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    thats because there are some questions that dont need to be answered. I think the term is... rhetorical
    It's alright to pat your back every now and then.

    why?
    Would it make a difference if you know?

  2. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    thats because there are some questions that dont need to be answered. I think the term is... rhetorical


    why?
    2 reason why he kept asking the same question.

    1. He failed to understand.
    2. He don't want to understand.

    hmmm. I wonder why...

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by tarpolano View Post
    i'm glad that you know where your place is with prayers.. i'm not all against in your belief.. but if it kills life because of some people's stubborn reliance on prayer to the point that they would deny any medical assistance.. now that is sick and should be taken seriously
    i agree.

    prayers with no work is futile. its just like when during exams that you pray so hard to pass but didnt study. you cant expect for answers to just pop up from out of nowhere. instead, you pray for grace so that you can understand your lessons while you're studying. when you're sick, you dont just sit and pray for a miracle to happen when you dont even drink your medicines or go see a doctor. Doctors exist because He gave them the talent to heal people who are sick - its His provision.

    its like the story about a guy who a survived a ship wreck. he was floating in the ocean for days. He is a man of faith so he kept on praying for help. a boat passed by and the boatman helped him out of the water. He refused saying, I am a man of faith and i believe that He will save me. So the boatman sailed along. the man prayed and prayed again.the next day, a fisherman passed by and helped him but he also dismissed him saying "i am a man of faith, and i believe He will save me". the fisherman insisted but the stubborn man declined. the night grew and there was a storm. Finally, the man drowned. When he met up with God in heaven, he was furious at him. He lashed out and said "why did you not save me? i have been faithful to you all my life. i go to church every sunday and i always pray just like what you said." and then God answered him, "I sent you two boats but you refuse to accept my help."

    prayers alone will not save us. it is very important to pray, but we also have to help ourselves. sabi nga, nasa diyos ang awa nasa tao ang gawa.

  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    why would one praise, thank, confess to, or ask something from an omniscient god?
    he should know that already.
    that is what you call humility.

    its like this, if you did something wrong that would hurt your significant other, wouldnt you be compelled to confess or atleast let him/her know that you did something wrong? its not just letting the other person know of what you did but it is an act of love and respect. by confessing, you acknowledge the fact that you have sinned and is truly sorry for what you did.

    but if you confess out of obligation with no bit of remorse, thats as good as nothing.

  5. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    lol rofl-copter guy... taka'g 'Y gud..
    it's obvious that you didn't get my point the first time around. your logic makes my kitty sad, hands.

  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    why would one praise, thank, confess to, or ask something from an omniscient god?
    he should know that already.
    surprised? people even REPEAT prayers.

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    It's alright to pat your back every now and then.

    Would it make a difference if you know?
    pretend I'm a inquisitive 5-year old hands, when you explain why

  8. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute
    OMG, what dictionary now u are using? what the ... hahhaa! how come prayer is synonymous, CAUSE AND EFFECT are never a synonymous word... aw. You dictionary is outta dis world...
    WOW, you are obviously high on somethin' kebz! Didn't you read my question properly? First things first, it wasn't a statement but a QUESTION... get it? QUESTION!!! You're too eager to answer without even understanding what you are reading. hahay naku! This will be a long conversation if your comprehension is a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by KebotDiNaMute
    When you pray you don't necessarily asking for miracle. You are asking for blessings or you gave thanks for that blessings. So where is miracles now? tsk tsk tsk.
    haha... we'll how do you see or know a miracle if no one is asking? Maybe not you but someone does! I guess there are no such things as Miracle Prayers, Pray for Miracle, Miracle of Prayers, Prayers in search of Miracle...

  9. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute
    Answered prayers? What you are trying to do here trip is you are trying to make the word miracle exclusive to prayer. No prayer No miracle. Is it? well miracle happen to non believers either. Its a tricky sense that does not make sense. I know what you are going to ask next trip. Why does miracles happen to non-christian? hahaha! well, we pray for blessings. If miracle happen then that would be great.

    Give you a scenario.

    In a hospital some people pray for patient to be healed of course. But in a very hopeless scenario, Christians pray not for healing but for the person to accept Christ and that he will look forward to seeing his creator. If Christian cannot convince the person to pray for himself and ask forgiveness of sin. Then there is nothing more to do.

    moral of the story.
    --- prayer is never synonymous on miracles. miracles happen when you least expected it. there is a little hope on relying miracles to happen. What matters most is you are prepared whatever the outcome maybe by the GRACE of God. Praying is also acceptance, to learn to accept trials and you pray more for God to give you the strength to carry on.

    --- if a servant/pet will do anything for his master, then there is nothing more the master would want more. Gud luck mga brad.
    haha... I never said answered prayers kebz! But to ride on your thoughts... you just defined something that miracles happen through prayers.

  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    haha... I never said answered prayers kebz! But to ride on your thoughts... you just defined something that miracles happen through prayers.
    "you just defined something that miracles happen through prayers."
    --- yes, sometimes people pray not for miracles but acceptance of what is going to happen. If miracle happen its a bonus... in our belief trip prayer is a devotion to our God. And that requires us to pray to commune with him. Thats how we value prayers. Any reaction?

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