitler lives, post WW2. an entertaining conspiracy theory nonetheless. market this with jerry bruckheimer and this will be bigger than "raiders of the lost ark" and "hellboy" combined.


the nazi may have an occult section/division. but not to this extent. as part of hitler's master plan was reinforcing its ideology as well as their ROOTS. through PRIDE with patriotism, nationalism, and even myth and folklore.

it is also interesting to note, that hitler also included gypsies(astrologers/mystics) part of the purification targets along with them JEWS. what does this imply then? dog eat dog occult style?harhar

[jamesmusslewhite]

[quote=Ramini;5467011]@james
I cannot digest the idea that the 3rd reich IS MORE of an occult and esoteric group than a political one..these kinds of stories emerged from the 60's or late 50's from "ailing" writers..kinsa maning imong mga na socialize nga mga nazi ss officers?..nagkasturya mo ni Adolf Galland?..hehe!! fine..cge i'll give you that..pero honestly i think you should meet and talk with Prof. Ian Kershaw i think he's from Oxford..he's a no nonesense WWII writer..basta ako..i never trust anything from hilter..except for military manuevers..that one sure jd na inig ingon nyag mao na mao jd na..even if it kills him..hehe! if you do have any information linking hitler and directly from hilter nga naa syay mga occult connections please post it here or give us the name of the book..and hopefully from really good and respected authors and not some website although nice jd baya it's a very fascinating premise nga ang 3rd reich is an occult group or whatever pero sa akoang mga nabasa hilter's regime is nothing special than any common fascist government..who can say, and do anything and get away with it..nindot pero dli jd sya possible..im sure it's all goebbel's
machinations and himmler's unguided occult fanaticism.

The following URL is to a video done by the History Channel and has been shown on the History Channel before. It go much deeper than I have the book resources here in Surigao. I no longer have the access to the large libraries that I had access in the States. The only resources are on the internet. and will require extensive time internet searching to seek them out. Some may be links to books, videos, novels, or manuscripts. I will try to find them but it requires research and work on your side too. I am willing to spend the time, but bits of facts can be found out of any source. It requires honest devotion and critical thing to sort fact from fiction. Too tract down source of factual information is the act of intellectuals. History is written by the victors and driven by their agenda and their propoganda. Often facts are discredited or distorted by these so called historians.

Hitler And The Occult, Subjects War & Warfare , HISTORY Shop This has been aired on the History Channel and is accepted as fact and has no disclaimers. Argue with them I am those are smarter on this forum then the researchers of the documentary.

The earlier URL's I posted were to subject websites and were not meant for definitive proof or easy answers. They were just for familiarization and source referencing. That is why I got mad at munzter666 he ask questions as if he knew of no such correlations could exist. I took time to look up some websites that contained subject matter on the subject as a starting point. To allow him to formulate viable intelligent questions. I guess where I made the mistake was believing he would act and engage as an intellectual. I will not make that mistake again.

He appears to only want to smart-ass me. I frankly have better things to do with my time then play tit-or-tat with a smart-ass. Why should anyone want to engage in petty exchanges with faceless entities on any website, especially with those which chose to disrespect other members? If someone is respectful, then I am willing to spend countless hours engaged researching to subjects with them. I have no magic wand that I can just "poof" an easy answer to his questions and hand it through his monitor. I do know that if someone was trying to help me research a subject of interest, I damn well would not disrespect that person. I surely would not smart-ass him.

You do not disrespect and engage properly and I am willing if you like to patiently locate information to connect the dots. I would be glad to do so if you choose. I have spent literally years reading everything I could get my hands on the subjects, and talked to those that were part of that history. Those that wore the black uniforms, and clicked their heels and pledged their souls to Hitler. As I had said earlier you must go back to WW1 and in some subjects you must go back even as early as 1880's. The societies, the beliefs, and cultures. What were the social myths, predigests that lead up to the 1st World War and what had not been resolved even up to the 2nd World War. These factors is what created a generation of men who are often called monsters. Germany was considered the culture center of the world, even as 6 1/2 million jews, and German citizens were shipped off to their deaths in death camps. It is the understanding of a world that is now lost and now being twisted and taught by those with a socialist agenda.

If you want I will help you, if not the that is fine. I am a 51 retired research biologist/ Horticulturist/ with a MBA, who would rather spend my time with my 14 year old son and my wife. I have a good life here in the Philippines and can always find better things than wasting my time on those who just want to act foolish, smart-off, and choose in behavior that is counter productive. beside I have family businesses to run. fish to catch, places to explorer, and life to enjoy. I will just teach what I have learned to my son. He wants to learn.

One learns when he says "I do not Know" nobody ever learned by saying, "I know all there is to know."