Can we serve GOD, Personally?

[Existanz]

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authority diay na ni St. Paul when he said those words? i don't think so...Paul even admitted that he is rude in speech.

2Co 11:6 But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

dili na sa authority bro. nagpakita lang nga tawo pud si St. Paul pareha nato, madala sa weakness and i believe that is one of his weakness.

2Co 11:30 If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities.

how about you bro? wala jud ka nakasulti ug "foolish" sa imong fellow Christians?

See, you just admitted it to your self that nothing in the previous verses you give to me implies an explicitly that we should call our fellow Christians 'fools' when we want to straightened them.

Yes, I understand emotion rise up in every man for I am also guilty with such in most occasion. But despite that human weakness we don't have any justification at all to make that a habit, most specially labeling other brothers as 'fools' and making it a principle for spreading Christ love and forgiveness.

Pein I don't need to label my fellow brothers whatever their actions, their words and action speak it for themselves. As for you, just read what the other istoryans is posting about your community's ways.

Rom 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.




Lastly Bro, since its for the third time I've been demanding from you and not one did you give me verse that explicitly teaches us to label or call our fellow Christian 'fools', I take that you don't have none to give.

I'll give one that explicitly commands us what to do in such occasion of discourse, without any doubt that would leave further questioning:

1Pe 3:16 But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak evil of your good conduct in Christ will be ashamed of slandering you.

and if I may just add up:

1Pe 2:23 When he (Christ) was insulted, he did not retaliate. When he suffered, he did not threaten but made it his habit to commit the matter to the one who judges fairly.


With this I end my inquiry and I pray that your community may grow in strength with Christ' love and peace and Glorify His name.


God bless Bro. Pien

[Pein]

See, you just admitted it to your self that nothing in the previous verses you give to me implies an explicitly that we should call our fellow Christians 'fools' when we want to straightened them.

Yes, I understand emotion rise up in every man for I am also guilty with such in most occasion. But despite that human weakness we don't have any justification at all to make that a habit, most specially labeling other brothers as 'fools' and making it a principle for spreading Christ love and forgiveness.

Pein I don't need to label my fellow brothers whatever their actions, their words and action speak it for themselves. As for you, just read what the other istoryans is posting about your community's ways.

Rom 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Lastly Bro, since its for the third time I've been demanding from you and not one did you give me verse that explicitly teaches us to label or call our fellow Christian 'fools', I take that you don't have none to give.

I'll give one that explicitly commands us what to do in such occasion of discourse, without any doubt that would leave further questioning:

1Pe 3:16 But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak evil of your good conduct in Christ will be ashamed of slandering you.

and if I may just add up:

1Pe 2:23 When he (Christ) was insulted, he did not retaliate. When he suffered, he did not threaten but made it his habit to commit the matter to the one who judges fairly.

With this I end my inquiry and I pray that your community may grow in strength with Christ' love and peace and Glorify His name.

God bless Bro. Pien

mangutana ko nimo bro, kani bang akong kaistorya diri my fellow Christians?

pwede ko mangutana sa denomination nimo bro para makahibaw ko kung fellow Christian ba taka?

[Pein]

@Existanz,

naghuwat ko sa reply nimo bro 3:09am na intawn diri...

[Existanz]

pwede ko mangutana sa denomination nimo bro para makahibaw ko kung fellow Christian ba taka?

By definition I am fundamentalist Christian, in a sense, since I adhere to follow Christ teachings (or die trying). I believe Christ is and was God (and everything that we believe what is Christ that binds Christianity together in principle).

On the surface I may have a denomination since family and society requires us to have, so that I can function normally (if that is what it meant to be normal in this world). I try to live in-aunthentically for the peace of my family and the community where I am. In doing so I may contribute to their well-being and peace of mind, and be at peace with them.

But God knows that if have to chose otherwise freely, without hurting anybody, I would opt not to belong any denomination or religion. Not that I hate such institution or movement, it's just that I find or sense they lack something I'm looking for, that is- to live Christ teachings authentically because in my own understanding it is the right philosophy to follow and worth dying for.

Despite that, I on some occasion attend Born Again Christian gatherings, because my closest friends are all in there and on the other hand I went to Catholic Church because my wife is a Catholic- devout one. I did rosary even though I didn't have much to think about whats it's all about, simply because I want my wife to be happy. If it makes my friends happy I'm happy and if my wife is happy- what more a husband wants?

[Pein]

@Existanz.

ugma nalang ta magtiwas ani bro matulog sa ko dugaya pud nimo mutubag oi gaduka nako...i post lang diri ang imong tubag ugma nalang nako basahon...

God bless you...

[Pein]

By definition I am fundamentalist Christian, in a sense, since I adhere to follow Christ teachings (or die trying). I believe Christ is and was God (and everything that we believe what is Christ that binds Christianity together in principle).

On the surface I may have a denomination since family and society requires us to have, so that I can function normally (if that is what it meant to be normal in this world). I try to live in-aunthentically for the peace of my family and the community where I am. In doing so I may contribute to their well-being and peace of mind, and be at peace with them.

But God knows that if have to chose otherwise freely, without hurting anybody, I would opt not to belong any denomination or religion. Not that I hate such institution or movement, it's just that I find or sense they lack something I'm looking for, that is- to live Christ teachings authentically because in my own understanding it is the right philosophy to follow and worth dying for.

Despite that, I on some occasion attend Born Again Christian gatherings, because my closest friends are all in there and on the other hand I went to Catholic Church because my wife is a Catholic- devout one. I did rosary even though I didn't have much to think about whats it's all about, simply because I want my wife to be happy. If it makes my friends happy I'm happy and if my wife is happy- what more a husband wants?

im sorry to say this but you are not a Christian. and you are not my brother in Christ. doing the rosary is not a Christian teaching nga imong balik balikon imong pag ampo...

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

wala ka nakabasa ana bro?

[Existanz]

@Existanz,

naghuwat ko sa reply nimo bro 3:09am na intawn diri...

Ay, Pien sorry jud kaayo..I'm in the middle of work hehehe..pandamay gahulat man diay. Ga-ronda ronda ning among visor diri hehehe..okay last na ni nato kay baka di nako kareply ug dali ani..

Thanks Pien for replying, you're such a good Christian..in my opinion. You fight a good fight and for a good cause.

[Pein]

Ay, Pien sorry jud kaayo..I'm in the middle of work hehehe..pandamay gahulat man diay. Ga-ronda ronda ning among visor diri hehehe..okay last na ni nato kay baka di nako kareply ug dali ani..

Thanks Pien for replying, you're such a good Christian..in my opinion. You fight a good fight and for a good cause.

cge bro matulog sa ko kay mag 4am na diri...next time napud.

may God bless you bro...

[kebotDiNaMute]

hmmm. both of you serving your purpose not God. Using Bible in the same context as christian faith is supposed to encourage.

(1 Thessalonians 3:2 NIV) We sent Timothy, who is our brother and God's fellow worker in spreading the gospel of Christ, to strengthen and encourage you in your faith,

(1 Thessalonians 4:18 NIV) Therefore encourage each other with these words.

(1 Thessalonians 5:11 NIV) Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

(Philemon 1:7 NIV) Your love has given me great joy and encouragement, because you, brother, have refreshed the hearts of the saints.

(Hebrews 3:13 NIV) But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness.

(Hebrews 10:25 NIV) Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another--and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

(Matthew 11:28-30 NIV) "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. {29} Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. {30} For my yoke is easy and my burden is light."

(Galatians 6:2 NIV) Carry each other's burd`ens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.


I am sorry guys, but you are doing it wrong! all i can do is remind you... and I cannot force you. You guys made your point but sad to say none of you can claim who are RIGHT. Yes of course we need people to rebuke of us of what we are doing is wrong... but we cannot push that far because even though its wrong in the eyes of the believers, believing in God doesn't take away the fact that we are given the freewill to do things and Yes we are bound by his rules, you cannot save other person's life... save your own. In the spirit of love it is good to know somebody rebuke us so we might be able to consider other things that are pleasing to him.

My appeal to you guys is to stop fighting the context it will do you no good... Hence your goal is to praise the HIM in the MOST HIGH.

Good day!

[Existanz]

cge bro matulog sa ko kay mag 4am na diri...next time napud.

may God bless you bro...

Goodnight and God bless too.

(12:40 am pa lang diri hehehe, lugi jud ka..)