Dan Brown: Angels and Demons

[diem]

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Da Vinci Code and its insinuation that Christ had been devirginized by a prostitute, and Angels and Demons and its proposition of a corrupt, immoral and rapidly dying Catholic church, are nothing more than works of fiction. While the facts enunciated in these books could easily sway us from our faith, we should not be too brittle minded to just admit his hypotheses as fact.

Dude, the Da Vinci Code does not insinuate that Christ had been devirginized by a prostitute. Instead it insinuates the theory that Christ was just an ordinary man but an extraordinary religious leader who got married and had a child with Mary Magdalene (which the book says, is lambasted as a prostitute by an OLD chauvinist Roman Catholic Church). And the Angels and Demons revolves around another secret society of freethinkers and scholars, again decreed by the OLD Catholic Church as a satanist sect.

Just staying true to the words IN THE BOOKS.

I agree that Dan Brown's works are just mere fiction but fiction based on non-fiction works and actual history which why we enjoy it so much.

[DexterTexter]

Da Vinci Code and its insinuation that Christ had been devirginized by a prostitute, and Angels and Demons and its proposition of a corrupt, immoral and rapidly dying Catholic church, are nothing more than works of fiction. While the facts enunciated in these books could easily sway us from our faith, we should not be too brittle minded to just admit his hypotheses as fact.

Dude, the Da Vinci Code does not insinuate that Christ had been devirginized by a prostitute.Â* Instead it insinuates the theory that Christ was just an ordinary man but an extraordinary religious leader who got married and had a child with Mary Magdalene (which the book says, is lambasted as a prostitute by an OLD chauvinist Roman Catholic Church). And the Angels and Demons revolves around another secret society of freethinkers and scholars, again decreed by the OLD Catholic Church as a satanist sect.

Just staying true to the words IN THE BOOKS.

I agree that Dan Brown's works are just mere fiction but fiction based on non-fiction works and actual history which why we enjoy it so much.Â*

@diemjudilla

Woops. My bad! Might have gotten a little too exaggerated there! Well, whether Christ got devirginized or just plainly got hitched, a lot of Christians are taking this notion a little too seriously. I wouldn't be surprised if people will start protesting the release of Da Vinci Code the Movie here. I'm certainly intrigued how the movie will depict Dan Brown's notion of Christ.

And I wonder if they'd ever make the "prequel," Angels and Demons into a movie also. Hope they don't mess it up like the other novel-turned-movie outfits.

[eternity]

Yeah, most of you are sooo right!

MAS nindot gyud and Angels and Demons than the Da Vinci Code.. i don't know where they get the idea? Page-turner gyud ang Angels compared sa DaVinci Code...

No offense sa fans sa The DaVinci Code... hehehe

[mique]

i really love reading the book over and over again! nice jud!

[kyuusai]

If i were to choose between Da Vinci Code and Angels and Demons, i'd choose Angels and Demons as a better book. I read it first before I picked up Da Vinci Code and the story still lingered. It's definitely wilder!

********* da vincci code daw weakens your faith, how true is this?

no, it's not.. it's merely just a fiction it is just a product of creative imagination of dan brown. so don't believe on it.. you read it first before you throw questions.

[IceInHeLL]

"no, it's not.. it's merely just a fiction it is just a product of creative imagination of dan brown. so don't believe on it.. you read it first before you throw questions." - kyuusai

I'm sorry but I have to disagree on that. Though the works of Dan Brown (specially Angels & Demons and The Da Vinci Code) are considered as fiction, but it evolves on events that some scholars admit to be true. In this case, it contradicts the very teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. Secondly, if the historical backgrounds in the fiction are indeed true (as claimed by scholars and proven by various old documents), then it should question your very faith for why should one believes a person or group of people who manipulates history, facts and events to bring out something in their favor. Isn't it the same church who states that "the end does not justify the means"? If lying, manipulating, killing and so forth is practiced so as to make people believe that there is a God and that they should do good so that they won't be punished...should be consider acceptable, then, go on believing the same church that crucified thousands of people by burning them in the stake just because they are pagans. Ladies and gentlemen, that is exactly what happened in the Great Witchhunt of Europe and followed by the Withhunts in Salem, New Orleans and other parts of the US during the early centuries. The church make people think that pagans are witches and that they are evil...worshiper of Satan so as to give them reason to kill them. Pity, the very same people that says "Thou shalt not kill" are the very same people who violates such in thousands. Isn't it hypocrisy? I think I have enough of thier lies. I'm not saying that the Roman Catholic church is an evil organization, but I think they ought to tell the truth. If I was born in the early centuries and say something like this, I will be seen floating in the river lifeless by dawn. Its a good thing that the church is no longer as powerful as they used to be.

Don't get me wrong....I do believe that there is a God. I do believe that good deeds reaps good rewards. But please don't ask me to accept a lie to be the truth.

The truth shall be known. One can never hold smoke in bare hands.

[IceInHeLL]

try also digital fortress and deception point... and also if u want some explanation about the da vinci code, read also the BREAKING THE DA VINCI CODE..., also by dan brown... hehehe....

I am quit curious with this one. Is there really a book called "Breaking The Da Vinci Code" authored by Dan Brown? Can you please check on this if it is true. I know that there were a lot of books of the same genre, explaining or separating the fact from fiction based on Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code but I dont't think Dan Brown ever made a book of such. You probably misread it. The book was probably titled "Breaking The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown" but it is authored by a different person and not as what you claimed that Dan Brown also has a book entitled "Breaking the Da Vinci Code". Thanks....

[gareb]

i find Angels and Demon's tackling of the 'problem of evil/suffering' grossly insufficient. it only goes halfway into explaining that the purpose of evil/suffering is to strengthen either the collective or the personal/individual human psyche. it fails to point out the existence of an amount of needless suffering that occurs everyday; something that is the Church cannot make any sense of, nor explain.

the book's suggestion of redefining the role of the Church (or for that matter, religion) to coincide to what ethics and morality misleads us into thinking that the fountain of ethics and morality is the exclusive domain of religion altogether. it pits the two great forces that have changed and shaped human existence for ages, Science and Religion, and concludes that since Science is without morals and ethics, Religion is still essential to provide those lacking elements. this ignores the split between the study of ethics and religion that happened a little bit more than a century ago, and that ethical considerations on scientific procedures can be done sans religious dogma.

we are no longer alien to the fact that Machiavellian, unethical and immoral tactics have been used to advance the interests of the Church time and time again; tactics that even go at great lengths, perhaps even to hide the truth, to preserve an atmosphere of moral ascendancy, religious influence and political power, that an authoritarian Church requires. what the book fails to mention is that the Church doesn't have monopoly of what is deemed to be 'right' anymore, unlike previous centuries of moral domination.

another point that has been overlooked is that the basis for the Church's religious dogma is being challenged left and right, hence it's moral ascendancy and authority to dictate what's wrong from right. but most of all, the Church still assumes a medieval stand that it's opinions with regards to morality are absolute; a fact that is out of place in a modern world.

[MrBiddle]

@ Gareb, Thank you and sorry for any trouble though I did not start the duplicate thread I wasn't able post and locate this more widely used version of the discussion.

kuan kabasa nako.... my thoughts are I found Angels and Demons to be a perfectly riveting experience. A book with a heightened degree of suspense and intrigue and more importantly, spirituality. It will have you rooting for the need of God and might influence you in behaving towards Science as if it were a body of knowledge that can only go to far onward with frivolity and the marred reduction of the wonders of the Higher Power to mere mathematical equations. Langdon fights obstacles while solving puzzles, holding his breath in mid-air while Mickey Mouse mocks him, recounting ancient art and history opposite the strong-willed Vittoria Vetra, brave but a woman with scruples she and Langdon find chemistry and romance in ANGELS AND DEMONS. Watch out for humorous exchange and quips such as the tranquil "Piranha" breathing, Catholic nutrinos and Yoga master Houdini. Carmelegno Ventresca is a man with conviction and is distinguished, serene and pious but watch out for his character arc at the end of the journey. Opposite him is Maxmilian Kohler, the director determined to defend CERN, a man of arrogance and self-righteousness. Join Langdon as he encounters a deadly assassin, hides from gunfire inside a tomb, fights him underwater, climbs caves and creeps into castles, and prior to that the discovery of grotesque yet mesmerizing and hypnotic methods of murder and execution and one very breath taking sequence from above in a scene towards the end.
Dan Brown performs better sleight of hand in ANGELS AND DEMONS, believe me it IS a better twist than that of "The Teacher" in The Da Vinci Code... It is foreshadowed decisively so there are no artificial contrivances. You would immediately be disappointed when you are made to think that the sleazy and proud character is the villain behind it but in the end lies a more disturbing twist to the puzzle, and collateral damage of revelations that are pay-offs of the story's central theme from the opposition to the idea that science is a miracle or to a certain portion of the book where a character wishes for "No more deaths." Angels and Demons is blockbuster perfection indeed per one of the critiques printed about the novel. It will incline you towards determination to fulfill tasks of greater importance and urgence, to embrace if any a higher degree of spirituality and of course ideals of noble things to be done, be it from the twisted villain or from the old Cardinals... and don't forget a little bit of romance. Much more profoundly may authors like Ludlum or Clancy write, but Brown is one of those scribes who is able to weave entertaining yarn, fast and easy to comprehend, and entertaining at that despite some pomp or subpar prose that his critics may negate him for.
Angels and Demons. Try it.

[hera_82]

I love love love love this book! :mrgreen:
I think this is a better work than The Da Vinci Code.