Karma and Reincarnation.

[Malic]

Mura'g irreconcilable jud ang Christianity og ang belief sa reincarnation. And I don't think the Church Fathers taught reincarnation. They're considered Church Fathers precisely because isa sila sa mga nag-contribute sa pagsabot sa doctrines sa early Church, and the present Church draw their essential teachings from them. So it's quite impossible that they would teach reincarnation.

Some Gnostic Christians take reincarnation as part of their belief. I already posted the names of the Church Fathers that taught the belief of reincarnation during their lifetime.

Dili ba naa'y duha ka version sa belief sa reincarnation? I read it somewhere nga there are those daw who believe that a person can only reincarnate as another person and not into "lower" kinds of life forms like animals or insects, while there are also those who believe that a man can reincarnate into those life forms.

I think the problem with the latter view is that animals and insects are not moral agents, they're not capable of making morally right or wrong acts, so how can the law of karma operate in such a situation? How can they do good deeds in order to merit good karma in the next life?

Also, don't reincarnation justify poverty and other social ills in society? In India for example, won't a Hindu interfere with his or her own "karma" if he helps those who belong to a lower caste and are therefore suffering from hunger or injustice? It seems that, from his view, people suffer because they deserved it for the bad things they committed in the previous life.

Sir flying fish already gave the belief structure of the two schools. But I wanted to add something. The only way for the Soul born in the lower plane of existence to acquire liberation and reincarnate in the human form is by the mercy of the Saints, Siddhas,and Bodhisattva. Well, thats according to a certain sect, Vaisnava school.

If one understands the law of Karma, he will be more than willing to help anyone in need. I don't think hindus think that way.

[Malic]

Things to take note so you can acquire a better view of the law of Karma and reincarnation.

-We are not this Body and everything that is attached to it, like- name, occupation, race.
-We are eternal Soul. We have no death.
-This Soul as it identifies with the body accumulates materialistic thoughts. and the more he attached himself with his physical existence the more dense his views and habit becomes.

- As this Soul travels in this physical plane he engages himself with karmic activities. because of that the Soul reincarnates again to express his accumulated karmic points so to speak.

[Pein]

wala jud koy nakitang hustisya aning doktrina about reincarnation. kay ngano? unsaon naman lamang tong mga tawo nga wala nakabaton ug hustisya aning kalibutana? unsaon naman lamang tong mga tawo nga naagrabyado? mga tawo nga gipatay, mga bata nga gi rape, gi salvage etc...unsaon man nila pagbaton sa hustisya? i reincarnate silag balik? is that justice?

pwede sad abusuhon ning doktrinaha. pwede raman diay ma reincarnate edi dili nalang ko mahadlok mubuhat ug dautan total mo reincarnate raman gihapon ko bahalag karma as long as ma reincarnate until mabatunan nako ang perfection...is that justice?

cge tubaga sa daw na ninyo...

[Homo_quaeritans]

The of Law of Karma and Reincarnation, perfect Cosmic Justice.

Every single thought and Action earns an equal Reward or Consequence. You do bad today you are going to reap it later on in this life or in the next life. For the sake of simplification, if you are a thief today in your next life something special will be stolen away from you.

[WengIA]

karma nuon tuo ko pero reincarnation murag lisod tuohan..

[Pein]

The of Law of Karma and Reincarnation, perfect Cosmic Justice.

Every single thought and Action earns an equal Reward or Consequence. You do bad today you are going to reap it later on in this life or in the next life. For the sake of simplification, if you are a thief today in your next life something special will be stolen away from you.

dili gihapon na matawag nga justice kay wala man nimo mabayri imong sala sa tawo nga imong nasad an take for example kanang imong giingon nga kawatan. is that justice sa next life mawad an ka? thats not justice. ang hustisya, ikaw nga nangawat imong bayran ang imong sala sa tawo nga imong gikawatan pud dili kay sa laing tawo....

hahayz common sense raman intawn ni oi...

[Homo_quaeritans]

dili gihapon na matawag nga justice kay wala man nimo mabayri imong sala sa tawo nga imong nasad an take for example kanang imong giingon nga kawatan. is that justice sa next life mawad an ka? thats not justice. ang hustisya, ikaw nga nangawat imong bayran ang imong sala sa tawo nga imong gikawatan pud dili kay sa laing tawo....

hahayz common sense raman intawn ni oi...

Yes that is justice. Both examples can be said as the hand of Justice working in different level.

[Homo_quaeritans]

dili gihapon na matawag nga justice kay wala man nimo mabayri imong sala sa tawo nga imong nasad an take for example kanang imong giingon nga kawatan. is that justice sa next life mawad an ka? thats not justice. ang hustisya, ikaw nga nangawat imong bayran ang imong sala sa tawo nga imong gikawatan pud dili kay sa laing tawo....

hahayz common sense raman intawn ni oi...

mabaw ka og comprehension, sorry but mao kana ang tinood.

[Pein]

Yes that is justice. Both examples can be said as the hand of Justice working in different level.

mabaw ka og comprehension, sorry but mao kana ang tinood.

hahay ang hustisya ninyo lisod jud katuuhan...kung kawatan ka karon sa next life mawagtangan ka? unsa na fairy tales?

dili na justice oi...hadlok lang jud mo ug eternal damnation maong nag imbento mog reincarnation...

tsk tsk tsk!

[Homo_quaeritans]

hahay ang hustisya ninyo lisod jud katuuhan...kung kawatan ka karon sa next life mawagtangan ka? unsa na fairy tales?

dili na justice oi...hadlok lang jud mo ug eternal damnation maong nag imbento mog reincarnation...

tsk tsk tsk!

eternal damnation is evil.