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  1. #231

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    no no no ako pasabot ato sir is the scholars that translated the NIV is honest enough to put in their footnote that the phrase " son of god " written at the beginning of the book is not found in the old manuscripts kung asa gi base ang ilang NIV version of the bible.

    qur'an MAYBE lacking. if you can't prove it then your accusation remains an accusation.
    Is it not the error of translation? hmmm. I wonder. so koran is better? aw!

  2. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    masterjanuarius...

    The one on this particular thread sitting on the witness stand is the bible and not the Qur'an. Distracting the attention of the Jurors away from the testimony of the witness so you can insist your insincere defense of the authenticity of the bible and bring into question the Reliability of the Qur'an w/c is by far considered by historians as more reliable and accurate than the bible can not give justice to your apologetics.

    I will not defend. I already have stated my intentions in my previous post as to why it is so.

    Im done w/ this ignorance - " my bible is better than your Qur'an. "

    have a nice day.
    Good that I am not a fanatic and I don't cry "blasphemy" when a non christian put into question my Holy Book, and Jesus Christ .. how I wish I can do the same with your Holy Book TS, without suffering the consequences like that of Salman Rushdie of England, and he is even a muslim. I still wish you respect my religion and my belief in Jesus Christ, even if it does not agree with yours, sir. I rest my case.

  3. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by masterjanuarius View Post
    The NIV may present itself as a scholarly work, banking on the number of translators and a wide range of bible texts and books available, with the different Qumran documents .. but TS has forgotten that the NIV is not the sole Bible that all christians should read and study .. there are many translations of the Bible which abounds and are very available .. a footnote on the bottom of the page of NIV about, "Son of God" in the ch1, v.1 of Mark is more for a literary reference and not an infallible truth as it may seems TS has an inkling .. the beauty of the Bible is found in the many translations available and thereby the capacity to compare one and the other in order to get the real sense of a given text .. of which the Qur'an maybe lacking since all the other written copies of the Qur'an were burned by a caliph (Omar was it?) so that only one copy becomes official ..
    Good information there Masterjanuarius...wapakk!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterjanuarius View Post
    Good that I am not a fanatic and I don't cry "blasphemy" when a non christian put into question my Holy Book, and Jesus Christ .. how I wish I can do the same with your Holy Book TS, without suffering the consequences like that of Salman Rushdie of England, and he is even a muslim. I still wish you respect my religion and my belief in Jesus Christ, even if it does not agree with yours, sir. I rest my case.
    Why? are you being hunted right now?

    In Luzon, debates are conducted every now and then, Islam against other religion. So far nobody is being shot at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Why? are you being hunted right now?

    In Luzon, debates are conducted every now and then, Islam against other religion. So far nobody is being shot at.
    Not yet, but you declared your self a TERRORIST. "TERROR". hmmm. no shots fired... but bombs always exploded... i think bullets is obsolete... all we can do on the other faith is wait for you to go BOOM. To bad, potential is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Good information there Masterjanuarius...wapakk!!
    nice information? yeah..only that it didnt hit the target. I pointed out, that there are manuscripts where you cannot find the phrase son of god. Manuscripts not the bible versions. and versions of the bible are based on thousands of manuscripts.

    let me give you an idea...

    say,they want to make another bible version. These scholars would gather all the reliable manuscripts existing today. then they will compare each of them, because out of thousands not one of them are identical, some contained incomplete information, so what they do is, they will try to the best of their ability to pick a certain words or phrase to fill up the gaps.

    now here is the problem...Christians pronounced the bible as the infallible word of God. The question is, Is a man- structured- word be considered the word of God?

    why would you put the phrase son of god when it is not found in the old manuscripts?

    Masterjanuarius missed those points. he kept on mentioning the different translations and how the footnote is not an infallible word. of course it is not, thats why we find it in the footnote, so I ask why is it there in the main page of the book, where people can mistook it as part of God's word?


    but don't answer that, its just my thoughts.
    Last edited by Malic; 08-17-2009 at 03:57 PM.

  7. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    sure ko pein.
    so ang Wisdom of God diay tong nag istorya sa Proverbs chapter 8 noh?

    sunod pangutana: kinsa man diay ang Wisdom of God?

    hmmmmmmmmmm...

  8. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    kinsa man diay ang Wisdom of God?
    siyempre, eh di si Brad Eli Soriano!!! alien? alien!!!

    God bless you, pein.

  9. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Good information there Masterjanuarius...wapakk!!
    yep, good information, maayo imo bro. wapakk!! lang uban ani KABOOM!!

    it should be bomb, wala lang

  10. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    why would you put the phrase son of god when it is not found in the old manuscripts?
    “When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. I will be his Father, and he shall be My son.” (II Samuel 7:12-14)

    I will be his Father, and he shall be My son; and I will not take My mercy away from him, as I took it from him who was before you.” (I Chronicles 17:13)

    “these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.” (John 20:31)

    Brad ayaw palabi og storyag bakak, kay murag imo pagka sweto is going nowhere murag ignorance ni or arrogance. Maybe you want the phrase and u are not using common sense. Brad if your Logic Fails you then it fails you BIG BIG BIG TIME. Might as well, see a doctor before it gets worse...

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