Evolution of Jesus? from man to God?

[kebotDiNaMute]

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Pein, palihug lang sa ko sabot sa akong post.

di ba akong ponto didto kay there was a gradual change. pag abot sa John pein mana ang mission totally transformed na si Jesus. In fact daghang gi pangsulti si Jesus diha nga dili nimo makita sa 3 gospels.

in fact dagahang mga esoteric teachings si Jesus sa John.

malic sometimes, witness says different form of saying it. does it mean they are not credible... lets compare your credibility.

MOHAMMAD - made the story 500 years later. Borrowed the books of the Old Testament and make his own religion.

JUDAISM - is the religion of the old testament, prophesied christ, a hundreds years before.
Christ - the Messiah. Witness walk with im, talked to him, some believe and others dont.
Question, is muhammad and koran more credible in terms of Christ?
What about ADAM NOAH AND ABRAHAM?

Well in your book it said MUHAMMAD IS THE FIRST MUSLIM.
--- then you said Adam is muslim, noah is muslim, abraham pod diay... hagoy, somebody must be wrong. Na sayop gamay ang KORAN dba?

[Pein]

malic sometimes, witness says different form of saying it. does it mean they are not credible... lets compare your credibility.

MOHAMMAD - made the story 500 years later. Borrowed the books of the Old Testament and make his own religion.

JUDAISM - is the religion of the old testament, prophesied christ, a hundreds years before.
Christ - the Messiah. Witness walk with im, talked to him, some believe and others dont.
Question, is muhammad and koran more credible in terms of Christ?
What about ADAM NOAH AND ABRAHAM?

Well in your book it said MUHAMMAD IS THE FIRST MUSLIM.
--- then you said Adam is muslim, noah is muslim, abraham pod diay... hagoy, somebody must be wrong. Na sayop gamay ang KORAN dba?

si Muhammad ang first muslim? unya si Adam muslim pud? aw sa ato pa mas una pa diay si Muhammad kesa kay Adam...

[necrotic freak]

malic sometimes, witness says different form of saying it. does it mean they are not credible... lets compare your credibility.

MOHAMMAD - made the story 500 years later. Borrowed the books of the Old Testament and make his own religion.

JUDAISM - is the religion of the old testament, prophesied christ, a hundreds years before.
Christ - the Messiah. Witness walk with im, talked to him, some believe and others dont.
Question, is muhammad and koran more credible in terms of Christ?
What about ADAM NOAH AND ABRAHAM?

Well in your book it said MUHAMMAD IS THE FIRST MUSLIM.
--- then you said Adam is muslim, noah is muslim, abraham pod diay... hagoy, somebody must be wrong. Na sayop gamay ang KORAN dba?

600 years later bro oi..

[Malic]

unsay totally transformed? pataka taka raman intawn ka oi! hangin rana nga nisaka sa imong utok...

ahhhh...ang gusto diay nimo ang wala pa mahuman iyang mission? aw adto ta sa prophecy dili sa ta sa New Testament kay nagsugod ug suwat ang mga apostol human naman ang mission ni Cristo. dili man kaha ka nila edi adto ta sa lain...

oh tutuli ni ha...

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

Pro 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

Pro 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

Pro 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

Pro 8:28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

Pro 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Pro 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

wala pa gani sugdi ug himo sa Ginoo ang tanan ni exist nani siya...kinsa na?

dia pa oh...

Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.


ayaw ko ingna muingon napud ka si Muhammad na...

yes totally transformed na pein. I have verses to support it, ikaw wala.

poor exegesis pein. I don't see the name of Jesus there. Siguro sa ka desperate ninyo e prove nga si Jesus na, bisan wala diha iyang name inyo e connect niya. nya kung kamo ra ba tirahon mangayo dayun mo ug verse nya kusog kaayo mo mosukit sukit. So asa man ang name ni Jesus diha and besides dili na mao ang context Pein.

Ari Pein todloan tika kung unsaon pag kuha sa conteext sa proverbs 8.

1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.

3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.

4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.

5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.

6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.

7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.

9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.

12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.

15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.

16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.

17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.

19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.

20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:

21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.

22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.

36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.


imo man gud putlon...kta ka sa verse 1? unsay sulti diha...di ba si Wisdom naghilak? wisdom diay ang context ana Pein ug dili si Hesus. kaw jud Pein, mangilad man ka. ayaw ana.

[Malic]

si Muhammad ang first muslim? unya si Adam muslim pud? aw sa ato pa mas una pa diay si Muhammad kesa kay Adam...

dili Pein, syempre ona jud si Adam.

ang pasabot ra ana Pein is si Adam ang onang Muslim diri niinng planet, kining earth planet ba. apan si Muhammad mao ang unang Muslim sa ilang Tribo o race.

[masterjanuarius]

dili Pein, syempre ona jud si Adam.

ang pasabot ra ana Pein is si Adam ang onang Muslim diri niinng planet, kining earth planet ba. apan si Muhammad mao ang unang Muslim sa ilang Tribo o race.

Can the veracity of a statement, i.e. Adam is the first muslim, be proven just because it was said by the Prophet and was subsequently written in the Qur'an? Adam was also the first one to sin against God, or Allah, now this is what Genesis recounted .. I don't know about the Qur'an.

[Malic]

Can the veracity of a statement, i.e. Adam is the first muslim, be proven just because it was said by the Prophet and was subsequently written in the Qur'an? Adam was also the first one to sin against God, or Allah, now this is what Genesis recounted .. I don't know about the Qur'an.

This is the claim of the Qur'an. Did the bible claim that he was not a Muslim?

Muslim means one who submits himself to God and professes the Oneness of his Being.

[sanggano_boy]

maayo unta nka kita ang archeologiest ug mga proff nga nag magic si jessus. or unsa pana mga claim nga mga magic diha.

maayo pa ang egypt kay walay juy atik2 nga istorya , pure great civilization.

mao ang ga write sa bible mura na cla'g mga director karon ug lastikman . para ma entertain mga tao sauna ba . kay wla man cla alam.

adto sa bukid dagan mo too ug wak wak ug sigbin.

no prob mana ang sigbin kay ma amaze hinu on ko kung naa jud proff of sigbin body. nga gi post sa Biology books. pina ok mana imo bay.

Brod. try to research the "Dead sea scrolls". then ingna ko atik2, why would this people from the past wrote this things and devoted all their life preserving this scrolls?

No doubt Egypt has a great civilization , pero kabalo ka na sa ilang written records part ang Isarel?
which only magnifies that early civilization of the Israel people as what the bible says?

Kung ni too ka sa Egypt has great civilization through sa ilang history.
wala di ai history ang Israel? and part ana of this history is their God?!!

And didn't you know that through out history ang Israelites have preserve their identity without a nation due to persecution? For many generation na wala nalang ang mga great civilization sa kalibutan. But Israel remains. why? because of their God! prophecy nah

[Pein]

yes totally transformed na pein. I have verses to support it, ikaw wala.

poor exegesis pein. I don't see the name of Jesus there. Siguro sa ka desperate ninyo e prove nga si Jesus na, bisan wala diha iyang name inyo e connect niya. nya kung kamo ra ba tirahon mangayo dayun mo ug verse nya kusog kaayo mo mosukit sukit. So asa man ang name ni Jesus diha and besides dili na mao ang context Pein.

Ari Pein todloan tika kung unsaon pag kuha sa conteext sa proverbs 8.

1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?

2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.

3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.

4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.

5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.

6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.

7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.

9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.

12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.

15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.

16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.

17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.

19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.

20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:

21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.

22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.

36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.


imo man gud putlon...kta ka sa verse 1? unsay sulti diha...di ba si Wisdom naghilak? wisdom diay ang context ana Pein ug dili si Hesus. kaw jud Pein, mangilad man ka. ayaw ana.

hahahahaha! diha ka nashoot sa taro...salamat ha imong gikompleto...

so ang Wisdom diay na noh? cge magklarohay sa ta ha...mangutana sa ko: muuyon ka nga Wisdom of God na siya?

hmmmmmm...

[necrotic freak]

This is the claim of the Qur'an. Did the bible claim that he was not a Muslim?

Muslim means one who submits himself to God and professes the Oneness of his Being.

so it means "one who submits himself to God and professes the Oneness of his Being"

then how can Adam be the first muslim on this earth? were he didnt submit himself to God, but he disobayed God.. be more accurate to your explaination sir malic..