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  1. #51

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    Recently, the Committee on Human Rights of the House of Representatives “approved in principle” what could be the first legislative measure on LGBT human rights in the country. H.B. 2784, more popularly known as the Anti-Discrimination Bill, seeks to criminalize discriminatory practices and policies against Filipino homosexuals. Such discriminatory offenses include policies of some schools that prohibit the admission of gay applicants and the use of homosexuality as a cause or reason for the dismissal of lesbian and gay employees. It also intends to punish medical institutions and commercial establishments that refuse or maltreat Filipino homosexuals.
    The Anti-Discrimination Bill is authored by Akbayan Rep. Loretta Ann Rosales and was formulated after a series of innovative dialogues with LAGABLAB, or the Lesbian and Gay Legislative Advocacy Network.


    after ani same *** marriage... wana jud na!!!!


    comment ninyo?
    Am happy to hear about this...there should be equality to all human forms...homosexuals, dykes, lesbians, bisexuals...etc...we are all the same and we all have the right to live the way we want...it doesn't mean that if your attitude is of homosexual orientation you are immediately outcasted in the society...that's just VERY unfair!

  2. #52

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    legalizing divorce? wats next legalizing ganja?
    I think you are redicule. Legalizing divorce doesnt mean legalizing ganja. They are two different issues are the other one is an illegal drugs. I support legalizing divorce. Ikaw wala ka pa siguro naka realise nga ang imong inahan pirmi la ug hilak kay either gihimong punching bag sa imong amahan, or daghang wives ang imong amahan, etc etc. If a couple is not happy anymore with their marriage why stick to it? Basin either one of them will perish if we force them to live each other again. Lets legalize divorce, thanks!

  3. #53

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iloveyou4ever
    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    legalizing divorce? wats next legalizing ganja?
    I think you are redicule. Legalizing devorce doesnt mean legalizing ganja. They are two different issues are the other one is an illegal drugs. I support legalizing devorce. Ikaw wala ka pa siguro naka realise nga ang imong inahan pirmi la ug hilak kay either gihimong punching bag sa imong amahan, or daghang wives ang imong amahan, etc etc. If a couple is not happy anymore with their marriage why stick to it? Basin either one of them will perish if we force them to live each other again. Lets legalize devorce, thanks!
    so unsay gamit sa mga vows inyo sa simbahan?

  4. #54

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    @lestat......my apologies for the OT i posted about legalizing divorce.... na liko na man nuon ang discussion instead sa original thread you started...it is not fair to the other istoryans who look at the title and then ready na mo pabuhagay sa ilang gibati only to find us talking about something else....iloveyou4ever has opened a new thread about the divorce thing so i suggest adto lang nato i discuss....

    mao ni resulta sa OT ..OT ba.....

  5. #55

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    Quote Originally Posted by iloveyou4ever
    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    legalizing divorce? wats next legalizing ganja?
    I think you are redicule. Legalizing devorce doesnt mean legalizing ganja. They are two different issues are the other one is an illegal drugs. I support legalizing devorce. Ikaw wala ka pa siguro naka realise nga ang imong inahan pirmi la ug hilak kay either gihimong punching bag sa imong amahan, or daghang wives ang imong amahan, etc etc. If a couple is not happy anymore with their marriage why stick to it? Basin either one of them will perish if we force them to live each other again. Lets legalize devorce, thanks!
    so unsay gamit sa mga vows inyo sa simbahan?
    well most of the time sala na sa lalaki. kay mambabaye man ug himoong punching bag ang wife. if not ang asawa nga lalaki, bisexual diay. mangita ug lalaki gihapon. so if you are the wife unsa man imo buhaton? murag mag wa lang sa imo, blind lang ka just to save your marriage? so lifetime ka nga martyr? give freedom sa marriage. kay kanang mga vows kasagaran mamakak ra man ang mga lalaki. mag vow sa number 1, nya mag vow sa number 2, number 3 etc.

  6. #56

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    guys, stick to the topic please. or i may be forced to award you with a 'warned' sign underneath your usernames. and it is spelled as 'divorce' with an 'i'.

    mannyamador:

    It does NOT follow that because I think homosexual acts are wrong that I must hate homosexuals.
    im glad.
    That is why we must examine the text of the bill because many such bills (though not necessarily this one) go FAR BEYOND fair treatment. Some laws/bills actually grant special privileges, giving such politically protected special interests MORE RIGHTS than the rest of us.
    i hope you have examined it by now. please tell us what you think of it.
    Militant gays have been known to trash churches, molest nom-gay children, murder non-gays, and do exactly the same things they accuse homophobes of doing. They are not necessarily better than anyone else.
    fueled by intolerance and hate for sure. of course this is wrong. fortunately, very few cases of these are documented here. what is prevalent in this country is not violence by homosexuals towards others, but violence inflicted against homosexuals. this is a fact.
    We will have to see the actual text of such bills to determine whether they actually do attmept to legislate this middle way.
    the text seems sound.

    pnoize2k6:
    That is exactly what I meant when I said that the bill should have a wider scope. Maybe then we will be more careful in what we say about other people, and maybe then will it end the discrimination of Tagalogs against the Bisaya, the Bisaya against the Tagalogs, etc.
    for that i believe we need a more thorough study and information dissemination on the roots of prejudice.



    What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish. - Chuck Palahniuk

  7. #57

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    Quote Originally Posted by iloveyou4ever
    If a couple is not happy anymore with their marriage why stick to it? Basin either one of them will perish if we force them to live each other again. Lets legalize divorce, thanks!
    That's the same bad argument they used in the U.S. And what happened is that they ended up practically destroying marriage. The idea of commitment in marriage is destroyed because people get into marriage easily, thinking they always have a way out. The result: 50% of all marriages in the U.S. end in divorce! And the connection between divorce and juvenile delinqucny and drug abuse seems pretty well established. Do you want that kind of idiocy and madness here?

    By the way, this is off-topic.

  8. #58

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    Quote Originally Posted by gareb
    i hope you have examined it by now. please tell us what you think of it.
    I've been in Dumaguete. You will get a more detailed analysis shortly.

    what is prevalent in this country is not violence by homosexuals towards others, but violence inflicted against homosexuals.
    But not on a per-person basis. The total aggregate is irrelevant. The bottom line is that militant homoexuals are just as intolerant and just as prone (if not MORE so) to commit violent acts against others as any homophobe who commits violence against homosexuals. The intolerance BY militant homosexuals against heterosexuals is plain wrong, and the law should be against THEM too. Pro-gay discrimination is still discrimination.

  9. #59

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    mannyamador:

    The intolerance BY militant homosexuals against heterosexuals is plain wrong, and the law should be against THEM too. Pro-gay discrimination is still discrimination.
    i have to agree, though i am open to the idea of affirmative action if indeed it be proven that the conditions are met for it to be made allowable (same with black affrimative action in the US and marginalized sector affirmative action in Brazil). this needs more study though as it is a very sensitive topic.

    The bottom line is that militant homoexuals are just as intolerant and just as prone (if not MORE so) to commit violent acts against others as any homophobe who commits violence against homosexuals.
    it's an acknowledged phenomenon that the marginalized in any social issue that deals with social segregation of any aspect have this tendency to be violent. violence in this case may be a form of defense for self-preservation, or a pre-emptive attack. organized radical violence on the other hand should not be divorced from it's social context. it arises precisely as a response to a pre-existing covert or overt violence. it's the same thing whether we analyze either revolutionaries, anarchists, or terrorists.

    we can only judge on it's social context if it is right or wrong, depending on methods and motive. in the case of militant homosexuals, it's plain wrong.

    The total aggregate is irrelevant.
    in legislation, the total aggregate sometimes is relevant. the more affected = the more supporters = the faster the bill gets through. but really, the total aggregate is also irrelevant for an entirely different reason which in this case is the ethics of humanity. this takes us full circle.

    What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized. What we call random is just patterns we cant decipher. What we can't understand we call nonsense. What we can't read we call gibberish. - Chuck Palahniuk

  10. #60

    Default Re: anti discrimination bill

    the whole idea of putting up the bill is equality. i wish most people had a more wider definition of equality and in which contexts it should be applied.

    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    Quote Originally Posted by north_star
    Quote Originally Posted by lestat1116
    m not sad.. m happy.. you should be sad coz your gay.
    yeah? i find that an awful philosophy. shows how much brain capacity you got.
    at least m not gay..
    at least i'm not a turd.

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