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[guilliam]

Dba mao mana na issue saona? Katong Bobbit, Piko and Peter Kim as the same a**hole with multiple accounts selling inbred dogs with defects?

Where the hell is he?

Haven't seen any of his threads after he was ratted out as a swindler and a puppy-miller...

yup its the same person/group right on the primary posts on this same thread. i guess as posted here :

https://www.istorya.net/forums/pets/1...ml#post5341693

is this the same group? curios ra sad ko

- g

[rusty18]

mao ba sad ning naa sa istorya na BOBIT man tingali ang username. pls clarify.
ang akoa ra ma say ani; ang parents(sire and dam) nga mag igsoon; okay ra man to mate it with each other as long as different litter batch. if its of the same litter batch; thats a BIG NO NO. same litter batch that would most of the time results to abnormalities. kay if you define an established "bloodline" you would see that breeders does IN-LINE breeding for the purpose of concentrating the bloodline of their breeding "STACK". thus their STACK would have the same features, temperament; etc carried to the progeny. so for me; if same litter batch or littermates ang parents then thats a clear sign of irresponsible dog breeding. if inline or sibling from same parents but of different litter batch oks ra na. this is on the concern about the "mag igsoon ang parents".

at anyrate; what i am more concern with is that; when the breeder offered you the puppy; being a breeder they should be aware of its faults or health conditions. specially also physical conditions that the puppy even at a young age would manifest like blindness, deaf, monorchidism(one ball or to some no ball at all), hernias, limp or leg disability, HD, etc. if you are a responsible breeder you should tell the new owners about this. which in the case above; it appears to me that its all about the profit. tsk tsk tsk.

my two cents...

can you give us a link of the istoryan of the seller's profile so that we could be aware of him/her?
would appreciate also if you can give him/her a pm about this post so that we could probably hear his/her side or story if there are any. thanks.

- g

thanks so much! this is indeed very helpful and informative. i can't imagine mag-igsoon i-breed (litter batchmates). i see my dogs as humans ra pud and it's not surprising nga naay abnormalities ang ilang puppies kung ingon-ana man gani. tsk tsk

kakuyaw pud diay anang mga tawhana...pero opinion lang nko about sa breeding specifically inbreeding bah...okay raman na basta quality ang manggawas...usually ang safe na inbreed kay ang father and daughter, mother and son kay less ang defects kaayo pero ang brother sisiter mating..murag daghan gyud recessive genes na defects manggawas ana...pero unta lang bah sa mga sellers if ever naay defects ang ila gisell unta honest pod cla sa buyers nila kay louy bya pinaghirapan ang kwarta nya iladon ra dba?unta pud ang mga buyers dapat pud di magtinihik ug palit sa quality dogs they desired kay kung sa reputable breeder mo mupalit na gigastohan gyud na nila para mamaintain ang health sa ila dogs na gibreed..dba?just my 2 cents hehe medyo taas sah...

thanks for the info. so is it safe to say that father-daughter, mother-son is as OKAY as non-related male-female? or still not a guarantee nga walay abnormalities? i'd like to know what's the most common practice among the reputable breeders...?

[guilliam]

thanks so much! this is indeed very helpful and informative. i can't imagine mag-igsoon i-breed (litter batchmates). i see my dogs as humans ra pud and it's not surprising nga naay abnormalities ang ilang puppies kung ingon-ana man gani. tsk tsk



thanks for the info. so is it safe to say that father-daughter, mother-son is as OKAY as non-related male-female? or still not a guarantee nga walay abnormalities? i'd like to know what's the most common practice among the reputable breeders...?

in-line breeding; most common is father-daughter/mother-son avoid at great gravity siblings of different litterbatch. insane if of the same litter batch.

abut abnormalities; lesser chances if inline with descendant to ascendant compared to same line or of same generation.

in-line breeding with descendant X ascendant are commonly done with a very good quality "breeding stack". this is where or how the term "bloodline" in dogs is tagged. 3 generations repeat in-lined to the same ascendant.

at anyrate, check the first few pages on this thread; the BOBIT username was mentioned (bobit, peter kim piko etc.)

- g

[clairee18]

up . .
for others to be aware, not only to this seller but be aware when buying from anyone. .

-jackal

[charles of lawaan]

Dba mao mana na issue saona? Katong Bobbit, Piko and Peter Kim as the same a**hole with multiple accounts selling inbred dogs with defects?

Where the hell is he?

Haven't seen any of his threads after he was ratted out as a swindler and a puppy-miller...

active gihapon ila thread diri brod..with different username, but same style!

[edgeowns]

Isnt piko the guy who was selling that GSD for 50k more or less?

[motchkatt]

wow... grabeha makada ug presyo sah? these jacka**es really are something, huh?

[guilliam]

Isnt piko the guy who was selling that GSD for 50k more or less?

last time i read a post from piko was 18.5k 6 months male GSD. and i think 19k GSD puppies. i asked details and info(was interested); no proper reply was given. next time he posted about the puppies all are sold already

- g

[dr.dymski]

??tsktsktsk

[lerrie]

in-line breeding; most common is father-daughter/mother-son avoid at great gravity siblings of different litterbatch. insane if of the same litter batch.

abut abnormalities; lesser chances if inline with descendant to ascendant compared to same line or of same generation.

in-line breeding with descendant X ascendant are commonly done with a very good quality "breeding stack". this is where or how the term "bloodline" in dogs is tagged. 3 generations repeat in-lined to the same ascendant.

at anyrate, check the first few pages on this thread; the BOBIT username was mentioned (bobit, peter kim piko etc.)

- g

very well said sir guilliam...hehe ruty18, there u have it...u got ur answer!