Jesus Cared About "Stopping War & Poverty" OR "Gays & Abortion"?

[HapiGoLucky]

yeah ur ryt...but if someone cant understand enlighten him=) congrats on the baby

[tripwire]

Abortion is an act of terminating a life therefore it's killing. But I will not argue with you on that anymore since we both rest our case.

Oh yeah, In 3 months time, I will be a mother.

that's good to know that you have good definitions of Killing. Let me ask you, when you eat meat [posk, cow, chicken, etc...] would that consider "terminating life"? So therefore, we are killers and murderers! Correct?

BTW, Congratulations! First time mother?

[bluedes]

that's good to know that you have good definitions of Killing. Let me ask you, when you eat meat [posk, cow, chicken, etc...] would that consider "terminating life"? So therefore, we are killers and murderers! Correct?

BTW, Congratulations! First time mother?

when we kill babies, its called abortion.. but when we kill chicken, its called an omelet?

[handsoff241]

when you eat meat [posk, cow, chicken, etc...] would that consider "terminating life"? So therefore, we are killers and murderers! Correct?

Technically is but morally not.

[Bigfoot Oracle]

^^ to tripwire's quote:

We can say that technically we are all murderers. We murder animals and insects, (I like murdering mosquitoes and those cockroaches..) we even murder vegetables, yeah. Oh carrot juice is murder. nom nom nom
"'Ive heard the screams of the vegetables (scream, scream, scream)
Watching their skins being peeled (having their insides revealed)
Grated and steamed with no mercy (burning off calories)
How do you think that feels (bet it hurts really bad)"

But we are talking about abortion here. Human abortion. This issue is always debatable to
moralist and the law makers and to everyone who is concerned. Like I said, it's the person's conviction
when doing the deed.

Let's say I'll abort ( with either i don't want this child at all or, because of health reasons)my baby now and kill my neighbor's pig. Technically, I killed both.

Is there any difference? Well, answer it and judge yourself.

What is legal is not always moral.
What is moral is not always cool and approved to many; subjective to view of right and wrong where most who view it are with their eyes closed.
what is immoral?--like Joker said, dear, it's the opposite of Moral. Moral distinctions are thus not derived from reason but from our moral sense. What we regard as vice and virtue are not qualities in and of themselves, with an objective, independent existence, but qualities in our minds. Thus, what we do about something lies within our conviction.

[cromagnon]

We can say that technically we are all murderers. We murder animals and insects, (I like murdering mosquitoes and those cockroaches..)

This is what vegetarianism fight for,.
we kill animals except humans , maybe bec. it applies the golden law. if we dont hurt humans, we humans wont be hurt too.
If we kill animals , animals will kill us too. especially mosquito that brings malaria or dengue. hehe
but if we kill pigs, pigs will give us life.
Maybe the reason we justify killing animals , Is from the fact taht human as a whole is one , a brother and sister as a family. A single empire or civilization. whatever outside of it is considered below us.
we consume plant and animals for the survival of our species and offspring.

but in terms of a baby , which is considered a part of our whole. Can be considered, unacceptable.


This topic is all based on the college subject Ethics.

technically speaking, life begins at conception. having a baby in a woman's womb as a result of a violent act can't even be considered a "gift" (or forced gift). it's not a gift at all,

a newly concepted cell , doesnt have nerve cell yet, which is considered that , there's no pain felt.
And technically its no different from killing a single cell from ur body , pinching ur skin perhaps with a needle.

Maybe an alternative way to abortion with a result from a rape victim. Can be before 6 weeks , which is medical abortion. this is suggested on some doctors , for ectopic pregnancy.
but more than 6 weeks or more . abortion can only be done surgically. and nerve cells can already have been developed. which can be considered ethically unacceptable , and any persons point of view as whole , it can be considered a part of our life as humans.

[handsoff241]

@Tripwire I think you are just being sarcastic with bigfoot oracle, aren't you?

We are not murderers when we kills those animals (and vegetables; courtesy of bigfoot oracle, made me lol), it is because we are not actually murdering them, we are consuming them. Let's define first the term so we may have proper margins of ideas.
Murder: Murder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Consume(eating): Eating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Killing those animals per se, has a universally accepted and naturally justified purpose, consuming, survival for the consuming organism. It has been going on for the past years since this world was created (either by evolution or creation) and it is a natural fact. Murder on the other hand has an unlawful and naturally unjustified purpose, you are taking life for a very putrid purpose, to save your a$$, which is lame.

[Lovely Charm]

@Tripwire I think you are just being sarcastic with bigfoot oracle, aren't you?

We are not murderers when we kills those animals (and vegetables; courtesy of bigfoot oracle, made me lol), it is because we are not actually murdering them, we are consuming them. Let's define first the term so we may have proper margins of ideas.
Murder: Murder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Consume(eating): Eating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Killing those animals per se, has a universally accepted and naturally justified purpose, consuming, survival for the consuming organism. It has been going on for the past years since this world was created (either by evolution or creation) and it is a natural fact. Murder on the other hand has an unlawful and naturally unjustified purpose, you are taking life for a very putrid purpose, to save your a$$, which is lame.

Calling ate tripwire sarcastic is a self projection holy handsoff
just because almost everyone is carnivorous you consider it as morally acceptable, toink

Now what about the killing spree of the catholic church before of the non christians?
is it not murder both technically & morally?
yung sagot paki hanap nga sa wikipedia to make you appear intelligent

ah i know your answer= "We are killing the heretics for a very putrid purpose, to save my ass, w/c is lame,,amen

[handsoff241]

Charm....


I was talking about food.

[regnauld]

Charm....


I was talking about food.

Talking about food? What kind of food? The body of Christ?