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  1. #51

    Quote Originally Posted by tarpolano View Post
    kana imong gipanabi sa mga fundie na gikan...

    ang evolution wala magsulti kung asa ta gikan bro, ang theory kay kung gi-unsa pag survive ang usa ka mananap through adaptation ug sa iyang physical properties(clever ba sya, long neck, 2 arms) sa usa ka envornment aron maka reproduce sya. nasuta ni darwin nga ang mananap mo adapt sa environment by developing new physical properties through genetic mutation which can be influenced by virus ba kaha, radiation og uban pa. pero ang changes gradual dili dayon2x. basa sa "origin of the species" by charles darwin

    one theory kung asa ta gikan ta sa usa ka "primodial soup" kung naa tanan ang chemicals to produce life
    mao lagi sige lang ta tuo ug theory. sunod nana sad lain theory mo guwas nya tuo nasad ta. Daghan pa mang guwas lain lain theory bro. Lain lain gud huna huna sa tawo. Unless a theory becomes a scientific law, una ta ko motuo gyud.

  2. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by tarpolano View Post
    kana imong gipanabi sa mga fundie na gikan...

    ang evolution wala magsulti kung asa ta gikan bro, ang theory kay kung gi-unsa pag survive ang usa ka mananap through adaptation ug sa iyang physical properties(clever ba sya, long neck, 2 arms) sa usa ka envornment aron maka reproduce sya. nasuta ni darwin nga ang mananap mo adapt sa environment by developing new physical properties through genetic mutation which can be influenced by virus ba kaha, radiation og uban pa. pero ang changes gradual dili dayon2x. basa sa "origin of the species" by charles darwin

    one theory kung asa ta gikan ta sa usa ka "primodial soup" kung naa tanan ang chemicals to produce life
    kana kung naa lagi chemicals to produce life. pero ang pangutana ning guwas lang diay na kalit ang chemicals gikan sa wala. murag sad diay na ug magic.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundcash View Post
    mao lagi sige lang ta tuo ug theory. sunod nana sad lain theory mo guwas nya tuo nasad ta. Daghan pa mang guwas lain lain theory bro. Lain lain gud huna huna sa tawo. Unless a theory becomes a scientific law, una ta ko motuo gyud.
    bro unsaon pagka scientific law ang usa ka theory.. kung dili sa mo-agi og scientific theory? besides naa namay overwhelming evidence..scientists are using these theories to explain and predict things na ilang na observe and so far evolution is consistent. maybe bro wala ka kasabot unsay scientific theory? dili na sya haka2x o magic2x.. na develop na sya nga theory through extensive research and observation.

  4. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by tarpolano View Post
    bro unsaon pagka scientific law ang usa ka theory.. kung dili sa mo-agi og scientific theory? besides naa namay overwhelming evidence..scientists are using these theories to explain and predict things na ilang na observe and so far evolution is consistent. maybe bro wala ka kasabot unsay scientific theory? dili na sya haka2x o magic2x.. na develop na sya nga theory through extensive research and observation.
    mao lagi theory lagi na, based on scientific research and observation. pero dugay na kaayo na nga theory. dugay na nga panahon. ang uban nga theory nahimo na ug law. daghan na kaayo. pero kanang inyong gihisgutan nga mga theory ning agi lagi pagka theory pero until now la gyud nahimo ug law. basin nana sad lain theory moguwas nga mo contradict ana mga theory ninyo.

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundcash View Post
    mao lagi theory lagi na, based on scientific research and observation. pero dugay na kaayo na nga theory. dugay na nga panahon. ang uban nga theory nahimo na ug law. daghan na kaayo. pero kanang inyong gihisgutan nga mga theory ning agi lagi pagka theory pero until now la gyud nahimo ug law. basin nana sad lain theory moguwas nga mo contradict ana mga theory ninyo.
    mao na ang scientific community bro..dili dali2x dayon himo-ong law kinahanglan pa na sya og maayong scrutiny labi na kining evolution theory.. unya kung masuta nga naay bago nga theory nya mas katuhu-an edi ad2 sila did2 sa bago.. mao nay naka nindot sab sa scientific community kay kung asa ang mas believable og culpable ad2 sila walay bias. besides bro bisag unsaon pa nato og kumbati diri o bisag unsaon pa nimo og convince imong kaugalingon nga dili ka motuo.. walay paki ang science namatood naman na ang theory evolution its a fact already whether you or me like it or not.

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by tarpolano View Post
    mao na ang scientific community bro..dili dali2x dayon himo-ong law kinahanglan pa na sya og maayong scrutiny labi na kining evolution theory.. unya kung masuta nga naay bago nga theory nya mas katuhu-an edi ad2 sila did2 sa bago.. mao nay naka nindot sab sa scientific community kay kung asa ang mas believable og culpable ad2 sila walay bias. besides bro bisag unsaon pa nato og kumbati diri o bisag unsaon pa nimo og convince imong kaugalingon nga dili ka motuo.. walay paki ang science namatood naman na ang theory evolution its a fact already whether you or me like it or not.
    ang tinuod nga fact kay nothing cannot create nothing. lay theory nga makabuntog ana. bisan kana imo theory gipanghisgutan.

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundcash View Post
    ang tinuod nga fact kay nothing cannot create nothing. lay theory nga makabuntog ana. bisan kana imo theory gipanghisgutan.
    ug nothing cannot create something. mao ra na bro.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundcash View Post
    ug nothing cannot create something. mao ra na bro.
    matuod na imong gisulti bro.. mao na nga dili ta mo speculate dayon.. kay aron di ta masipyat

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Egoist View Post
    OT:Si David Hume kay g.saway man pud nang kant sa concerning sa principle of causality ni hume ug iyang pagka.empiricist sakto ba?
    wala man cya gisaway, not that much at least, but the point was hume's skepticism served as the jump point for Kant to consider that Cause is not found in the World, but it is in the very function of our minds to posit causality to the things that appear to us. mao gali to imong gisulti ganina nga cause can only be consider to the "objects of possible experience" exactly why i becomes problematic to follow the thomistic cause when it attempts to explain God through reason (fides quarens intellectum)

  10. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Egoist View Post
    another OT: Last, sa akong nahinumduman sa among theodicy,, di ba si kant ang iyang proof sa existence of God kay practical reason man kay para naay m.judge nato gyud
    in the transcendental dialectic of Cr. Pure Reason, Kant argues that God's existence could not be proven nor disproven.

    sa iyang, Cr. Practical Reason, he uses God as a postulate, (taking something without proof) to explain the possibility of morality.

    so at the end, Kant's Limiting Concept is still there.

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