sign of the cross

[rcruman]

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gi-studyohan man sad ug maayo sa mga kadtong sinaunang katoliko ang sign of the cross. actually sa bible sad na nila, gibase..

then a bible verse will clear all issue.

Peace!

[LIBER777]

mao lagi walay magbuot, kay "para nako ha!" man.
pero kung bible ang basehan, mabut-an ba or dili?
kalma lang gud, discussion ra ni atoa.

Again, naa ba sa bible or wala?

Peace!

daghanng naaz bible bosing
nga deli ma explain og tao2x ra!
PARIHAZ NIMO...

ANG KATONG NAAI GIHATAGAN RAZ
AUTHORITIZ GINOO ANG MGA EXPLAIN ANI!

kai nagnu naa moi authority paghubadz bible.


PEACE ! be with you

[nirdle_phogi]

1. A mini-creed. The Sign of the Cross is a profession of faith in God as He has revealed himself. It serves as an abbreviated form of the Apostles' Creed.
Touching our forehead, *** and shoulders (and in some cultures, our lips as well), we declare our belief in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We are announcing our faith in what God has done -- the creation of all things, the redemption of humanity from sin and death, and the establishment of the Church, which offers new life to all. When we sign ourselves we are making ourselves aware of God's presence and opening ourselves to His action in our lives.
That much alone would be enough to transform us spiritually, wouldn't it? But there is much, much more.
2. A renewal of baptism. First-century Christians began making the Sign of the Cross as a reminder and renewal of what happened to them when they were baptized. It still works the same way for us.
When we sign ourselves we are declaring that in baptism we died sacramentally with Christ on the cross and rose to a new life with Him (see Rom 6:3-4 and Gal 2:20). We are asking the Lord to renew in us those baptismal graces.
We are also acknowledging that baptism joined us to the Body of Christ and equipped us for our role of collaborating with the Lord in His work of rescuing all people from sin and death.

3. A mark of discipleship.At baptism the Lord claimed us as His own by marking us with the Sign of the Cross. Now, when we sign ourselves, we are affirming our loyalty to Him. By tracing the cross on our bodies, we are denying that we belong to ourselves and declaring that we belong to Him alone (see Lk 9:23).
The Church Fathers used the same word for the Sign of the Cross that the ancient world employed to indicate ownership. The same word named a shepherd's brand on his sheep, a general's tattoo on his soldiers, a householder's mark on his servants, and the Lord's mark on His disciples.
Signing ourselves recognizes that we are Christ's sheep and can count on His care; His soldiers, commissioned to work with Him in advancing His kingdom on earth; and His servants, dedicated to doing whatever He tells us.

4. An acceptance of suffering. Jesus promised us that suffering would be a normal part of a disciple's life (see Lk 9:23-24). So when we mark our bodies with the sign, we are embracing whatever pain comes as a consequence of our faith in Christ. Making the sign is our taking up the cross and following Him (Lk 9:23).
At the same time, however, it comforts us with the realization that Jesus, who endured the Crucifixion for us, now joins us in our suffering and supports us.
Signing ourselves also announces another significant truth: with St. Paul, we are celebrating that our afflictions as members of the body of Christ contribute to the Lord's saving work of perfecting the Church in holiness (see Col 1:24).

5. A two-edged move against the devil. When the devil watched Jesus die on the cross, he mistakenly believed he had won a great victory. Instead, the Lord surprised him with an ignominious defeat (see 1 Cor 2:. From the first Easter morning through the present, the Sign of the Cross makes the devil cower and flee.

On one level, then, making the sign is a defensive move, declaring our inviolability to the devil's influence. But, more importantly, the sign is also an offensive weapon, helping us reclaim with Christ all that Satan lost at the cross. It announces our cooperation with Jesus in the indomitable advance of the kingdom of God against the kingdom of darkness.
6. A victory over the flesh. In the New Testament, the word fleshsums up all the evil inclinations of our old nature that persist in us even after we die with Christ in baptism (see Gal 5:16-22). Making the Sign of the Cross expresses our decision to crucify these desires of the flesh and to live by the Spirit.

Like tossing off a dirty shirt or blouse, making the sign indicates our stripping ourselves of our evil inclinations and clothing ourselves with the behaviors of Christ (see Col 3:5-15).

[NASYO]

basaha ng naa sa taas rcruman. naay bible verses dhas.

[SioDenz]

The best mathematical equation I have ever seen:
1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.

PEACE

[chad_tukes]

Yes because it is commanded by Christ, read the bible chadtukes, matthew 28:19-20 and 1 Corinthians 4:6.

then if I can read you that it is commanded in the bible to preach the whole world as what Bro. ELI do?

here, read this teaser:
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Matthew 24:14

in any means or media/medium the GOSPEL should be preached in all nations.

PEace!

preach the gospel, but nowhere in the Bible did Jesus say preach the gospel using live telecasts, right?

it may be nonsense to you, but it's the same as making the sign of the cross. it's just a sign of respect. it's not found in the Bible, yet people do it.

same as Bro. Eli, it's not found in the Bible, yet he does it anyway.

[rcruman]

preach the gospel, but nowhere in the Bible did Jesus say preach the gospel using live telecasts, right?

Then where in the bible also that says "DON'T USE LIVE TELECASTS"?
bro ang tao nga musunod sa GINOO kay dili stagnant ang utok.
kay unsaon nimo pagpreach sa tibuok kalibutan kung dili ka mugamit sa technology nga Broadcasting?

ang mabasa gud nato sa bible kay kini:

8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
Philippians 4:8-9

and it was prophecies:
4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Daniel 12:4

it may be nonsense to you, but it's the same as making the sign of the cross. it's just a sign of respect. it's not found in the Bible, yet people do it.
same as Bro. Eli, it's not found in the Bible, yet he does it anyway.

read the bible first before anything else aron nindot imo argumento.

PEace!

[dartzed]

i didn't know that because its not in the bible.
what verse sister dartzed?

Peace!

actually naa nas bible bro but you did not know for the word cross is not hebrew but "thau".. for sure kabasa kas inyo bible sa word na "THAU"..

[rcruman]

actually naa nas bible bro but you did not know for the word cross is not hebrew but "thau".. for sure kabasa kas inyo bible sa word na "THAU"..

sister dartzed, dili word nga cross ako gipangita, kungdi ang "SIGN OF THE CROSS" (kanang sa binisaya pa , pagpanguros).

ang process of sign of the cross dili ang CROSS ako gipangita.

be specific og tubag, sulti lang gud dili ka kakita sa bible.

PEace!

[dartzed]

hello dartzed. .uhm can u give me the verse that seys we have to make the sign of the cross inorder for salvation? tnxxx

i will not give you the verse for now but i will after you search about the word "THAU" means in hebrew and how it looks like..