Science and Bible Accuracies, A Magnificent God!

[tripwire]

I'm not a business major but when predicting revenues for the next month or year, there is a graphical survey on previous years. Comparing each of them so there will be a good SALE in the comming months or years. I think Economists are good at this. My point is that when there is/are predictions, there should be enough statitiscal data to support. Science provided these things...

I don't see or hear any statistical data in the bible that confirms that it will happen. Just to add what Chad said... thanks sir.

[kobmat]

Another Thing, You can prove your innosence to a crime you never committed. If you can't then you must be the SUSPECT. HAHAHAHA!

I'm just having some trouble understanding the quote above. Why is there a need to prove your innocence to a crime that you did not commit in the first place, where you SUSPECTed of a crime beforehand? I dont know if i got this right... With the statement above you can say that - It does not matter if you can prove your innocence or not, you are already a SUSPECT.

Analogy:
Naay YUTA ingon ato LOLO.
Kinsay tagiya sa yuta? <---- argument
Ingon ko AKO <---- Claim 1
Ingon ka IMO <---- Claim 2

What if you started with the wrong premise. Say example since your LOLO was already old had trouble remembering things or just plain lied when he said na naa mo ug yuta? I think that the answer to the question is not as simple as him or you.

[tarpolano]

hagoy kalisud jud... ambot lang brad... lisud man ka istoryahon bahin ebedensya... cge gud luck brad... you are asking how to prove man kaha... so i give u an analogy how.. but if that does not fit then lets just say we could not come to a good argument...

"Total unsaon man nimo og hatag ug ebenisya sa usa ka butang nga wala?"
--- sample proof, if Big bang is proven right then its a very good EVIDENCE. if d japon ka maka gets brad, well gud luck nalang...

ani man gud na.. kuntahay sulti-an tika nga naa koy kaila nga dwende, naa sya kalo nga pula, lingin og mata, puti iya buhok, naa sya bungot puti sab, nya mubo sya, nya maglutaw-lutaw og magikiro pa jud. motuo ka nako?

[kebotDiNaMute]

I'm not a business major but when predicting revenues for the next month or year, there is a graphical survey on previous years. Comparing each of them so there will be a good SALE in the comming months or years. I think Economists are good at this. My point is that when there is/are predictions, there should be enough statitiscal data to support. Science provided these things...

I don't see or hear any statistical data in the bible that confirms that it will happen. Just to add what Chad said... thanks sir.

Trip well how does statistical data be available 2000+ years ago? Prediction in such a bold declaration before science take its hold... is such a wonder. If these predictions were not associated with God im sure u guys will really be wondering how could the writer knows in such, we just confirmed those a few hundred years back... hmmm.

Nostradamus is so popular yet so many errors. Bible any prediction errors?

The thing is, Bible just predicted so many things, so much prediction in a Book. WOW that book must be something. Enjoy!

[kebotDiNaMute]

I'm just having some trouble understanding the quote above. Why is there a need to prove your innocence to a crime that you did not commit in the first place, where you SUSPECTed of a crime beforehand? I dont know if i got this right... With the statement above you can say that - It does not matter if you can prove your innocence or not, you are already a SUSPECT.



What if you started with the wrong premise. Say example since your LOLO was already old had trouble remembering things or just plain lied when he said na naa mo ug yuta? I think that the answer to the question is not as simple as him or you.

OF COURSE YOU ARE A SUSPECT, but not a GUILTY SUSPECT!

"What if you started with the wrong premise"
--- this is totally not the point the point is when you claim something you need EVIDENCE to SUPPORT that claim.
--- remember this brad, it might be there or here you are just not AWARE of IT? its called CONSCIOUSNESS. We just don't have enough capability to test it for now so we don't have evidence.

[kebotDiNaMute]

ani man gud na.. kuntahay sulti-an tika nga naa koy kaila nga dwende, naa sya kalo nga pula, lingin og mata, puti iya buhok, naa sya bungot puti sab, nya mubo sya, nya maglutaw-lutaw og magikiro pa jud. motuo ka nako?

Brad, what you are talking is like the BigBang Theory... i wont have to explain...

We have a basis of that belief, your example is based on personal manifestation. Our basis is the Bible and historical facts, Jesus is REAL (READERS DIGEST BOOK OF TRUTH 1989), and Archaeological finds (JERICHO, ITS WALLS How it was Destroyed, possible site of Sodom and Gommorrah) and of course Prediction 2000+ years ago where it was proven true and correct.

Sorry brad your example just dont have sufficient evidence to prove its claims but we have compelling evidence that it convince us its for REAL, Believe it or not WE BELIEVE. If you don't then don't thats it. Nobody is forcing you. If you still think its a lie, Bible is never proven wrong! so you might as well prove its wrong.

Yes there are a lot of Bible Translation Revision, but the error is on translation not the thought.

[kebotDiNaMute]

i'd have to agree w/ trip. probability and/or coincidence is what makes a good prediction. too bad people tend to fall into its trap. just because a prediction happened in our current time doesn't make the prediction valid.

Bible is never proven wrong, and prediction is just part of the conversation. Its not the highlight and yet the author made its prediction before you actually came to realize OMG its TRUE.

Try to put it this way. Remove God From that PREDICTION. Ask the writer how did he know? wanna investigate? If either one of those claims or prediction is proven wrong brad, then it will create DOUBT. Find that DOUBT so we might BELIEVE YOU.

[tarpolano]

Brad, what you are talking is like the BigBang Theory... i wont have to explain...

We have a basis of that belief, your example is based on personal manifestation. Our basis is the Bible and historical facts, Jesus is REAL (READERS DIGEST BOOK OF TRUTH 1989), and Archaeological finds (JERICHO, ITS WALLS How it was Destroyed, possible site of Sodom and Gommorrah) and of course Prediction 2000+ years ago where it was proven true and correct.

Sorry brad your example just dont have sufficient evidence to prove its claims but we have compelling evidence that it convince us its for REAL, Believe it or not WE BELIEVE. If you don't then don't thats it. Nobody is forcing you. If you still think its a lie, Bible is never proven wrong! so you might as well prove its wrong.

Yes there are a lot of Bible Translation Revision, but the error is on translation not the thought.

kalimtan sa nato ang bibliya og imong pagtuo.

istorya sa ta sa akong kailang duwende.. kung mahatagan tika og textbooks nga nag-istorya bahin sa akong amigong dwende, motuo na ka?

[kebotDiNaMute]

YouTube - Bill O'Reilly SCARED by Richard Dawkins annouced by a believer

leme provide another anology

An apple fell of an apple tree. 2 ants are debating how the apple got there on the groun.

ant 1 : a magic fairy creator using a magic wand created the apple there.
ant 2: I suppose it came from the tree that is my theory even tho i dint see it happen.

weee, i really take this analogy. thanks cro...

let me explain.

Ant1 - Explain it just got there by Magic.
--- you see science cannot explain everything we do not even aware of all things around us. An ant cannot simply comprehend gravity. nor it can comprehend the tree bears fruit. As far as knowledge is concern, we are like ants. If we cant understand things, we go back to the very basic answer God. Well it glorifies Him and yea it makes a very comfortable answer and yes, the more we don't understand the more we Believe.

Ant2 - Never answers the problem "how the apple got there on the ground" --- these are you guys. Science always make up stories based on their own perception, and yes it should (but not always) been based on facts. For example they try to color the Dinosaur as black and skinny, but BARNEY is PINK and SMOOTH. hahaha! anyways thats not the point. There are also pink dolphin are you aware of that. The point is they might also be wrong and you also believe him. Actually upto now they are still debating if T-REX is cold blooded or warm blooded. Because they think somebody is wrong...

As for the analogy, Yes you are right, you havent got the proof either. don't tell me you are correct though.

[kebotDiNaMute]

kalimtan sa nato ang bibliya og imong pagtuo.

istorya sa ta sa akong kailang duwende.. kung mahatagan tika og textbooks nga nag-istorya bahin sa akong amigong dwende, motuo na ka?

Try to present evidence not just talk because so far you havent got any compelling to make me believe... start working with your evidence then we talk again... ok.

Brad you have to support your claim.

in the movie beautiful mind brad, john nash? if he meet peoplee he poke the people beside him and ask him if he can see the people(people he meet) in front of him. Then if he says yes then mr. nash start the conversation. Thought is if you are not sure, you can ask someone who can validate your claims.