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    Quote Originally Posted by mannyamador View Post
    The roots of violence against women and children
    The roots of violence against women and children Prolife Philippines

    BASED on findings, the incidence of child abuse has increased dramatically for the last 20 years. This vicious phenomenon is attributed to the contraceptive mentality, the seed of which were sown in media and the school curricula around three decades ago. Most men and women who grew in that milieu imbibed the anti-life or anti-natal spirit. They are mothers who refuse to bear children, who use contraception, who abort and neglect their children. These are fathers who abuse their own children, who abandon their families, who regard women as commodities, who regard children as property.

    Dr. Philip Ney, A Canadian child-psychiatrist, claims that abortion and contraception remove the guilt for killing innocent lives. No less than Judge Noonan of the American Jury considers the rise in the incidence of child abuse as one of the adverse consequences of the Roe v. Wade Decision that legalized abortion in the USA. In that country, there is widespread child abuse and wife battering despite the strong feminist movement. Incidentally, abusing their children is part of the Post Abortion Syndrome of women who had had abortion.

    George Gilder, a sociologist, provides a similar explanation. He says that violence against women and children flows from the collective consciousness of men who are retaliating from society’s rejection of their maleness – their capacity to sire off springs (as in contraception), and their giving up their role as a provider and protector of the weak and defenseless (as in abortion). They then retaliate by performing “male” acts to prove their superiority, for instance, sexual abuse and brutality to those whom they perceive as weak.

    Another factor contributing to violence is pornography. Two generations of Filipinos already have been exposed to such material through cinema, television, tabloids and magazines, comedy bars, internet, videos, and lately, the mobile phones. Finally, the values-free type of *** education (reproductive rights, “safe ***”) promoted by the population/birth control advocates targeting 8-12 years olds seriously disturb the latency period in the psycho-sexual development of our children. During this stage, sexual energy should be directed for the development of compassionate feelings are destroyed during the latency period are frequently devoid of this emotion. Without compassion, the youth plunge in surges of violent behavior. Thus pornography develops potential criminals.

    Society is like a parabola where values form a fixed locus extend like lines reaching every point. When from the central point emanates philosophies that shape people’s values and culture towards annihilation of life, there follows a separation of the human experience from the Divine. Let us not be surprised if our society is prone to exploitation and brutality. As Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta has said. “The greatest destroyer of peace in the world today is abortion. If we allow a mother to destroy her unborn child, what is there to stop you and me from killing each other.”

    violence against women and children increased in 20 years because of contraceptive mentality?!!! women and children have been the subjects of abused (physical, mental and emotional) longer than that and all through out human history we can see subjugation of women and commodification of women due to patriarchal structure of societies.

    saying violence against women is the result of women refusing to get pregnant, or having an abortion is like having a limited view of the magnitude of the problem on gender inequality.

    blame the victims for the crime of others.. yup that rights... they are abused because they asked for it?

    have you watched movies like Iron Jawed Angels, NOrth Country or IN GOds COuntry?

    HAve you read Simon de Beauvoir, mary Wollstonecraft and other feminist theorist?

    are you familiar with the evolution of the feminist ideology?

    are you familiar as what pregnancy and childbirth and child rearing entails to a woman in comparison to the man? the multiple standard in a patriarchal society..
    are you familiar with the multiple burden of women, dont you watched tv how many commercials depicts women as working moms who work and also take care of the children and their husbands?



    If there is something to be blame for women's reluctance to get pregnant or their choice not to get pregnant id say it same thing that you say which resulted from women's movement.

    Women choose not to get pregnant because it tie them down to chauvinist males who think they are above women and better creature, these men are those who beat their wives and their children.These people are the reason why there are feminist movement and why are women asking from helath care.
    if women want health care or to have choice because they dont want to be incased in a box or a social stereotype...

    If we see broken children we blame mostly their mothers but what the society see or dont want to see are men who broke these women.

    Women's movement resulted from abused of women. So to say that abused of women and children came from the fruits of women's movement is unbelievable and an insult.
    Last edited by unsay_ngalan_nimo; 08-16-2009 at 10:45 PM.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by eax View Post
    Mao gyud.

    Sometimes ang Catholic Church is discriminating women.

    diba sila ang original male chuavanists?

  3. #13
    i so totally agree with you unsay_ngalan_nimo!

    clap clap clap!!!

  4. #14
    But Msgr. Esteban Binghay, episcopal vicar of the Cebu Archdiocese, reminded women that their primary role is at home.

    “Ang bana mao’y mangita; asawa mo-care sa children (It’s the husband who goes out to work; the woman takes care of the children),” he said.

    But he said that with today’s economic crisis, the Church understands that wives have to work, too, and it is important for them to be given equal employment opportunities as the Magna Carta provides.
    WHAT? Economic crisis or not, women SHOULD have the right to choose whether to work or not. No one has the right to say that they should stay at home and be stepford wives or whatnot. This guy is ridiculous.

  5. #15
    very ridiculous gyud! kinaraan kaayo ug thinking!

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    violence against women and children increased in 20 years because of contraceptive mentality?!!! women and children have been the subjects of abused (physical, mental and emotional) longer than that and all through out human history we can see subjugation of women and commodification of women due to patriarchal structure of societies.

    saying violence against women is the result of women refusing to get pregnant, or having an abortion is like having a limited view of the magnitude of the problem on gender inequality.

    blame the victims for the crime of others.. yup that rights... they are abused because they asked for it?

    have you watched movies like Iron Jawed Angels, NOrth Country or IN GOds COuntry?

    HAve you read Simon de Beauvoir, mary Wollstonecraft and other feminist theorist?

    are you familiar with the evolution of the feminist ideology?

    are you familiar as what pregnancy and childbirth and child rearing entails to a woman in comparison to the man? the multiple standard in a patriarchal society..
    are you familiar with the multiple burden of women, dont you watched tv how many commercials depicts women as working moms who work and also take care of the children and their husbands?

    If there is something to be blame for women's reluctance to get pregnant or their choice not to get pregnant id say it same thing that you say which resulted from women's movement.

    Women choose not to get pregnant because it tie them down to chauvinist males who think they are above women and better creature, these men are those who beat their wives and their children.These people are the reason why there are feminist movement and why are women asking from helath care.
    if women want health care or to have choice because they dont want to be incased in a box or a social stereotype...

    If we see broken children we blame mostly their mothers but what the society see or dont want to see are men who broke these women.

    Women's movement resulted from abused of women. So to say that abused of women and children came from the fruits of women's movement is unbelievable and an insult.
    I agree w/ you. saunz kontra man sa mga pro-life groups ang mga women's movement gud...it's like Akhro vs. Tau Gamma...hehe...and anything or anybody against the principles of these pro-life groups, as their name suggests, is anti-life kunohay. toinks!

    mao btaw nahitabo ani ron about sa issue of the proposed Reproductive Health Bill: pro-life groups are against the bill, women's movement are in support of the bill. Debates can go on and on, but in the end, ang gov't ra gyud ang mo decide.

    well, at least we just made the Magna Carta for Women into law. Good news for the people, bad news for the critics! what's next? the RH Bill...
    Last edited by giddyboy; 09-01-2009 at 09:36 AM.

  7. #17
    I strongly believe in the signed Magna Carta for women.

    Many of the critics against that legislation don't know what it is like to be women.

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by eax View Post
    Mao gyud.

    Sometimes ang Catholic Church is discriminating women.
    That is very true. They have a said history of prejudice against women and their potential.

    Msgr. Esteban Binghay does not know what it is like to be a woman.

  9. #19
    the roots of violence against women and children...is the contraceptive mentalityover 20 years

    are these people crazywomen have been violated ever since the world began...

    the spanish friars have continuously abused women during their reign in this country, which often resulted to bastards...and illegitimate children...and these women had kept their silence, fearing that these friars might hurt them.

    during the japanese occupation, women had also been raped and tortured and killed...remember the comfort women?

    women are not only abused in their homes, but in their workplaces as well. have ever bothered to research on how many women filed complaints about their bosses sexually harassing them

    and where is the contraceptive mentality in that20 years?women have been abused for more than 20 years.....

    and then here's the magna carta for women...this will certainly empower women, but giving them rights...allowing them to move forward and make their own future, protect them from men who think they are above all women.

    the magna carta for women breaks barriers and paves way for women to become equally capable as men. this is what women needs.

    the magna carta can even help women that are victims of domestic violence to move on....why do you think these women go back to their good for nothing husbands even after he almost beat her to death

    because she is scared, lost and doesn't know what to do...with the magna carta we can help free these women from the claws of hell...found in their very own homes...for years women have been raised with the mentality that their responsibilities are their children and husbands....and that they should stay at home....some are even reared with the thought that they are nothing without men...

    which i so totally disagree....women are humans as well....gender aside they are as capable as the male species...to tie these women to houses and children and husbands and totally forgetting themselves is so wrong and it actually violates their rights.

    violence against women has no connection with women saying no to getting pregnant, as what is previously mentioned in one of the comments...most women are reluctant to get pregnant because it ties them down. which is true, it keeps them from growing, and it ties them all the more to their husbands who see them as baby making factories, not as wives and partners.

    in addition to that women are dying each day due to pregnancy related complications...these complications often stem from poor spacing in pregnancy, multiply pregnancy, poor nutritional support and many more....is this what the pro-life activists want??to see women die and die and die?

    alot of children lost their mothers due to these complications, and these children are forced to step up and even give up their childhood, simply because their fathers are incapable of keeping and taking care of the family.

    have these pro-life activists been to the slums..and the squatters' areadid they see how these children suffer each day because they don't have food, don't go to school, don't have clothesis that within the principles of pro-life??to see children suffer, simply because women can't say no to getting pregnant because it can lead to violence?

    these children may be alive, but they are good as dead, because what future do they haveoftentimes these children go to the streets and oftentimes they end up with the wrong company and oftentimes they end up dead, beaten up or incarcerated.

    why should we stay stuck up with the belief that women should stay at homewhy should we nourish the mentality, that women should always bow down to what men want?

    let's admit it....there is an increasing number of males that are incapable of providing for their own family...

    and should the women suffer, even though they are well aware that they can provide for their family, just because the society dictates that she should stay home, despite the obvious truth that her husband is incapable of keeping up his responsibilities to his family

    have they forgotten that most males mature later in life...and women mature at an early age, making them more stable and more capable....

    it is time to throw old beliefs....there is no point tying ourselves down...women are now breaking barriers, and over the years more women are making a mark in history....

    the magna carta for women provides a level playing field for men and women, and for the critics my condolences to you, you can't stop the female species from moving forward.

    we are humans with brains and we have the capacity to think, it is time for us to use our heads...

    and oh...the article posted by mr. manny amador....is simple to understand...IT IS MAKING EXCUSES FOR MEN TO KEEP ON BEATING THEIR WIVES AND ABUSING THEIR CHILDREN.

    men have to learn to bend...lest they break....with constant rejection!!!

  10. #20
    xinevirtucio are you running for any elective office? I will vote for you! bravo!!!

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