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    Quote Originally Posted by tatakalz View Post
    I hesitate to call myself an atheist because people love to use labels and then twist what they then believe that means I believe and don't believe.

    The rules of Atheism:

    1. Question everything - if it doesn't make any sense, don't believe it.
    2. See rule number 1

    - I'm with you bro. Spot on. Well said.

    See that is why i love George Carlin, he questions everything. As i do the same to, i disliked authority. I don't consider myself an atheist. How could i be since i married a religious Muslim woman who follows strict arab cultures. But i'm also anti religion and don't believe in prayers, it's all but a state of mind. I even question how humankind existed. She knows my stand regarding religion and most of the time it is the reason why we argue a lot. Weird huh? Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction my friends. How bout you guys try questioning the most difficult , incomprehensible thought that crossed your mind? Who or what really created Homo sapiens sapiens? Just because some aged old text tells you that a "god" created us doesn't mean we all are mandated to believe it. That is what i dislike about faith or blind faith as i call it. I'm expecting a lot of ridicule from you guys especially from people who were raised in a christian point of view. I wouldn't mind. Knowing that i was raised in a christian family whose very close relative is an archbishop, till i learned how to question things the right way, I know how Christians ridicule people who questions thoughts about divinity. I can't even call myself a Muslim since faith is something that i question ardently, but i got married in Islamic rituals. This is what i call the "WTF" moments. No matter how knowledgeable and advanced we are compared to people who lived hundreds of years ago, the truth is Humans are still primitive and violent. We're still are a very young specie. Anyway, to each his own guys.

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    The question is Who are we? What are we? What is our purpose in this Earth? Why are we here? How did we came to exist? Who created us? What is next after physical death? Despite asking these philosophical questions, here we are so busy fighting over petty earthly differences over territory, oil, economy, race and RELIGION.


    Martinsell Hill, nr Wootton Rivers, Wiltshire. Reported 19th July, 2009.






    Switzerland July 12 - Hoerhausen TG
    - Diameter 120 meters
    - Outside spiral diameter 130 cm
    - Inside spiral diameter 100 cm


    still, July 2009.


    The new one...beautiful!

    Butterfly with the Sun as background. There is one symbolic meaning of the butterfly: metamorphosis/transformation.


    Radford Hill, Nr Radford Semele, Warwickshire. Reported 11th July.


    Grey Wethers, nr Temple Farm, Wiltshire. Reported 14th July.


    THis crop circle had 3 phases. This is the final version


    Waden Hill , nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 1st July.


    Milk Hill, Nr Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire. Reported 2nd July.




    West Down Gallops. Nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 4th July.



    I know this doesn't mean anything to you. In today's world were people live in an age were television, radio, newspapers is where they rely for everyday information, i wonder why fascinating images like this are never reported in mainstream media. Anyway, still it is up to you guys.
    Last edited by MichaelNikki; 08-02-2009 at 07:52 AM.

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    How are we humans not paying close attention to what is really happening with the world?

    Here's another set.














    Rough Hill, nr Winterbourne Bassett, Wiltshire. Reported 24th June.


    South Field, Nr Alton Priors, Wiltshire. Reported 27th June. I just saw a video of Jim sparks where he shows alien language. Exactly as in the first of these two crop circles. The video is called "the Keepers "












    Martinsell Hill, nr Wootton Rivers, Wiltshire. Reported 25th June.















    The Phoenix. It represents new life, re-birth, and resurrection. It also symbolizes different things to different cultures, but the idea of rebirth is its basic meaning.






    Look at this images! Oustanding isn't it? Yet here we are humans fighting over earthly religion. Haaay.
    Last edited by MichaelNikki; 08-02-2009 at 09:18 AM.

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    Let me know guys if you think i'm thread crapping. I will immediately delete the images at your request.


    Clock is ticking towards the age of aquarius.


    The Dragonfly and the jellyfish are both symbolizing ability to adapt to new circumstances and changes in the environment. They change colour to camouflage, and they do other things to adapt and to escape the danger.

    In our case those are climate changes, DNA changes directly connected with spiritual awakening and the current planetary changes caused by the actions of the life forms present on Earth.








    Jellyfish and dragonflies are ancient organisms that have survived mass extinction events on this planet.

    It is a warning that we have awake and start preparing for the future events. To unite, share our knowledge and understanding, and do what we can to help the planet, and all life on it, during this transition phase towards the Sixth Sun.

    It is interesting that so far they were incredible precise in their geometry and delivering the messages. Now it seems that they had changed the way of communication, delivering more input in symbolic manner.






    Windmill Hill, nr Avebury Trusloe, Wiltshire. reported 25th May.


    Bishop Cannings, nr Devizes, Wiltshire. Reported 24th May.


    Barbury Castle, nr Wroughton, Wiltshire. Reported 24th May.




















    Crop circles

    Crop circles are organized harmonic forms of energy comprised of light, sound and magnetism which physically manifest as geometric patterns when they interact with our physical world. To date, 10,000 crop circles have been reported in 29 countries, and have appeared in mediums such as wheat, barley, canola, trees, ice, rice paddies, even linseed.

    Contrary to popular perception, crop circles are not a modern phenomenon. They were witnessed by policemen and farmers as far back as 1890, they exist in the centuries-old folklore of South Africa and China, and are mentioned in 17th Century academic texts.

    Over eighty eyewitnesses have reported crop circles forming in under fifteen seconds; these witnesses describe incandescent balls of light which either precede a crop circle or are actively involved in its creation; in some cases shafts of light descend onto a field and swirled the crop into a geometric shape.

    Around 1980 serious attention was finally given to the phenomenon, primarily in southern England, where 90% of designs are reported. They appeared primarily as simple circles, yet by the late 1980s they had developed into pictograms, not unlike the petroglyphs found at sacred sites. After 1990 the designs developed exponentially in complexity, and today it is not unusual to come across crop glyphs mimicking computer fractals and elements expressing fourth dimensional processes in quantum physics.

    To quell the public’s growing interest in crop circles, the British Military created two sexagenarian characters named Doug and Dave, and presented them to the media via a fictitious press agency as the makers of all crop circles. Once in a while, governments like to control public interest in unexplained phenomena they cannot control by 'debunking' – a technique developed by the US government after WWII for the sad purpose of controlling mass opinion (as stated in the 1953 Robertson Panel). This method is very effective because it makes use of two extraordinarily simple tools of mass control – ridicule and fear. When later confronted to provide evidence of their alleged creations, Doug and Dave changed their stories and reversed previous claims; they could not even explain the anomalous features they allegedly made. Thus, their story was entirely fabricated. Later, in 1998, the surviving member of the deceptive duo admitted to British newspapers that he'd been "guided by an unknown force".

    A hoax is a forgery, and forgers require a genuine from which to copy. So, what exactly lies behind real crop circles? In genuine formations the stems are not broken but bent, defeating the hoax argument, since a plank or garden roller is required to flatten the crop to the ground, resulting in clear damage to the plants.

    The plants are subjected to a short and intense burst of heat which softens the stems to drop just above the ground at 90º, where they re-harden into their new position without damage. Research and laboratory tests suggest that infrasound is capable of producing such an effect: High-pressure infrasound is capable of boiling water inside the stems in one nanosecond, expanding the water, and leaving tiny blowholes in the plants' nodes. The pressure applied also causes the water to steam, and it is reported by farmers that when they stumble upon a new crop circle they see steam rising from within the design. This process creates surface charring along the stems.

    It has been scientifically documented that soil samples taken from within crop circles show changes to its crystalline structure and mineral composition. Expert analysis concludes that heat of 1500ºC would create such a change. Hardly the kind of anomalies created by pranksters with planks!

    Crop circles also show existence of ultrasound, and such frequencies are known to exist at ancient sites such as stone circles and menhirs. And like all ancient sacred sites, crop circles appear at the intersecting points of the Earth's magnetic pathways of energy; thus the size and shape of a crop circle is typically determined by the area of these 'node' points at the time of their appearance. This electric and magnetic energy can interact with brainwave patterns, and because the human body is itself electro-magnetic, crop circles are known to affect people's biophysical rhythms. Consequently, it is not unusual for people to experience heightened states of awareness and healings in crop circles – a situation also common to sacred sites and holy spaces.

    Biophysical evidence shows the plants' nodes (its knuckles) are drastically extended, seed embryos are altered, and the existence of expulsion cavities in the plants as if they have been heated from the inside. In genuine formations there is also a reorganization of the plant's crystalline structure. Other evidence from crop circles shows how the floors of laid plants are swirled in mathematical proportions relative to the Golden Mean, the vortex used by nature to create organisms such as shells and sunflowers.

    Genuine crop circles are not perfectly round but slightly elliptical (a hoax, requiring a fixed central rope, cannot achieve this adequately). Their edges are crisply defined from the flattened crop as if drawn with a compass, and incised with surgical precision.

    Mathematically, genuine crop circles have yielded five new mathematical theorems. based on Euclidian geometry. They are also encoded with sacred geometry – those harmonic ratios that govern the relationship between the orbits of planets in our solar system.

    Crop circles alter the local electromagnetic field; often compasses cannot locate north, cameras and cellular phones malfunction, packs of fresh batteries are drained in minutes, and the frequencies are known to affect helicopter and aircraft equipment. Radio frequencies are markedly different inside their space; local farm animals avoid the crop circles or simply act agitated hours before one materializes.
    Last edited by MichaelNikki; 08-02-2009 at 07:37 AM.

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    off-topic na man ni.

  6. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovely Charm View Post
    Yes, religion is like a crutch, when you know how to walk toss away the crutch,
    Sad to say toddlers in thinking wanted the adults to stoop at their level, specially the holier than thou catholic boy here
    hehehe.

  7. #347
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelNikki View Post
    - I'm with you bro. Spot on. Well said.

    See that is why i love George Carlin, he questions everything. As i do the same to, i disliked authority. I don't consider myself an atheist. How could i be since i married a religious Muslim woman who follows strict arab cultures. But i'm also anti religion and don't believe in prayers, it's all but a state of mind. I even question how humankind existed. She knows my stand regarding religion and most of the time it is the reason why we argue a lot. Weird huh? Truth is sometimes stranger than fiction my friends. How bout you guys try questioning the most difficult , incomprehensible thought that crossed your mind? Who or what really created Homo sapiens sapiens? Just because some aged old text tells you that a "god" created us doesn't mean we all are mandated to believe it. That is what i dislike about faith or blind faith as i call it. I'm expecting a lot of ridicule from you guys especially from people who were raised in a christian point of view. I wouldn't mind. Knowing that i was raised in a christian family whose very close relative is an archbishop, till i learned how to question things the right way, I know how Christians ridicule people who questions thoughts about divinity. I can't even call myself a Muslim since faith is something that i question ardently, but i got married in Islamic rituals. This is what i call the "WTF" moments. No matter how knowledgeable and advanced we are compared to people who lived hundreds of years ago, the truth is Humans are still primitive and violent. We're still are a very young specie. Anyway, to each his own guys.
    Excellent point of views bro!

    As for me, I don't care if people call me atheist because I am. If they ridicule my state as an atheist? Who cares? We only live once in this lifetime and having religion or believing there is a god makes no sense to my existence. There are much more things to learn than just follow jewish traditions [no offense to jews] because I am not them and their tradition is completely different from mine.

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    george carlin rocks! hehehe!

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    its nice that u brougt this up . crop circles , however its fraud,.

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