Camp Lapu-Lapu transfer, nearing...

[cdburgh]

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Mura'g wala man sad gyud na ma-interesan ni Tomas ang Camp LapuLapu.

dili na lang gyud ta na hilabtan ang camp lapulapu kay kung sa pamilya pa, murag ancestral home kay dugay na kaayo na ang military diha. daghan na kaayo ta mga buildings/commercial complex, usikan gyud ko sa mga trees and open space sa parade ground sa kampo. maka-help gyud ang mga trees reduce flash flood. mas maayo gani if they can disperse the development sa other areas para dili ta magpundok mga tawo. kung naay illegal squatters, kana lang ta ilang i-resolve.

[salbahis]

kanang mga reserve2x nga yuta, mango reserve, timber lands, ethnic reserve, watershed, etc. that's all BULL. Basta ma-tripan gani na ni Tongressman, paspas pa sa kidlat ang pagpa-convert sa classification sa yuta unya pa-titulohan dayon, unya ibaligya.

sure.... taga canjulao or looc ka?, kay ako nagpuyo ko duol sa navforcen sweto ko anang lugara.... tubigan-kabatoan-lapukon tawn na diha diha tawn mo maligo sa una........ the NAVY only reclaim a part of it...

[LytSlpr]

dili na lang gyud ta na hilabtan ang camp lapulapu kay kung sa pamilya pa, murag ancestral home kay dugay na kaayo na ang military diha. daghan na kaayo ta mga buildings/commercial complex, usikan gyud ko sa mga trees and open space sa parade ground sa kampo. maka-help gyud ang mga trees reduce flash flood. mas maayo gani if they can disperse the development sa other areas para dili ta magpundok mga tawo. kung naay illegal squatters, kana lang ta ilang i-resolve.

If the Garcias will be able to successfully sell Camp LapuLapu to the Ayalas, I believe they will still maintain it. That's the Ayala style of development. Nature, culture etc. Take note that the Ayalas own a museum.

On another note, I am in favor of developing Camp LapuLapu for the following reasons:

1] it is on a very accessible and strategic prime lot
2] it will generate revenue and commerce
3] it will create jobs
4] it will be an alternative route to banilad, salinas drive, nivel hills, etc.
5] a camp is not needed in the heart of the city and can be set up somewhere else.

OK ra man i-masyar ni Gwen ang Kampo sa mga Ayala di lang unta siya maghinipokrito because we all know it's just business.

[elvandesantos]

how about the squatters there? criminals/badlongon or not they are still human beings and deserve a descent home.. politics is all about that. babagan gyud na ni osmena kay luoy au ang mga tao dra. besides that, it generates a good vote. dili ka basta2x ug developed ang tga ayala ky dili mn sila i-grant ug business permit if d gyud gus2 si mayor tom.

[gikapoy]

removing camp lapu in their area wont make a difference

[cebulifer]

well... maybe that's why gwen will be supporting the opposition for cebu city mayor. kay kung kadaug iyang manok... wa na'y mubabag sa mga plano ni gwen!

hahay politics.

[giddyboy]

Apas families fight transfer
Sunday, October 11, 2009

AT LEAST 200 barangay officials and residents of Apas, Cebu City held a prayer vigil last night in front of the Central Command (Centcom) gate to protest the impending signing of an agreement to return the military camp’s lot back to the Capitol.

Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia and Defense Secretary Gilberto Teodoro are set to sign the agreement at 10:30 a.m. today, the governor’s 54th birthday.

During their vigil, the group also sang a birthday song while holding a chocolate cake they intend to give the governor.

Leaders of different homeowners’ associations joined the vigil, as did a surprise guest, Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña, who stayed for about 15 minutes.

“We will wage battle for you. This has always been our stand,” the mayor told the participants last night. “Sad to say, there is a presidential proclamation that is not being enforced.”

He referred to the declaration of parts of Apas as socialized housing sites.

The residents fear displacement. Apas officials said the camp was instrumental in the creation of the barangay so that the National Government should not allow its transfer.

Bearing candles, the residents prayed that Teodoro will not sign the memorandum of agreement (MOA).

Interviewed separately, Governor Garcia said she hoped the people will also pray for their own “enlightenment.”

She assured that the Capitol will take care of Centcom’s informal settlers. She earlier explained that just like the beneficiaries of the Ordinance 93-1 lots, no one will be left without a roof over his head.

full article:
Apas families fight transfer | Sun.Star Network Online

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Editorial: Politicizing the Apas issue
Monday, October 12, 2009

POLITICIZING conflicts is never good for those directly involved in them, and this has been proven many times in the long-running “war” between Capitol and Cebu City Hall.

That’s why residents of Barangay Apas should think many times over before joining actions that could instead complicate the problem involving their status as settlers of the area surrounding Camp Lapulapu.

More so at this stage when Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia and Mayor Tomas Osmeña are both running in the 2010 elections, the governor for reelection and the mayor for congressman in the city’s south district.

Apas barangay officials, for example, may be honest in their intention of helping the homeowners, but it is difficult to differentiate actions borne of genuine sympathy with those that are a result of their political association with the mayor.

Negotiation

Recent moves protesting the signing by the governor and Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro of the memorandum of agreement returning the Central Command lot to the Province were perfectly within the Apas resident’s rights.

But the nobility of purpose may have been affected by Osmeña surfacing in one of these protest actions spewing the same anti-Capitol rhetoric that has made the resolution of the Capitol-City Hall row difficult.

In fairness to the mayor, his constant sniping at the governor regarding Province-owned land subject to socialized housing under Ordinance 93-1 not only popularized the issue but may have also forced Capitol to reconsider previous plans for the lots.

But Apas residents must realize that hard-line tactics can only go so far and that in many instances, conflicts are resolved after honest negotiations.

Discernment

One proof of this is the recent conflict between Capitol consultant Byron Garcia and minibus operators sparked by the new policies that the former implemented at the Cebu South Bus Terminal.

Byron’s hard-line stance didn’t go anywhere and only prompted the minibus operators to seek the help of Cebu City Hall, whose officials gladly used the issue to fuel the Capitol-City Hall row.

While the move of the minibus operators may have rattled Capitol, or at the very least made it realize the negative consequences of its actions, the problem would not have been settled had they allowed the issue to be politicized.

Capitol’s decision to review some of the bus terminal’s new policies was a result of the minibus operators finally talking things over with the governor.

In a politically charged setup, Apas residents must learn to discern when their desire to get full ownership of the lots they are occupying is being genuinely pursued and when that same desire is being politicized.

source:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/edito...ing-apas-issue

[LytSlpr]

@giddyboy:

so what's your personal take on this? i'm curious...

[kurakot]

@giddyboy:

so what's your personal take on this? i'm curious...

Personal take nako ani? Any initiatives from the Osmeñas the Garcias will go all out against it and vice versa! Magbuno na lang na sila uy! Mga tawo ray makalolooy sa ilang kabuang!

[giddyboy]

@giddyboy:

so what's your personal take on this? i'm curious...

I share the same opinion from the editorial...POLITICIZING conflicts is never good for those directly involved in them.

Bus terminal issue - if politicized, ang mapiit, mga constituents.

The CCMC issue - kung gidayon pa ni Tomas tungod sa away nila ni Gwen nga dili na mka avail ang taga probincya sa hospital services (meaning, if politicized), ang mapiit, mga constituents.

Camp Lapulapu transfer - if politicized, ang mapiit, mga constituents.

the cartographic illustration by the editorial simplifies it...