All About RELIGION Here

[kebotDiNaMute]

In effect kebs, what Mr.Fish is saying is, he doesn't want to speculate about the concept of God.

sh!!!! daghan ta ato posts, dont worry wala koy prob ni mr. fish... i just want to clarify.

as to the standards of god believers,,,buddhism is not considerd as religion
--- who are you referring to?

[kebotDiNaMute]

if you are here to make your self feel better... you are wrong... all these people are talking trash... dont expect a good behaviour though, I have done it before... too bad

[brownprose]

I think that tells us about the behavior (misbehavior?) of some believers and not really religion itself, its validity?

misbehavior is one thing. but what about those teachings which religion imposes which is against reason and conscience? don't you think religion is also enslaving?

[Tirong-say]

Respect for each other's religion and faith, love for one another, and unconditional love towards GOD, I think transcends all known thoughts about spirituality....

[chad_tukes]

misbehavior is one thing. but what about those teachings which religion imposes which is against reason and conscience? don't you think religion is also enslaving?

isn't religion enslaving in general? an innocent question coming from yours truly.

[josephdc]

misbehavior is one thing. but what about those teachings which religion imposes which is against reason and conscience? don't you think religion is also enslaving?

Like unsa na mga teachings bro?

What do you mean when you said it's 'enslaving'?

[handsoff241]

misbehavior is one thing. but what about those teachings which religion imposes which is against reason and conscience? don't you think religion is also enslaving?

Religions do not have teachings that goes against conscience, only against the situation and reason.

[Ramini]

We probably vary in our definitions on spirituality. My definition is more of psycho-social and anthropological while yours is maybe "theological" (if I'm not mistaken) which prompted you to think that religion "is not" a/the product of spirituality.

Just to clarify, spirituality (from the point of anthropology) was already observed by early humans (Neanderthals) in a form of reverence for or worship of sacred objects, offering and burial ceremonies etc... long before the first religion was built. In essence, humans are particularly "spiritual" or "seeking" in nature according to cognitive science.

And when humans came to learn how to write, came also the various authors in different regions all attempting to write their spiritual traditions, their myths and legends, their codes of conduct all poured into their writings forming adherents and believers taking them as "absolute truths" or divinely inspired or sacred. Thus, the birth of many religions.

So why are there many religious militants today? Religious militancy is not something new. In the past, people even fought to prove who the better god was. As I have said in another thread, there were more than 2,000 recorded events related to religious war and violence as religions matured sometime in 1000 CE. Even today, because religions vary in their concept and exercise of spirituality, it has also become a cause of friction. Thus your observation is correct when you said of the militants as the "effects of religion."

yes i do agree in your post..and lahi ta ug definition sa spirituality..kai akoa i think spirituality is more than just worship and obeying one's god's law..i think it's much more than that..murag becoming one with the law or sonething..i have to admit my definition of spirituality is tainted with my own biases..but i think valid man pd akong biased definition if viewed in another context..bsta ang akoa definition sa duha is: Belief= more on believing though haven't really digested the essence of what one has believed and ang usa Spirituality= has transcended the stage of belief and faith..you have become one and absorbed the essence of your beliefs much like science kng mag mix ka ug gunpowder you KNOW nga mubuto jd na..and not just putting faith or trusting in the mixture..kai in the first place you have extensive knowledge na of the individual ingredients and you know which exact component and mkahatag ug explosive quality..and not the one nga ni assume lang ka kai mao mai imong nakit-an sa uban kng unsaon pag mix ang gunpowder your confidence relies on others' words and actions rather than on your own..so the former is my analogy of what spirituality is and the latter is belief and faith

[brownprose]

Like unsa na mga teachings bro?

daghan bro...i'll give you two obvious examples:

- The Bible is taught to be the ONLY absolute truth in the world.
- That Christianity/Islam is the only religion that can save.

What do you mean when you said it's 'enslaving'?

- Enslaving because religion controls the mind. It imposes fear to those who challenge its doctrines. Example: How many religions today preach that for one to be saved one must be a part of their religion to do so.

[brownprose]

Religions do not have teachings that goes against conscience, only against the situation and reason.

^^ of course there are. see a few examples i posted in reply to joseph.