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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    Re: Sen. Ernie Chambers is suing God

    same ra man ni sa Flying Spaghetti Monster. When the the Creationist/ID'ers pushed for ID to be taught as science in schools, aw naa pd reply. Kung pede ilang Intelligent Designer, then pwede pd itudlo ang FSM creation story as science. It just showed how obviously silly the Creationist move was.
    hahaha! you must have been reading too much fairty tales brad... you cannot distinguish characters. There is no Jinni in Creation Science...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    hahaha! you must have been reading too much fairty tales brad... you cannot distinguish characters. There is no Jinni in Creation Science...
    which part did I say there was? explain your comment.

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    bro malic maayong adlaw tuguti ko sa pagsumpay ha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic
    First, you assumed a position where you think that God became flesh.
    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

    Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic
    Second, I am not questioning God's plan but rather the illogical presentation of the story that a POWERFUL being must die for the forgiveness of sin.
    bro tinood gyud nga dili matugkad sa tao ang katuyoan sa Ginoo kay una sa tanan ang tawo dili kahibalo magpa-ubos sa iyang kaugalingon tungod niana nangitngitan ang iyang hait nga salabutan. Dinhi nagpa-ila gyud nga Ginoo gyud Siya kay dili man maapas sa tawo ang Iyang huna-huna ug katuyoan gawas lang kung ipadayag na sa Ginoo nimo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic
    Sa Qur'an sir, it is mentioned why ang baboy dili ipakaon. Even sa inyong bible dili ipakaon ang Baboy. Mas dako ang possibility nga masakit ka sa baboy kaysa makahatag nimo ug kabskog sa imong kalawasan. ang kanang tao sige ug kaon ug baboy loyahon.
    Taga-i daw kog verse sa Bible bro nga guidili ang pagkaon sa baboy. Kay sa panahon ni Jesus mao ni iyang gitudlo sa katawhan,
    Matthew 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
    Ang makahugaw sa tawo mao ang butang nga manggawas sa iyang baba ug dili ang mga butang nga mosulod niini.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic
    Ginoo gamhanan, magpakamatay para lang sa sala? logical ba? dili. Ngano man? gamhanan siya, puede ra mosulti siya nga I have forgiven you be cleanse from your sins.
    kamo unsay naa sa DYING ni Hesus nga mapasaylo man mo sa inyong sala?
    bro, naghimo ug lagda ang Ginoo sa pahnahon hi Moses nga mahinloan lamang tao gikan sa iyang kasal-ana o kahugaw pinaagi sa pag-ula ug dugo.

    Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

    Hebrews 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
    20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
    21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
    22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
    23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
    25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
    26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
    27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
    28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Atong masabtan nga ang suhol sa sala mao man ang kamatayon (Rom 6:23), ug ang makapapas sa sala mao man ang dugo nga hinlo. Ug walay lain nga dugo nga mamahimong qualified alang sa maong sakripisyo, dili pwede ang dugo sa mga karnero, kanding o turo kun dili mao lamang ang dugo ni Jesus, sanglit siya putli ug hingpit man.

    Bro, gugma ang hinungdan niining Iyang gibuhat alang sa katawhan. kung sa tinawhaon nga pinsada atong tagaan ug pagtagad, dili nato matukad ang iyang katuyoan.

    Sumala bitaw sa akong pangutana nimo, andam ba ikaw mohatag sa imong kinabuhi aron sa pagtubos sa imong pinangga nga anak nga pagasilotan ug kamatayon?

    1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

    Ang Ginoo magpanalangin kanato!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    bro malic maayong adlaw tuguti ko sa pagsumpay ha.


    Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

    Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
    hay kapoy man ug sigeg balik balik sir. Matthew says Emmanuel and not Jesus.

    tagai ko ug exegesis anang imong colossians kay lisod man tag-anon kung unsa imo pasabot ana gud.

    kay mo contradict ra ba na sa Phil.2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:


    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    bro tinood gyud nga dili matugkad sa tao ang katuyoan sa Ginoo kay una sa tanan ang tawo dili kahibalo magpa-ubos sa iyang kaugalingon tungod niana nangitngitan ang iyang hait nga salabutan. Dinhi nagpa-ila gyud nga Ginoo gyud Siya kay dili man maapas sa tawo ang Iyang huna-huna ug katuyoan gawas lang kung ipadayag na sa Ginoo nimo.
    bro lahi ng dili matugkad kaysa "logical fallacies". Powerful God magpakamatay para maluwas ta? illogical. kana hinoong gi unsa niya pagbuhat ang kalibotan aw kana dili nato na matugkad.


    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    Taga-i daw kog verse sa Bible bro nga guidili ang pagkaon sa baboy. Kay sa panahon ni Jesus mao ni iyang gitudlo sa katawhan,
    Matthew 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
    Ang makahugaw sa tawo mao ang butang nga manggawas sa iyang baba ug dili ang mga butang nga mosulod niini.
    so sa ato pa puede ko mokaon ug pagkaon nga gi halad sa mga idols or mga pagkaon sama sa iro ilaga iring ug oban pang hugaw nga pagkaon kay dili man kaha ang mosulod sa baba ang hugaw kun dili ang mogawas.

    Nya kung imo ng tan-awon lahi man ang kontexto intawn ana bro. ang verse bro naa sa leviticus.



    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    bro, naghimo ug lagda ang Ginoo sa pahnahon hi Moses nga mahinloan lamang tao gikan sa iyang kasal-ana o kahugaw pinaagi sa pag-ula ug dugo.

    Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

    Hebrews 9:19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
    20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
    21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
    22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
    23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
    24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
    25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
    26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
    27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
    28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    Atong masabtan nga ang suhol sa sala mao man ang kamatayon (Rom 6:23), ug ang makapapas sa sala mao man ang dugo nga hinlo. Ug walay lain nga dugo nga mamahimong qualified alang sa maong sakripisyo, dili pwede ang dugo sa mga karnero, kanding o turo kun dili mao lamang ang dugo ni Jesus, sanglit siya putli ug hingpit man.

    Bro, gugma ang hinungdan niining Iyang gibuhat alang sa katawhan. kung sa tinawhaon nga pinsada atong tagaan ug pagtagad, dili nato matukad ang iyang katuyoan.

    Sumala bitaw sa akong pangutana nimo, andam ba ikaw mohatag sa imong kinabuhi aron sa pagtubos sa imong pinangga nga anak nga pagasilotan ug kamatayon?

    1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

    Ang Ginoo magpanalangin kanato!

    ah maayo. So karon mora diay ni Vampire ang inyong Ginoo kay ganahan man siya nga naay maola nga Dugo. Kay kung dili siya kita ug dugo dili mo pasaylo sa inyong mga Sala.

    Karun ang pangutana asa may gamhanan ang dugo o ang Ginoo?

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    kaon sa ko sir ha. balik ra ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    hay kapoy man ug sigeg balik balik sir. Matthew says Emmanuel and not Jesus.

    tagai ko ug exegesis anang imong colossians kay lisod man tag-anon kung unsa imo pasabot ana gud.

    kay mo contradict ra ba na sa Phil.2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: .
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic
    so sa ato pa puede ko mokaon ug pagkaon nga gi halad sa mga idols or mga pagkaon sama sa iro ilaga iring ug oban pang hugaw nga pagkaon kay dili man kaha ang mosulod sa baba ang hugaw kun dili ang mogawas.

    Nya kung imo ng tan-awon lahi man ang kontexto intawn ana bro. ang verse bro naa sa leviticus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic
    ah maayo. So karon mora diay ni Vampire ang inyong Ginoo kay ganahan man siya nga naay maola nga Dugo. Kay kung dili siya kita ug dugo dili mo pasaylo sa inyong mga Sala.

    Karun ang pangutana asa may gamhanan ang dugo o ang Ginoo?
    bro, before nako tubagon imong mga pangutana. tubaga usa daw ko sa akong pangutana. ikatulo na ni nga higayon karon nga akong ibalik sa pagpangutana nimo.

    Andam ka ba mohatag sa imong kinabuhi aron sa pagtubos sa imong pinangga nga anak nga pagasilotan ug kamatayon?

    God bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Bisdak View Post
    bro, before nako tubagon imong mga pangutana. tubaga usa daw ko sa akong pangutana. ikatulo na ni nga higayon karon nga akong ibalik sa pagpangutana nimo.

    Andam ka ba mohatag sa imong kinabuhi aron sa pagtubos sa imong pinangga nga anak nga pagasilotan ug kamatayon?

    God bless!
    wa man gud ni sa kontexto imong pangutana. unya kana imong pangutana gi design nimo sa imong ponto.

    tan-awa imong pangutana...Andam ka ba mohatag sa imong kinabuhi aron sa pagtubos sa imong pinangga nga anak nga pagasilotan ug kamatayon?



    ako...unsa diay ko Ginoo ko, nga ako man hinoon ang imong gi example. Kung Gamhanan ko dili nako angay magpakamatay, ang ako ra isulti gi pasaylo ko na kamo, ayaw na sila pagka patya kay ako na silang gi pasaylo.

    Sayop ang premise sa imong pangutana sir. ayaw ko himoo ug example kay dili man ko gamhanan, unsaon man gud ng style nimo nga imo man e design imong pangutana sa imong ponto, siguro haron makakuha ka ug tubag nga haom pod sa imong ponto.

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    ^kini .....minaw ko ani......

    nindot ni dah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    Karun ang pangutana asa may gamhanan ang dugo o ang Ginoo?
    Explain ko ani brad ha...

    In Biblical terms brad, sacrificial lamb is always practiced as a way to thank and glorify God.

    For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life.Leviticus 17:11
    atonement
    It describes how sin can be forgiven by God.
    Atonement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You might want to read the whole ATONEMENT in wiki.

    To make it Shorter.

    Christ is the Ultimate Sacrifice; He is the Ultimate Expression of God's Love so we may be able to know God. He revealed himself in the person of Christ, but still you are questioning is Godship.

    My turn Malic...


    Who was the First Muslim?
    He hath no associate. This am I commanded, and I am the first of the Muslims. S. 6:163 Rodwell
    --- Mohammad I pressume right?

    The Quran mentions that Adam, Noah, the Patriarchs, the twelve tribes of Israel, Moses, Jesus etc., were all believers and many of them even messengers who lived a long time before Muhammad.

    Why did Muhammad claim he is the First Moslem when In fact Adam Came long before Muhammad? Is he lying? or Typo Error? Better present a contextual excuse rather than making up stories... you ask about the Bible I did answer you within the context. So please give me my answer.

    This is just a practical error that I also presume error in either Chronology, Claim Inconsistency, or just a simple TYPO. Unless Malic can answer. This is the source:
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran...rst_muslim.htm

    I'm waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Explain ko ani brad ha...

    In Biblical terms brad, sacrificial lamb is always practiced as a way to thank and glorify God.

    For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life.Leviticus 17:11
    atonement
    It describes how sin can be forgiven by God.
    Atonement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    You might want to read the whole ATONEMENT in wiki.

    To make it Shorter.

    Christ is the Ultimate Sacrifice; He is the Ultimate Expression of God's Love so we may be able to know God. He revealed himself in the person of Christ, but still you are questioning is Godship.

    My turn Malic...


    Who was the First Muslim?
    He hath no associate. This am I commanded, and I am the first of the Muslims. S. 6:163 Rodwell
    --- Mohammad I pressume right?

    The Quran mentions that Adam, Noah, the Patriarchs, the twelve tribes of Israel, Moses, Jesus etc., were all believers and many of them even messengers who lived a long time before Muhammad.

    Why did Muhammad claim he is the First Moslem when In fact Adam Came long before Muhammad? Is he lying? or Typo Error? Better present a contextual excuse rather than making up stories... you ask about the Bible I did answer you within the context. So please give me my answer.

    This is just a practical error that I also presume error in either Chronology, Claim Inconsistency, or just a simple TYPO. Unless Malic can answer. This is the source:
    Quran Contradiction: Who Was the First Muslim?

    I'm waiting.
    Wrong. Obviously you don't know your theology. That's not what your doctrine says. Again, what is in the blood or the letting of the blood of the sacrificial animals that makes it like a detergent for the cleansing of Sins according to your theology, katong mga experts ninyo ba unsay suti nila bahin ana,dili kay gkan nimo.


    Before I answer your question...let me say this to you...Is this your way of dragging the topic away from the real issue? hehehe.

    Kebs...as if you have really read the Qur'an. LOLs. Google then boom, found a site and now you think that you are now an expert critique of the Qur'an.

    This is my suggestion...read a Qur'an first...all of it. Kay ako kebs...I have read the entire bible. So do me a favor. Read the Qur'an first all of it...then you'll earn your right.


    Pero mohatag lang ko ug tubag para makasabot ka sa akong ponto nga angay sa nimo bashaon ang tibook Qur'an para makita nimo ang kanindot niini, dili kay google ka kita ka ug site then copy and paste dayon w/o any REAL knowledge sa Islam.


    Kinsay unang Muslim? akong tubag ani sir noh si Adam ang first Muslim diri sa kalibotan but si Muhammad ang first Muslim among his people.

    basaha sa sir ang qur'an.
    Last edited by Malic; 07-27-2009 at 07:45 AM.

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