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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmac View Post
    Bisan gi cancel na ang purchase, nothing changes. PGMA and her successors will still be indebted to the nation's oligarchs for using their jets. That was the most important point of my post. P1.2-B actually sounds cheap compared to the political debts the president incurs.
    That would be one of the problem if a public official uses a private owned jet. Para nako if the purchase is just above board wala'y overpricing and is in good quality where future presidents can benefit from it why not.

    Ako lng sab gikalibgan ni GMA, kay hambog pa siya nga mo buhat siya og butang nga maka-ayo sa nasud bsan og unpopular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmac View Post
    First of all, I did not say it was stripped of political or socio-economic "order". I said "color". In other words, I am not siding with or going against PGMA but looking at the issue apart from background noise, such as the brouhaha about excessive presidential spending.

    Bisan gi cancel na ang purchase, nothing changes. PGMA and her successors will still be indebted to the nation's oligarchs for using their jets. That was the most important point of my post. P1.2-B actually sounds cheap compared to the political debts the president incurs.

    In other countries, a high government official using a private individual's air assets even if he pays for it would be viewed as a conflict of interest.
    Ok, so it's political "color", not political "order". But it remains the same, the Office of the President now represents PGMA. Whatever it does now, it is by her and for her. They are just obliged to turn over the assets bought about by public funds to the next president. I just find it odd that they find it necessary to do purchases for her successor, not knowing who that person might even be.

    There may be countries that have presidential jets and view using a private individual's air assets as "conflict of interest". But that's a "private individual". I doubt that chartering a plane from a commercial airline and paying for it is in any way a conflict of any interests. Also, there are many heads of state that charter the planes of their national flag carrier. It's common practice. Why should the Philippines be any different? And why don't we change that culture of being "indebted"? If you paid fair price for whatever you got, no one owes anything to anyone. I doubt that PGMA is "indebted" to the Waldorf-Astoria for staying and paying for her stay there. Why would chartering a plane be any different? Not to mention there are other heads of state who do the same?

    Husto na lagi ning because the President of the USA has Air Force One, we should also have one... What? Mo ingon si PGMA nga ma-ikog ko ni Lucio Tan kay nag charter ra ba ko ug plane niya? ... Millions ra man akong gibayad... Sige, mag contract ta ug millions pud nga project para iyaha kay naka gamit ra ba ko sa PAL... Na-unsa man tawon ni... Sorry ha, pero murag baga ra man iyahang nawong para ingon ana nga sentiment... wa man gani ma uwaw ni si PGMA nga gibangkahan siya ug $20,000 dinner sa iyahang subordinate for her wedding anniversary, ma-ikog na hinuon siya nga gibayaran na using taxpayer's money iyahang flight.

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    d naman daw ni madayun na plan nakabati ko sa news ganiha XD

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    A good reliable but surplus jet would be enough considering our present economic condition, ma-daug ra na pag-ayos og pintal, maayo sad ta na mechanic..

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    Wala man unta na problema as long naa sa PROTOCOL ang PURCHASE since all these are NEEDS instead of WANTS . Now if ma prove na kini siya WANTS then there is something wrong and needs to be investigated .

    Sama ra na sa US , the Obama has the AIRFORCE 1 and the MARINE 1 . As long as these machines / technology are for BUSINESS PURPOSES then there should be no problem at all .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  7. #57
    back out man daw. di nalang dayon.. saw on the news today.

  8. #58
    pero ngano 1.2B pesos man? unsa na nga jet? thats like a $2.5m small jet

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by leonell View Post
    She should choose the most luxurious one! Pareha sa gigamit sa PM sa Britain or U.S.......... total she's a national leader of a rising country so she also needs some boost!
    Wa mo kuyapi?...
    Ang pinakamahal jud?...
    Leader? C Gloria leader?... i don't even think she exist..
    Rising country? Or a country she's pulling backwards..
    Needs some boost? Y cant politicians emulate the simple lifestyle of our hero, Pres. Cory? Living up to our capacities & contribute those money more on national growth than luxury..

    Hahay.. Imbes itarung... Mo-abiba pa hinoon
    I cant comprehend how these puppies think... simply irrational!

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    Aw ok kaayo ni ilang plano.

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