MERGED: UNO Discussion (pros and cons)

[AmorsoloX]

hmm.. i agree nga puro nlang negative...

I would stress out that UNO IS NOT A SCAM!.. its a legit business.. it looks like a SCAM coz dghan kaau members CGE NLANG RECRUIT and WALA SELL.... its a technical loophole (but if you look at it in general, mkaingon ka nga scam) the fact that UNO is like a Scam is due to the practice of its members doing business through deception and misinformation... kanang kidnap strategy and kanang pakita2x (fake daw) tseke

bro.. dont worry. this thread is a place to share your thoughts.. whatever you say, good or bad is for the benifit of all..

im the one the UNO people are angry with.. hehehe
im happy that what i wrote here have an impact...

"the hottest places in hell are reserved for those persons who in time of great moral crisis maintain their neutrality"-John Maxwell

[cirext]

why uno is a scam?

2 things to ponder..

1. if they really makes all their members rich their office wouldn't be as small as it is right now.. more members needs bigger space.. just like all business does.. expand..

2. if they really makes all their members rich probably all millionaires right now are networkers.. do you know someone? EXACTLY?

think about it.. before my cousin works on a networking business namely 1st quadrant.. he claimed that he earned thousands every week, every time he conducts this seminar or orientation sa mga interesado.. and i found out nga tanan tseke nya were not true.. and na proved nako coz katong wa pa xa mo larga Singapore i asked him nganu mo larga man ka? nindot man kaha imo work (since iya work kay networking ra jud) he answered.. impossible kaau madato ko ani ako trabaho.. see? unya mag uno pamo? hahaha..

Im not Pro-UNO, but on the merits of the points shown.
These arguments doesn't prove to its point.
Simply because these are not reasons to prove that it is a scam.
1. Having a small office (which i see is big actually) doesn't mean the company is already a scam.
2. Because not all members get rich, would u call it a scam?

Im not sure if UNO is a scam.... until it would be proven.
What I believe from the presentations shown & based on personal analysis is that:
1. This is NOT A GOOD BUSINESS for new intakes.
2. You can't expect any long-term career on this one.
3. This is simply money-making & nothing more than that.
4. It's a shallow business. There's nothing ahead of it.

A company needs to have a cause far more that getting money from anybody.
And that cause should be at the heart, the driving force of anybody connected w/ the company.
This determines the longevity of any business.

To illustrate, let me just give this example:
If i'll be the one to make the Mission of UNO-Cebu, (as I see it) it would state like this:
"To give income opportunities by creating the biggest network of young & dynamic entrepreneurs that would push a new but promising product into the Cebu market."

Y not, have this mission instead?
"To give the best products of high value to Cebuanos at the most reasonable price that would benefit them primarily, and to educate the consumers by creating a core of professional entrepreneurs."

There's nothing wrong in the 1st mission statement, unless if you investigate it carefully...it really is a selfish mission...aiming to improve the pockets more than giving a good product & service to the consumers.

It would be better if UNO is seen overcrowded because of the influx of consumers than seeing a crowd of recruiters & recruits.

[AmorsoloX]

i agree with bro cirext..

is somebody here familiar with NLP? (Neuro-Linguistic Programming)

the first mission sounds like its purpose was to give a money-making activity not encouraging responsible entrepreneurship

i like the second one professional kaau paminawon

and also

it would be really great to see lots of consumers instead of lots of recruiters n recruits..

[lorenzoleo]

It would be better if UNO is seen overcrowded because of the influx of consumers than seeing a crowd of recruiters & recruits.

<-- This is the real business mindsetting. Hehehe! Kudos bro. It would be also great if they inculcate discipline and leadership during their meetings aside from always talking income2x. Inject also the 7 habits of Effective person.

YouTube - Anti-Pyramiding Video <-- This is very informative video from DSAP. The difference between a pyramid and network marketing business.

Purpose of Recruit:
In Legitimate network Marketing business
1.) Increase sales volume, commission and overrides must be from products that is sold by the recruits only, not in membership

In pyramiding
1.) earning income more on recruits sometimes you don't have to sell anything.

I hope this video can educate more people the difference between A Legitimate networking business VS a pyramiding business.

[terces]

kanang mga networking nga daghan kaayo tawo, kuyawan ta ana kay mga tawo ra nagdaghan. meaning sige ug recruit.

2 ra man gud na ang meaning kung gitapuk-an ang usa sa business (traditional or Networking),
It's either Good things are happening or Bad things are happening. Now for you to know it, adtua gyud. Maayo ang gibuhat ni bro john_dux kay niadto sya para mag-observe. You have to look gyud on both sides dili kay niadto ka para lang mangita ug buslot. If we'll try to look at it, wala baya ta gihilabtan sa taga U**, nanginabuhi na sila ug ilaha. Now if naa gyud moy pruweba nga SCAM sila all we can do is to WARN our friends para dili sila magmahay.

[terces]

grabi. wala na ko kadungog ug positive sa uno puro na lang negative. pero unsaon taman na naa man sd mga punto. d na lang ko mo share sa ako ky basin daghan nya masuko nako. hahaha...

Bai, mas maayo if imo na ishare.... wala may masuko, kung tinuod gyud ng imong gisulti, di ba? Bahala na ang mga makabasa magdecide kung motuo sila or dili, la ta kabalo basin naay ma-enlighten sa imong ipost.

[kolot182]

Bai, mas maayo if imo na ishare.... wala may masuko, kung tinuod gyud ng imong gisulti, di ba? Bahala na ang mga makabasa magdecide kung motuo sila or dili, la ta kabalo basin naay ma-enlighten sa imong ipost.

haha... dili naman sd kinahanglan ky nasulti naman tanan sa uban. hehe.. ako gitan-aw ang video. naa na sd ko na learn. para ma clear jud tanan dapat ipa imbistigar ninyo sa dsap. nya ibalita ninyo ang resulta sa invistgation. para mahibaw.an na jud kung unsa ang tinuod bah. hehe..

[entrepreneur21]

scam? if scam pa ni obvious kau na dra oh naa sa capitol....open almost 24Hrs a day 7 days a week...let the authorities/government decide not the smart alecs who have hidden agenda,vested self-interests, who are connected with certain companies etc, these pipz are the ones who are aggressive in putting down other companies for the benefit of their company, the most qualified people who can make comments about UNO, whether good or bad, are those people who have no vested self interests,pipz who are not connected with a competitor(MLM company), pipz who are here just to put down UNO or other MLM companies should just focus on their businesses...even Richard King believes in MLM...Binary man japon nang Vital C...

[lorenzoleo]

scam? if scam pa ni obvious kau na dra oh naa sa capitol....open almost 24Hrs a day 7 days a week...let the authorities/government decide not the smart alecs who have hidden agenda,vested self-interests, who are connected with certain companies etc, these pipz are the ones who are aggressive in putting down other companies for the benefit of their company, the most qualified people who can make comments about UNO, whether good or bad, are those people who have no vested self interests,pipz who are not connected with a competitor(MLM company), pipz who are here just to put down UNO or other MLM companies should just focus on their businesses...even Richard King believes in MLM...Binary man japon nang Vital C...

Dili sad ta maka blame ngano negative na kaayo mga tao about ani mga butanga kay tungud sad mga past expriences sauna, same ra man gud gihapon ang style sa pag present ug ang system na gigamit. Ang mga leaders sad the same ra sad gihapon. Sounds family na kaayo ba. Dili na lang unta na ipa kita2x ang checke kay daghan na kaayo na irritated maminaw ana. Focus na lang unta more on selling the products dili focus sa recruit, dapat gani ang purpose gani para mu dako lang ang sales volume, dili unta mu income sa recruit mas kasaligan pa.

Biktima man gud akong family atong FQ, legacy kay mao lagi sobra kaayo mi ka open minded sauna. Murag wala na jud bsta makakita nakog murag pyramid na structure mu surok akong dugo. At least na educate na jud mi ani tungud sa expriences. Laliman ka gi pa member ko nila mama ug papa ato sauna bisan highschool pata para lang ma balance2x ilang leg. Samot na kung makakita tag checke sauna, maka silaw sa mata. Hehehe! Di ba tinuod? na murag ma silawan ka ug dili naka katulog kay basin mao nani na negosyo imung gi damgo?

Pero what we have learned, dili jud angay2x mag dali dali tag ka dato kay mahagba ra sad dayon. Yes, it's true maka checke jud ka diha, pero mao lagi dili long term. Naa tay kita karon kung dili sad ta kahibaw mu create ug passive income, wala ra gihapon na tanan gi kitaan diha.

Kung gusto jud mu na ma dato jud na tinuod. Tanawa ng mga prominent na mga dato diri sa Cebu, then tanawa ilang lifestyle. Hehehe! Di ba ma shocked lagi ka. I have known one kanang tagiya anang Delos Reyes optical. It so happend na siya ang usa sa among mentor. Murag dili na lagi matolog kay cge lag meeting ug larga 4:30 am ni mata na kay ni lakaw nasad kay meeting. Mga IMG pepz kaila ani niya. Maka reflect lagi ka sa imung kaugalingon, na "hala cya man gani pwerte ng dato.a kugihan man kaayo mu mata ug sayo, how about nako na ordinaryo lang ko na tao".

Kuyaw kaayo na silag mindset kay cge lag meeting. Pero kita mga empleyado ug huna2x kapoyan anang meeting2x. Kasagaran man gud kung makakita ug dato hayahay na kuno pero wala lang mu kakita sa mga buluhaton anang mga taohana. Hahaha! Dili ka kita ani nila sa mga gimik, party2x, night life. Read books about aning mga tycoons, hehehe! tanawa ang lifestyle na pwerte ng dato.a pero murag wala na sa ilang mindset ang gimik2x, party2x. You can see these people in Big conventions, mga conference.

[john_dux]

scam? if scam pa ni obvious kau na dra oh naa sa capitol....open almost 24Hrs a day 7 days a week...let the authorities/government decide not the smart alecs who have hidden agenda,vested self-interests, who are connected with certain companies etc, these pipz are the ones who are aggressive in putting down other companies for the benefit of their company, the most qualified people who can make comments about UNO, whether good or bad, are those people who have no vested self interests,pipz who are not connected with a competitor(MLM company), pipz who are here just to put down UNO or other MLM companies should just focus on their businesses...even Richard King believes in MLM...Binary man japon nang Vital C...

hmm.. ive got no interest in UNO or whatsoever.. whatever happens to UNO, will not have any affect on the performance of Vital-C.. basta ako, dako ako earnings sa vital-c.. kana, dili pa gani ko mang recruit sales alone, dako2x na pud akoa.. hehehe

vital-C has binary system.. pero dili parehas amo system sa UNO..

as i understand ha.. compare nako ang pairing bonus system

UNO
1 person distributor (left) + 1 person distributor (right) = 1000 pesos
ang system nga ani kay distributor based

Vital-C
1 box (left) + 1 box (right) = 200 pesos (maski pa dili mi magrecruit, naa ghapon mi kwarta from pairings, paspas pa jud).. thats y i like salesmen rather than recruiters..
good leaders are good salesmen..(sa amoa ang 1 distributor is equal 5 boxes he/she bought)..

amo system kay product based man... as long as me and my downlines sell (dili recruit).. maka kwarta mi for rebates,and pairings.. not to mention direct commision.

(dili hinambog, ako minimum volume sa sales kay 30 boxes a month coz dgahan ko suki... pure sales ra nah.. so i can say nga dili nako kinhanlanon mang recruit para mka kwarta)