A Philippine civil war is now a real possibility?

[Rance]

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@websniper In a nutshell, a civil war is a war fought between people of the same countries and sad to know in the Phils that our armed forces are currupted and engage in these operations.

[alvingo]

Hi guys im new here and I heard that its getting crasy over there IM just here in u.s. in a business tour. And I heard alot of americans talking that there will be 5,000 u.s. army soldiers being send there because they said that there might be a possible civil war.

[klavel]

let's just pray that this will not be true..

in every war there are always casualties..and it's sad to say that the little children would have to go through life in war...

[iloveyou4ever]

we should revive the vision of LITO OSMENA of creating a REPUBLIC OF CEBU..in this manner, we will not be drag in whatever mess that will happen in imperial manila.

I support this move if in case. Look what happened to singapore, gamay ra na sila pero progresibo. Cebu will become like that if maging independent na ta. Cebu city will have less unemployment rate, maybe zero unemplyment rate plus good life for us. Our Money will be cebu dollars. wow. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[eelssej_]

lets all hope and pray not...

wala na ta'y future ani...

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[tolstoi]

and TOMAS OSMENA will be the prime minister of CEBU..perti ngilngiga :mrgreen:

[head567]

hmm.. lets wait and see...

[alvingo]

change everything how we are,change gov. systems and change all cabinet members, other people told me that they want democracy because there is freedom, some say that they don't like communist cz we're limited. kapilian nato nu sauna. and karn bisag unsa lalng bsta di lng ingani. Years ago alot of people told me that we are better than americans, chinese or etc. we look at ourelves and say we have everything cz nindt ni pinoy buotan and etc tanan,and we forget about our bad sides the selfisness and how we don't stand firmly comparing to the u.s., singapore or chinese. and one thing I really hate about us is we are all fickle, forgoten who we really are, we dont stand firmly and believe whats right. from people, politics and etc. I remember 2 years ago what happend to Osmena about traffic in downtown, when he banned the vendors from the streets of st.nino and the people argued because they say that their rights have been taken away and vendors because they are not paying taxes. Alot, of people hated Osmena. Even Big BusinessesÂ* bec. the B.I.R. is now striclty cheking all the books way back years ago what alvin garcia did not really do anything about it because all he cares is about reputation for himself not for the people.Â* So what did we gain from the strict changes regarding here? nothing ,traffic hasnt improve in downtown area, vendors is still everywhere, muslims dominate. Osmena tried to tighten the rules regarding smoke belging but no effect. Alot of jeepneys, trucks, taxi's is still in the streets polluting our land. They always find ways to pass the smoke belging test. And shops made profits out of it. Osmena tried to tighten the rules but there is alot of criticise and chismis about isug kaau sya, walai ka luoy, he end up ruining his reputation. Commonly, We all say that if we follow the rules and pay taxes properly. Than mu adto ra sa bulsa sa government. its true.Â* Even, for a simple rules of jay walking when Teens or adults walk and don't care about the rules, young kids learn from them and now knew that bulsa ra padng tanan. The question is where should we start? should we say tanan sayup sa governo kai corrupt? who elected them? should we say ang mga taw sayup pag ellect? then nganu mana? we blame it marcos time? if yes then how come we end up at the same old ways? If no, then who gets to blame erap, arroyo? Kinsa man pangitaan nato palusot? We sometimes say that we are better of with the americans or the spanish in the past and no independence at all.So it means that wala d ai ta na lipai sa ato ah mga kadugo.Ang mga taw and Hero's in the past who got killed for their country just to have independence is worthless.Â* We end up having alot of regrets and who the heck is responsible for what have happend now? Is it us?? what if we dnt had ourÂ* independence in the past. we still dont know what will happend in the future cz only God knows that.Â* Â*

Â* Â*china for example they don't have rights they work hard for there family.government earns more then half, But they don't change so much they focus and work. we say that bati kaau chinese dili jud ku dinha puyo. before old people used to say and joke around the chinese people, but look at now? they are one of the top countries. singapore was abandon but the government was strict to the people and whats the outcome? long life clean air, live peacefully. Amercians they have freedom democrcy, they have rules and they are afraid gani maka fellony sila but kita mga pinoy hala sigi pag tnt, we dont care and etc. then, where do we stand ourselves? right now we say,Â* bahala na bisag unsa basta dili lng dinhi, So we keep changing for a fact, thats the downside of us filipinos. We say all the positive things about Cebu, Its good to be positive but not too much, we should think of how we should do this properly. I dont want to make reasons to say that mas nindt ang cebu compared to manila kai wala kaau gubot.Â* Lets not forget that if federal gov. happends. are all of us sure that kaya ba nato alone? are we safe for the future?maura ba na ang solution? commonly, people say kaya but for me I rather say lets think and do something about it because we dont want Cebu to be like manila. Rememember that almost all major busineses in cebu depends on manila for supplies in electronics, cheap goods and etc.. besides we still don't have enough entrepreneurs to import products from outside because we don't have enough money. So what should we do? I rather Save money,focus on Education and think proggresively about the future ahead then things will change for the better maybe not for us right now but for the future. I care about my future here in cebu not only that butÂ* all of the philippines because I was born here and I want my kids to live here happily with my families and relatives. Our country is one of the most beautiful places it has one of the best weather in the world.Thats why americans or other tourist want to live here.

[tolstoi]

Alot, of people hated Osmena. Even Big Businesses bec. the B.I.R. is now striclty cheking all the books way back years ago what alvin garcia did not really do anything about it because all he cares is about reputation for himself not for the people.

eksakto!

[alvingo]

bro, Im just being honestly frank here dont want to hurt anyone personaly. And for added information we are still very small compare manila. If you try to negotiate and sell new business or products there, you can't compete because they have there own consumers or markets and they can sell cheaper.They have a very big population and alot of bigger cities to attend to. Our businesses or shops here rather buy thier products or goods in manila because they have the money and the market to get wholesale international at a cheaper cost.Â* Â*