Evolution of Jesus? from man to God?

[brownprose]

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@ Sir Malic

I am impressed by your analysis and diligence to dig the historicity of the gospels (synoptic gospels more specifically). And I would like to note the part where you stated Mark was used by Luke and Matthew. THIS IS CORRECT.

Mark precedes all the other gospels by virtue of antiquity. If scholars would have it, Mark should have come first in the Gospels rather than Matthew.

It is WRONG to believe that Luke and Matthew WERE EYEWITNESSES nor the writing of their gospels were culled from direct eyewitnesses themselves as claimed by one of the posters here (pardon his ignorance).

Quite interestingly, had the Q Documents (which by the way also precedes Mark) been extant or available during its compilation there would have been four synoptic gospels today where the Q Documents would have been the "master manuscript" of them all. Or... it is also possible that there would have been only two gospels today if that Q Document was found - The Q manuscript (setting aside Mark Matthew and Luke as extra biblical reference) and John. Or...still three gospels but only the Q Manuscript, Mark and John (setting aside Matthew and Luke again as extra biblical reference).

I am not sure though if the gospels Matthew and Luke were penned purposely to deify Christ but the Q documents would have been one of the critical answers to your questions. In the absence of a conclusive evidence, I think it is too early to declare that the Gospels of Matthew and Luke are "alterations" of the Markan gospel.

It is a good theory nonetheless.

[masterjanuarius]

one question sir...Are we not allowed to talk about our version of who Jesus is?

you've got all the right sir .. but I think sensitivity to the faith of christians should be taken into consideration here also .. much as I would like to talk about the Prophet, which would certainly be very different from the perspective of my dear muslim friends ( I have bossom friend who is a muslim, and we grew up together), but I never would do so because I respect them all .. respect is important for us so we can live side by side .. and in peace and in harmony ... what do you think sir?

[handsoff241]

Honestly Malic, what's in it for you? Just asking.

[rcruman]

Matthew 16:15-16- 15"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Bro Malic, sure ka sa imo source? o kuha lang ka bahalag dili tinuod?
Kahibalo ba ka nga Ang Mark 16:9 continue kay gipuno sa mga nagtranslate sa unang panahon og wala sa original nga manuscript? so basura imo basehan.

Ang EVOLUTION kay gikan sa lahi nga perception , labi na sa tao nga dili mutuo nga GINOO si JESUS CHRIST.
What would we expect from a people like you?
accepting JESUS CHRIST as a GOD is like accepting a defeat.

Keep it up bro, later you will realize that its impossible for you to realize.

Peace!

[YLINGAO]

. Keep it up bro, later you will realize that its impossible for you to realize. Peace!

Unsa diay buot pasabot nimo ani mr. rcruman?

atong binisay-on ha: unya maka amgo ka nga ikaw imposibli diay nga maka-amgo ka. Unsaon diay niya pag-amgo nga imposibli man diay nga maka-amgo siya Murag y clear ni dah mr. rcruman

[LIBER777]

unya maka amgo ka nga ikaw imposibli diay nga maka-amgo ka.

NYA Unsa man say pasabot nimo ani :


atong ENINGLISON HA : later you will realize that its impossible for you to realize..



AW OTRO PUD SAD DIAY KANG WAY KLARO UNAYZ TARI!

[Malic]

Honestly...this was a an experiment for Master kebs. I was just testing him of his knowledge about his faith para makita ang katag ba. Unfortunately he failed the test. His answers was really terrible.

It was never my intention to disturb the Christians here. If you guys notice I shifted the topic upon realizing that the guy intended for this thread shows disability to defend the argument that I posted. I could have posted more verses, kay sa tinood lang daghan kaayo ko ug bala diri.

right now I want this thread to be a place of those among us who does not believe that Jesus is god.

[Malic]

@ Sir Malic

I am impressed by your analysis and diligence to dig the historicity of the gospels (synoptic gospels more specifically). And I would like to note the part where you stated Mark was used by Luke and Matthew. THIS IS CORRECT.

Mark precedes all the other gospels by virtue of antiquity. If scholars would have it, Mark should have come first in the Gospels rather than Matthew.

It is WRONG to believe that Luke and Matthew WERE EYEWITNESSES nor the writing of their gospels were culled from direct eyewitnesses themselves as claimed by one of the posters here (pardon his ignorance).

Quite interestingly, had the Q Documents (which by the way also precedes Mark) been extant or available during its compilation there would have been four synoptic gospels today where the Q Documents would have been the "master manuscript" of them all. Or... it is also possible that there would have been only two gospels today if that Q Document was found - The Q manuscript (setting aside Mark Matthew and Luke as extra biblical reference) and John. Or...still three gospels but only the Q Manuscript, Mark and John (setting aside Matthew and Luke again as extra biblical reference).

I am not sure though if the gospels Matthew and Luke were penned purposely to deify Christ but the Q documents would have been one of the critical answers to your questions. In the absence of a conclusive evidence, I think it is too early to declare that the Gospels of Matthew and Luke are "alterations" of the Markan gospel.

It is a good theory nonetheless.

very nice Sir BP. lahi ra jd ning tinood nga sweto. kay balance kaayo ug view.

[Malic]

you've got all the right sir .. but I think sensitivity to the faith of christians should be taken into consideration here also .. much as I would like to talk about the Prophet, which would certainly be very different from the perspective of my dear muslim friends ( I have bossom friend who is a muslim, and we grew up together), but I never would do so because I respect them all .. respect is important for us so we can live side by side .. and in peace and in harmony ... what do you think sir?

this is nice. I can accept this.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

Jesus the Man by Barbara Thiering. very interesting.