STOP THAT PACMAN HYPE!

[la_gnostic]

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you want the longest reignig lightweight look at julio ceasar chavez of mexico

yes, julio chavez is one the greatest boxers of all time but wala siya maka-defend sa iya korona in one division for seven years; ang iyang title defense in a division wala ra mo last five years.

FYI kanang hall of fame nga nadawat ni elorde honor na nga gihatag sa mga boxers nga ni retire or natodas na. Ang kang pacman kay fighter of the year by ring maganize. honor nga nadawat nila joe louis, muhammad ali, mike tyson, bernard hopkins, rocky marciano, oscar dela hoya, evander holyfield, marvin hagler, jc chavez og uban pa nga legends. elite fighters ra ang qualified ani nga title.

FYI, ang mga boxers imo ginganlan are among the chosen few boxing hall of famers, living or deceased. anha nimo makita ang mas impressive ang record ni elorde kay naapil siya sa hall of fame because of his extraordinary feat of holding the crown for seven years. ang rason ra jud nga wala dili siya ma-awarded sa mga magazine or sports network kay para ra na sa mga active boxers ang maong award.

basaha tog tarong ang giinoon ni ron borges:

ako gibasa ang comment ni borges. iya ra tong personal opinion. they will not be immortalized in boxing history with his borges' opinion. WBC, WBA, and IBF are boxing institutions in the world. walay boxer wala mangandoy nga dili ma-world champion.

[franklin]

you want the longest reignig lightweight look at julio ceasar chavez of mexico

yes, julio chavez is one the greatest boxers of all time but wala siya maka-defend sa iya korona in one division for seven years; ang iyang title defense in a division wala ra mo last five years.

if you notice that span of 7 years, he only defended the title 7 times, look at jc chavez, in pila ka times niya gi defend iyang title in that span of time before he moved up in weight. Bernard hopkins defended his title 20 times before jermain taylor beat him twice by close decision, the same goes to ricardo lopez ang joe calzaghe they defended there titles many times in a short span of time. It doesnt matter how long you hold a title but how many successfull defenses you made. but for experts, barrera, morales, pacman dont need these belts because they are more than them

FYI, ang mga boxers imo ginganlan are among the chosen few boxing hall of famers, living or deceased. anha nimo makita ang mas impressive ang record ni elorde kay naapil siya sa hall of fame because of his extraordinary feat of holding the crown for seven years. ang rason ra jud nga wala dili siya ma-awarded sa mga magazine or sports network kay para ra na sa mga active boxers ang maong award.

kana laging honor sa hall of fame ni elorde, para ra na sa deceased. silaÂ* mike tyson, jc chavez, delahoya wala man gani ana kay buhi pa sila it will take years after the fighter's death before matagaan sila ana nga honor see link for a hall of famer salvador sanchez which also states a future hall of famer wilfredo gomez(44wins-3 losses-42ko which is also a pacman fan and is active in training boxers)
http://www.ibhof.com/sanchez.htm
salvador sanchez was given this honor because he is already dead. If simbako matodas si pacman. it would take less than a decade for him to be given that kind recognition.

basaha tog tarong ang giinoon ni ron borges:

ako gibasa ang comment ni borges. iya ra tong personal opinion. they will not be immortalized in boxing history with his borges' opinion. WBC, WBA, and IBF are boxing institutions in the world. walay boxer wala mangandoy nga dili ma-world champion.

bitaw opinion ra na pero opinion sa usa ka expert and these experts consider morales, barrera as legends and has cemented their place in future hall of fame unsa nalang kaha si pacman who destroyed these legends and future hall of famers. and to tell you again, flash elorde is just a journey man and not a member of the elite just like pacman who is the no 1 pound for pound boxer in www.boxrec.com and in top 5 of others. maybe with even a hundred years from now these guys wont be erased in boxing enthusiast's minds just like the great jack johnson. If wala ka kaila ni jack johnson, he is the first black heavyweight champ

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

At least an OPINION of a BOXING expert ang comments na mabasahan for PACMAN ug di lang gikan s ausa ka tao na gusto mo papel aron mo sikat like PACMAN .... TORKWATO BIBA MEJICO LOLZ !!Musta yadz ?

[north_star]

i agree. the media is fond of over-hyping. i get irritated when i don't hear any other news other than what was reported a 2 weeks ago. they could've simply made it into one single report that would take just minutes.

[dairyman]

Go PACMAN!

hero or not, pacman all the way! keep the hype coming!

[la_gnostic]

if you notice that span of 7 years, he only defended the title 7 times

sayop ka, he defended his title more than 7 times. elorde was the lord of the ring in his division in his time, everybody in the boxing community, walay nilalis nga sa iyang pagkamaayong laki sa iyang panahon. it's hard to find his match. until he iyang gipasaka iyang timbang to lightweight to challenge Ortiz and lost.

It doesnt matter how long you hold a title but how many successfull defenses you made.

yes, it matters. daghang maayong laking boxers paspas kaayo nisikat kay sige kadaog. pero moawop ra sab dayon sama sa daghang mga boxers karon. dili molungtad ug dugay kay ang ilang pagka-maayong laki dili durable. ngil-ngig as in ngi-ngig pero pero sulod ra sa duha ka tuig mobahar na. ang ilang peak dali ra molabay. i'm afraid pacman is one of them.

for experts, barrera, morales, pacman dont need these belts because they are more than them

unsay experts, usa ra na siya ka buok nag-ingon nga dili na kinahanglan nila pacman ang championship belt. as i said, iya ra lagi nang personal opinion. and not many experts shared his opinion, unless ang iyang posabot they dont need championship belts to become popular or to prove they are good boxers.

But the ultimate proof that he is the king of his division is the championship belt only which could not be given by a sports columnist based on his personal opinion.

and the ultimate judge kung a boxer is an extraordinary champion, mao ang pool of respected boxing experts composing the panel of "judges" sa boxing hall of fame.

kana laging honor sa hall of fame ni elorde, para ra na sa deceased.

unsa? buot nimo pasabot si muhammad ali and other living honorees, kay buhi pa, wala maapil sa hall of fame? taronga lagi na imong pagbasa.

besides, si pacquiao bisag mamatay pa dili gihapon ma-hall of fame paglabay ug pila ka tuig kay ang basehan sa honor dili lang imong pagka-champion o pagkamaayong pound-for-pound boxer. these boxers come and go. ang basehan sa maong honor nga, aside sa imong pagka-champion or pagkamaayong bokser, extra-ordinary ang paghupot nimo sa korona, like holding it for more seven years, for example.

to tell you again, flash elorde is just a journey man and not a member of the elite just like pacman who is the no 1 pound for pound boxer in www.boxrec.com and in top 5 of others.

hehehe, kataw-an man ka nag-himo og comparison nila. nagduda na gyud ko nga wala ka kasabot sa imong gibasa. imong mang gikomparar si elorde sa laborer pa siya ug si pacman sa sikat nga boxer na siya.

kon gusto ka mo-compare, si elorde usa ka hired utility man ug si pacquiao panadero sa wala pa sila ma-boxer.

sa boxer na sila, si pacman "no 1 pound for pound boxer in www.boxrec.com and in "top 5 of others" (lisod pa gani hinumduman kung unsa ni), samtang si elorde is forever immortalized na in World Boxing Hall of Fame and International Boxing Hall of Fame ra tawn.

and these honors and recognitions dili malabwan sa bisan unsang award gihatag sa bisan unsa www.coms or sports magazine ni pacman.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

So buot nimo ipasabot ron SNMP kay mas angay ma NATIONAL HERO si ELORDE or si PANCHO VILLA or si kinsa pa to ? Ala BILYAMOR ? LOLZ ! Ako wala ko ni HYPE sa KASIKAT ug maynglaki ni PACMAN ... dako lang ug dayeg kay BILIB kaau ko niya . Hihihihi .... sa mga S lang .

[franklin]

sayop ka, he defended his title more than 7 times. elorde was the lord of the ring in his division in his time, everybody in the boxing community, walay nilalis nga sa iyang pagkamaayong laki sa iyang panahon. it's hard to find his match. until he iyang gipasaka iyang timbang to lightweight to challenge Ortiz and lost. Â*

sayop ko? Â*ipaha og tarong pila ka defenses sa wbc og wba belts niya Â*http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=12678, 7 times unya 6 times ra siya successful ang uban niya nga belts kay sa opbf og world featherweight, mga regional titles ra kanang parehas kang suico. ang problema pud dili convicing iya way sa pagdaug kay wala na knockout unya naa pa gyud sa hometown which is prone to home town decision. i tell you again, tanawa if mu fight siya sa gawas, cge siya og ka pilde. pero kang pacman, fighter of the year sa ring magazine which is considered the ultimate dream for boxers kay once in a year ra. kanang giingon nimu nga hall of fame nga status, daghan kaayong naapil ana kay bisan mga journey man, pwedi maapil ana nga title. pero fighter of the year sa ring magazine, mga elite fighters ra gyud.

yes, it matters. daghang maayong laking boxers paspas kaayo nisikat kay sige kadaog. pero moawop ra sab dayon sama sa daghang mga boxers karon. dili molungtad ug dugay kay ang ilang pagka-maayong laki dili durable. ngil-ngig as in ngi-ngig pero pero sulod ra sa duha ka tuig mobahar na. ang ilang peak dali ra molabay. i'm afraid pacman is one of them.

mau bitaw dugay kaayo gi kuptan ni elorde ang title kay gamay ra kaayo og depensa unya ang depensa sad niya kay diri pa gyud sa pilipinas nga daghan og surambaw and if you compare sa situation kaniadto og karun, lahi ra gyud kaayo ka karon kay grabe kaayo ang quality sa opposition karon kung i compare nimo sa panahon ni elorde. Â*mau bitaw ang fight ni elorde diri ra mostly sa pinas kay dili mahalin didto sa us pero kang pacman, pay per view, dili lang ordinary nga match. ang makasulod anang pay per view kay mostly kanang higher weight super stars pero tungod sa fame sa featherweight karon of course because nila barrera, pacman og morales, naapil ni sa pay per view

unsa? buot nimo pasabot si muhammad ali and other living honorees, kay buhi pa, Â*wala maapil sa hall of fame? taronga lagi na imong pagbasa.

besides, si pacquiao bisag mamatay pa dili gihapon ma-hall of fame paglabay ug pila ka tuig kay ang basehan sa honor dili lang imong pagka-champion. world champions come and go. ang basehan Â*sa maong honor nga aside imong pagka-champion, extra-ordinary ang paghupot nimo sa korona, like holding it for more seven years, for example

nakalimot diay ko sa mga retired. kanang hall of fame ihatag na years after death or retirement sa usa good boxer ang mga fighters karon, it would still take years after retirement for boxers like hopkins, dela hoya, mayweather, roy jones, pacman, barrera before maka kuha na sila og honor nga ingon ana.

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to tell you again, flash elorde is just a journey man and not a member of the elite just like pacman who is the no 1 pound for pound boxer in www.boxrec.com and in top 5 of others.

hehehe, kataw-an man ka nag-himo og comparison nila. nagduda na gyud ko nga wala ka kasabot sa imong gibasa. imong mang gikomparar si elorde sa laborer pa siya ug si pacman sa sikat nga boxer na siya.

kon gusto ka mo-compare, si elorde usa ka hired utility man ug si pacquiao panadero sa wala pa sila ma-boxer.

sa boxer na sila, si pacman "no 1 pound for pound boxer in www.boxrec.com and in "top 5 of others" (lisod pa gani hinumduman kung unsa ni), samtang si elorde is forever immortalized na in Â*World Boxing Hall of Fame and International Boxing Hall of Fame ra tawn.

and these honors and recognitions dili malabwan sa bisan unsang award gihatag sa bisan unsa www.coms or sports magazine ni pacman.

ihas pa diay ka sa mga boxing. fyi kanang journey men sa boxing, mau nang mga good boxers nga wala gyud naka abot og greatness. ang uban ana, mao nay i fight para mu nindot ang record sa mga rising superstars. fighters like hector velazquez, 3k battery, zab judah, carlos baldomir, shramba mitchel, davarryl williamson ug daghan pa kaayo basta kanang wala gyud kaabot og greatness. If mu labaw ka ana nga stage, anha naka tawgon og elite. try gud visit sa www.eastsideboxing.com ug uban pa nga boxing sites unya read articles og sa mga forums para makabalo ka more about the sweet science.

[dairyman]

So buot nimo ipasabot ron SNMP kay mas angay ma NATIONAL HERO si ELORDE or si PANCHO VILLA or si kinsa pa to ? Ala BILYAMOR ? LOLZ ! Ako wala ko ni HYPE sa KASIKAT ug maynglaki ni PACMAN ... dako lang ug dayeg kay BILIB kaau ko niya . Hihihihi .... sa mga S lang .

hahaha... sa ma S lang gyud...

[akosidede]

hahah.. na S jud ning mga animal!

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