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    @ hell
    daghan kaayong similarities. copya kaayo. ilang pangalan mura'g pare-pareho na gani litokon.

    @hands
    they were preachers same with the recent guy
    but their means of publicity were suppressed, I believe
    we catholics called them pagans
    and those wisemen have similarities with our guy,
    birthdates
    born from a virgin

    performed magic (miracles)
    wise

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO View Post
    @ hell
    daghan kaayong similarities. copya kaayo. ilang pangalan mura'g pare-pareho na gani litokon.

    @hands
    they were preachers same with the recent guy
    but their means of publicity were suppressed, I believe
    we catholics called them pagans
    and those wisemen have similarities with our guy,
    birthdates
    born from a virgin

    performed magic (miracles)
    wise
    hehehe, thats because people make a cult out of it for their own interest and profit.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO View Post
    naay daghan nga mga religious icons sa una before jesus
    na mora pareha sad ni jesus
    o maoy tinubdan sa character nga jesus
    Aw pag walay source... aw klaro kaau pagarpar... hahay

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Aw pag walay source... aw klaro kaau pagarpar... hahay
    no need to put a source kebz. dili man sad tingali ka motu-o?
    it will just shake the foundation of your faith.

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    @Nasyo... where is the church they instituted?

  7. #57
    ^nawala na siguro, ta. buried in antiquity. just like christianity, we'll never know how long this one will last. bata pa kaayo ang christianity compared to other religions.

    onT: possible gihimong divine si jesus para makaestablish og foothold ang religion. cguro, sauna, the more powerful/awesome the central figure, the more believable and easier to follow the religion. but i think divinity is the natural progression of man. so jesus being made divine by latter authors is ok.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Let us study...

    there is an on-going belief that Jesus was really just a man. He was made God after centuries later.

    Is there a pattern where we can based this proposition? let's see...

    The book of Mark was written 65-80

    The book of Matthew was written 80-100

    The book of Luke was written 80-100

    The book of John was written 90-120


    If you read the gospels starting from the earliest manuscript w/c is Mark, you will notice that Jesus was being portrayed as Man. Then as you continue you will see the progression.


    Verses being added by the authors to show Jesus as son of god.

    watch the progression and the alteration...watch it carefully...


    In Mark 1:1-The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

    if you are using the NIV bible it says in the commentary below that in some manuscript the phrase " Son of god " is not found. hmmm?

    Mark 8:29-But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?" Peter answered, "You are the Christ.

    Matthew 16:15-16- 15"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

    kita mo sa addition? hehe

    In mark...it only says " you are the Christ ", well christ could only mean anointed one, it does not have a strong emphasis on Jesus' Godhood.

    BUT in Matthew...after the phrase " you are the Christ " naay addition " The Son of the Living God ". see the attempt to deify Jesus? tsk tsk..

    Remember guys Mark is Older than Matthew and its been proven that Matthew used Mark as reference sa iyang pagsulat sa Gospel according to Matthew.

    so after 15 years instead nga you are the christ, ni evolve na into you are the Son of god.


    More to come.

    exciting ni...kebs...
    Ever wonder why Jesus was killed? (Occam's razor cutting clean!)

  9. #59
    I can't comment on the verses mentioned in this thread, I'm not a Bible expert or anything. But they're interesting. I consider myself still a student of the Bible, and I'm studying it at a slow pace.

    But I really believe that the early Christians did consider Jesus to be God and not only man. They were willing to die for this belief, and as we know many of them did so.

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    nawala na siguro, ta. buried in antiquity. just like christianity, we'll never know how long this one will last. bata pa kaayo ang christianity compared to other religions.
    Reality check, Christianity is one of the oldest.

    onT: possible gihimong divine si jesus para makaestablish og foothold ang religion. cguro, sauna, the more powerful/awesome the central figure, the more believable and easier to follow the religion. but i think divinity is the natural progression of man. so jesus being made divine by latter authors is ok.
    Totally wrong yay, even before there was an established office of the Christianity,Christians were already sacrificing themselves and underwent severe persecution due to their belief.

    Wala pa mahimong magsasangyaw si San Pedro, nag-antos na ang mga Kristyanos, ug sa kamatouran, si San Pedro mismo kanhi maglulutos sa mga unang Kristyanos. He is Saul, the feared military officer who hunted down early Christians. The early Christians already believed the Jesus is God, regardless of how big their community was or if others believe them or not. Just imaging giving your life just for the sake of a man-turned-god, would it be worth it?

    Even if the apostles themselves, they are the first people to preach that Jesus is God, if they just made it up, what a faith! Have they got just to stand up for those lies. And what a lie, that it would inspire them to cross continents just to preach such lie? Remember they were instructed by Jesus Himself not to bring anything aside from their clothes and thei staff. What a lie would that be.

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