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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    really, not my position to define words that is built in to your beliefs... este faith.
    built in to my belief? what about you, using words built in to your beliefs este faith(big bang).



    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    BB theory points to a creator? Where did you get that idea, bible? In other words, "man" thinks that if it's theory - the default answer would be... god did it. Sounds familiar.
    A big YES or should I say AMEN! from the bible of course. Well many think that the big bang minus the intelligent causal came from nothing? hahaha. poof out from nothing...how can nothing create something? Magic. How can non-matter create matter? Magic. By the way you articulate your belief este faith, you do indeed believe in Magic. You are just shy to admit it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    tsk... I find it hard for some people to argue when someone thinks that if you read bible, you believe to it. hohumm...
    well what can I do? if your mind can only take you as low as where you are now, its kinda hard to fix it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    hehehe... I did not skip, you only thought that I skip... as I have said, to satisfy your curiosity... If the universe did not exist, there would essentially be a void of space and we don't exist. Except, the very existence of space rules out the possibility of creationism theory. It's a paradox that is solved by the universe's existence. At our point in the universe, the configuration allows our existence. We are here, because the universe exists, not the other way around!
    oh yes you did, you only think that you didnt. Well finally i got an answer, google did it for you eh?
    Void of space? what do you mean by this? NO SPACE therefore no existence. But this is not really the point of my question. Read it again sir.

    Here is a what i said...since there is existence and you said that nobody created all these, therefore why do we exist instead of nothing? dont turn around sir. hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    The BB theory is a good theory, it is considered a scientific possibility, it could solve a lot of the problems about the anthropic principles stating the universe exists the way it is because we are here.

    Now, can you answer my question also?
    Sure its a good theory, as I have said, thats not a problem. The only problem i have is when the creator is taken out of the equation.

    how can non-matter produce matter?

    Sure I can answer your question. thats easy.

    Who created God? hmmm, funny question. When i say...The Bachelor made love to his wife. Would that be a correct statement? NO of course. Why? Because by definition a Bachelor does not have a wife. right or wrong?

    So when you asked Who created God? did you ever think that by definition God has a creator?

    By definition God is not part of the material world and has no physical composition.

    when we say creation we refer to material existence but by definition God is non-matter.

    Therefore God has no creator.

    So palihug consider the definition para dili masayop imong question. kay mura ka ana nangutana kung ang bachelor naa bay asawa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    and you feel offended if ZEUS did it?
    likewise, fictional characters all lead to fairy tales.

    ZEUS did it? why should i get offended? if the bible said it I'll accept it. But its not there. Zeus' story is totally different.

    I can now see your problem. You want to level the bible with the fictional books, hehe that wont work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    and you feel offended if ZEUS did it?
    likewise, fictional characters all lead to fairy tales.
    Well Bing Bang is nice story too... i think its big time... starting OPTIMUS PRIME... i think the CUBE MADE IT... the problem with your story too much flaw... too scientific yet it oppose the basic rule... tsk tsk tsk... thats a great barrier out there. Keep your research brad... keep it up and keep us updated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmicaeld View Post
    the belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which turned into dinosaurs... makes perfect sense.
    naka G ko brad... ambot lang nila...

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    even mathematics cannot solve how is that 0 ( VOID ) multiplied by 0 ( nothing ) equals millions of universe.

    let's start again.. use everything in ur sane>( hopefully ) mind can percieve .

    its it possible to create anything out of nothing? this is the bigbang right?


    the belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which turned into dinosaurs... makes perfect sense.
    answer sa mo... simple question ra ni.

    if u can..ill ask what books ur reading?

    if u cant answer it, STOP BLABBERING NONESENSE!

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    and then we close this thread.

    mag inom na lang ta ninyo dayon..

    pabugnaw sa mulabad nga ulo.

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    i wont offer you a book but papers entitled, "birth of inflationary universes" and "quantum creation"
    the former from physics letter 1982, the latter physical review 1984. By alexander vilenkin.

    enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butitoy View Post
    even mathematics cannot solve how is that 0 ( VOID ) multiplied by 0 ( nothing ) equals millions of universe.

    let's start again.. use everything in ur sane>( hopefully ) mind can percieve .

    its it possible to create anything out of nothing? this is the bigbang right?



    answer sa mo... simple question ra ni.

    if u can..ill ask what books ur reading?

    if u cant answer it, STOP BLABBERING NONESENSE!
    unsa na ni?! nagmultiplication naman mo.. ngano nalabot naman ang math ane? 0 multiplied by 0 is 0 ra japon bossing.. dili millions of universe ha..

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    o tagay sa bai kay murag taas2x jud ning sturyaha ni.... basig moabot pud nig tae ning storyaha ni ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    i wont offer you a book but papers entitled, "birth of inflationary universes" and "quantum creation"
    the former from physics letter 1982, the latter physical review 1984. By alexander vilenkin.

    enjoy.
    Naay koy tubag ani brad.

    So it seems we cant test your theory but we can present it on paper... I guess there is nothing wrong with it... but take this logic brad.

    Theory of Big Bang cannot be tested.
    Universe cannot be tested.
    God cannot be tested.

    so we abandon or we believe? you guys decide...

    Faith - belief that is not based on proof.
    faith definition | Dictionary.com

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