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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    give me a statistical data that shows majority of CRIMINALS are ATHEISTS---then i'll believe what you're saying that non-believers DO NOT CARE what is right or wrong.
    Its not all wrong are crime in nature... brad, Ikaw man diay to nag ask no "DOES IT MATTER?" hahaha! tell me unsay school elementary wala mag tudlo og RIGHT or WRONG? Lets start from the simple ones...

    Does it mean Religious na mga criminal? Throughout history few people only fight for thier faith the rest just turned away, including me... kaw pwerte lisuda. If that failures tells us that we are wrong yes because we are taught it is wrong. But if your failure means ok lang... GUD LUCK. FAILURE is moral RIGHT or Wrong.

    example para d ko ma technical:
    1. stealing.
    2. cursing.
    3. homosexuality.
    4. others will be discussed... but i don't have the list... so bear with me....

    does this matter? OF COURSE.

  2. #162
    maau mo dodge ni kebot oi. makawani

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    maau mo dodge ni kebot oi. makawani
    I don't think Im dodging brad, he is just asking a wrong question.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Its not all wrong are crime in nature... brad, Ikaw man diay to nag ask no "DOES IT MATTER?" hahaha! tell me unsay school elementary wala mag tudlo og RIGHT or WRONG? Lets start from the simple ones...

    Does it mean Religious na mga criminal? Throughout history few people only fight for thier faith the rest just turned away, including me... kaw pwerte lisuda. If that failures tells us that we are wrong yes because we are taught it is wrong. But if your failure means ok lang... GUD LUCK. FAILURE is moral RIGHT or Wrong.

    example para d ko ma technical:
    1. stealing.
    2. cursing.
    3. homosexuality.
    4. others will be discussed... but i don't have the list... so bear with me....

    does this matter? OF COURSE.
    you seem to have a distorted view of what is right and wrong for the faithful and non-faithful. morality is subjective---what is right for you may be wrong for me; what is wrong for you may be right for me.

    you talk about history? the roman catholic church was built upon countless violence which killed hundreds and thousands of people (most of them martyrs), and that's what you call FEW? maybe you really ought to start reading now KEBS... seriously dude.

    and YOU branding non-believers as people who can't discern what is right or wrong is an outright display of narrow-mindedness.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    you seem to have a distorted view of what is right and wrong for the faithful and non-faithful. morality is subjective---what is right for you may be wrong for me; what is wrong for you may be right for me.

    you talk about history? the roman catholic church was built upon countless violence which killed hundreds and thousands of people (most of them martyrs), and that's what you call FEW? maybe you really ought to start reading now KEBS... seriously dude.

    and YOU branding non-believers as people who can't discern what is right or wrong is an outright display of narrow-mindedness.
    You did ask("DOES IT MATTER?") RIGHT?

    hahay, you know what what you are saying are exactly my point.
    NOBODY TELLS YOU ITS WRONG BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE BASIS. WE BELIEVERS BELIEVE ITS WRONG BECAUSE WE HAVE A BASIS. I hope you get it.

    --- Roman Catholic? Brad throughout history until today they never justified the POSITION OF THE POPE. HOW AM I GOING TO ANSWER YOU when I do not have their answer... ASK THE RESPONSIBLE BRAD im no RC. If you have problem with the RC ask them not ME.

    Branding... so whats your basis of RIGHT OR WRONG?

    FACT:
    BELIEVERS BELIEVE IN BIBLE and the MORALITY it TEACHES.
    NON-Believer do not believe in Bible.

    So how do you mix the two? ....

    Branding? of course Believers Believe, NON do not.

    OK JUST GIVE ME THIS ANSWER BRAD. Is homosexuality RIGHT OR WRONG?

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    You did ask("DOES IT MATTER?") RIGHT?
    i don't remember posting "does it matter". but if i have, forgive me for having short-term memory loss. please post the link.

    hahay, you know what what you are saying are exactly my point.
    NOBODY TELLS YOU ITS WRONG BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE BASIS. WE BELIEVERS BELIEVE ITS WRONG BECAUSE WE HAVE A BASIS. I hope you get it.
    whoever said non-believers don't have a basis as to what is right and wrong should not be left unpunished. we know what is RIGHT or WRONG because we believe in VALUES and MORALITY. it's a sin to connect religion with morality---see my point?

    --- Roman Catholic? Brad throughout history until today they never justified the POSITION OF THE POPE. HOW AM I GOING TO ANSWER YOU when I do not have their answer... ASK THE RESPONSIBLE BRAD im no RC. If you have problem with the RC ask them not ME.
    don't worry my friend, i accept your mistakes. lolx.

    BELIEVERS BELIEVE IN BIBLE and the MORALITY it TEACHES.
    NON-Believer do not believe in Bible.

    So how do you mix the two? ....

    Branding? of course Believers Believe, NON do not.
    again, do not connect religion with morality (or bible and morality for that matter), because you DO NOT FIND MORALITY only in the Bible---go to the bookstores (and seriously, you ought to start reading kebs), and you'll find several SELF-HELP books that deal with morality.

    and yes, Atheists are educated people... and morality is taught in school. THAT'S THE BASIS RIGHT THERE.

    OK JUST GIVE ME THIS ANSWER BRAD. Is homosexuality RIGHT OR WRONG?
    i am in no position to answer this, but i believe what is given to them is theirs---and nobody can change that.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotdinamute View Post
    klaro ana!

    Serepente! Hhehee!

    Its called translation translated..

    for the lols:

    Bitin = cebuano
    has = cebuano
    halas = bolhoon
    ahas = tagalog
    haras = waray

    ambot sak2 bani... Hahaha

    ^

    ihas - kebot

    hehehe

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by LIBER777 View Post
    ^

    ihas - kebot

    hehehe
    amaw! wahehehe! mura man podka serepente aydol!

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by LIBER777 View Post
    ^

    ihas - kebot

    hehehe
    pagka lelz oi.....nice master...

    hahahaha....makatawa nuon ta ani dah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcruman View Post
    lain laing doctrina ang mga kristiano?
    basin ang imo gibasihan ang doctrina sa mga nagprofess nga CHRISTIAN SILA.

    sa bible bro pareha ra ang doctrine sa CHRISTIANS og kini ang GOSPEL.

    ayaw conclude sa usa ka butang nga influence sa imo nakita og pagtuo.

    musugot kaha ka nga naay muingon nga Martial Artist ko pero kusinero diay?


    Peace!
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Pst minaw sa para di mo maglibug!

    Doctrine (Latin: doctrina) is a codification of beliefs or "a body of teachings" or "instructions", taught principles or positions, as the body of teachings in a branch of knowledge or belief system.

    a body of teachings
    -- all christians follow the Teaching of CHRIST through his GOSPELS. GOSPEL are all written in the Bible. So Generally what is there in the Bible Christians will follow.

    instructions
    -- this is where we vary. Protestant Christian and Catholic Christian. To give you example...

    Confession:
    Protestant: Pray to Christ and ask for forgiveness of Sins.
    Catholic : Is Through Priest. (Catholic you may want to correct me on this).

    Bible
    Protestant: Dont Believe in the Book Maccabees and Others
    Catholic : Included on their Teachings.

    Purgatory:
    Protestant: Do not believe on Purgatory.
    Catholic : Included on their Teachings

    Organization:
    Protestant : Scattered from small Churches. NO visible body Governing. Supposed to Avoid Mixing with Politcs. But not anymore... too bad.
    Catholic : Vatican Governs the Churches and Bishops. Bishops Governs Priest.

    So to make this clear brad as a listener to the WORD. We listen almost about the same, only those Instruction were different or not Applicable. In essence brad, no Christian Denomination can Claim who interpret it RIGHT.

    But I believe those who interpret the Closest were the ones who interpret it According to the Scriptures. If it is inside context there is no way anyone can claim. If it is outside then its no CONTEST it must be WRONG.

    For Example the ANGLICANS' they protest the existence of POPE but they are still very CATHOLIC. That is the reason why there are a lot of denominations. But to the listener point of view its the WORD that counts. It might be CRUEL to say in the context wise... but there is just no way to tell people you are DOING IT RIGHT... only you are doing it WRONG.

    Catholics You might want to Clarify Things, if I posted it wrong, I stand corrected on this part.
    This is an example nga lahi lahi jud ang doktrina nila. Each say nga mga professing christians ang dili mo agree sa ila teachings. hehehe


    Kebs...apil pod ang anglican, INC ug oban pa oi...

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