Isn't it prayers and miracles are synonymous? If not, how would you ask for a miracle?Originally Posted by pigrah
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08-04-2009, 05:09 AM #41Elite Member
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08-04-2009, 05:17 AM #42
^No prayer and miracle are synonymous. And you cannot ask for a miracle, it wil happen when God deems it should happen. You can pray for a miracle, but never expect it to happen base on your standard.
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08-04-2009, 05:22 AM #43Elite Member
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Let's just say, if you want your cancer cured... how would you know that is cured if you don't ASK for a miracle? Despite that person prays for it to be cured, then miracle can only be done unless there is someone who starts to ask. Do I make sense? Originally Posted by handsoff241
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08-04-2009, 05:24 AM #44
Yes miracles happen if someone prays for it, but it will also happen without someone praying for you. As I have said, as God deem it.
Medical examinations.Let's just say, if you want your cancer cured... how would you know that is cured
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08-04-2009, 07:49 AM #45Senior Member
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enlighten me then Originally Posted by handsoff241
yes it was true.. but the fact that you are not catholics and does not have any idea about our teachings at all is quite amusing...
hala cge pagarpar pa pagarparae ang tino-uhan nga wag gani ka kasabot.
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08-04-2009, 07:50 AM #46Senior Member
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unsa may mas maayo nga title? Originally Posted by coolbiz
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08-04-2009, 07:56 AM #47Senior Member
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yeah.. i guess i went overboard with the title.. my apologies... Originally Posted by chad_tukes
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OMG, what dictionary now u are using? what the ... hahhaa! how come prayer is synonymous, CAUSE AND EFFECT are never a synonymous word... aw. You dictionary is outta dis world... Originally Posted by tripwire
When you pray you don't necessarily asking for miracle. You are asking for blessings or you gave thanks for that blessings. So where is miracles now? tsk tsk tsk.
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08-04-2009, 08:22 AM #49Banned User
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Answered prayers? What you are trying to do here trip is you are trying to make the word miracle exclusive to prayer. No prayer No miracle. Is it? well miracle happen to non believers either. Its a tricky sense that does not make sense. I know what you are going to ask next trip. Why does miracles happen to non-christian? hahaha! well, we pray for blessings. If miracle happen then that would be great. Originally Posted by tripwire
Let's just say, if you want your cancer cured... how would you know that is cured if you don't ASK for a miracle? Despite that person prays for it to be cured, then miracle can only be done unless there is someone who starts to ask. Do I make sense?
Give you a scenario.
In a hospital some people pray for patient to be healed of course. But in a very hopeless scenario, Christians pray not for healing but for the person to accept Christ and that he will look forward to seeing his creator. If Christian cannot convince the person to pray for himself and ask forgiveness of sin. Then there is nothing more to do.
moral of the story.
--- prayer is never synonymous on miracles. miracles happen when you least expected it. there is a little hope on relying miracles to happen. What matters most is you are prepared whatever the outcome maybe by the GRACE of God. Praying is also acceptance, to learn to accept trials and you pray more for God to give you the strength to carry on.
--- if a servant/pet will do anything for his master, then there is nothing more the master would want more. Gud luck mga brad.
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08-04-2009, 08:34 AM #50
praying is communicating with god. its like talking to a friend or someone close to you. miracles are in the hands of god. as what ive learned over the past years, if we ask for something, god will give it to us in the right time. if he doesnt give you what you're asking for, that is because he has better plans for you.
our wisdom is not as great as His. we cannot hope to comprehend the things that happens around us. we can only pray for courage and strength and guidance to help us get through the struggles of every day life. if some people think that they are better than that, then its up to them.
reminder though, pride is the mother of all sins.
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