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  1. #31

    ^ot: congrats, sis

    on topic: i hope no woman should have to go through that traumatic experience and have to make that hellish decision.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by KASAAC View Post
    Ultimately, God will not give you such problems if He thinks you are incapable of getting away with it.
    Yes, that is true too. If He understands completely then why can't He more understanding if the girl decides to abort the child?

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Sir, the fact is that that child has no memory or knowledge that he or she gets aborted. I don't think the baby at a 12-week old will have complete understanding about religion and morals.

    I sure do understand your point, why won't you try to imagine your self first being the child to be aborted. Even if scientifically, babies of 12 week old don't have complete understanding about religion and morals however, emotions and feelings are there.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    ^ot: congrats, sis

    on topic: i hope no woman should have to go through that traumatic experience and have to make that hellish decision.
    Tinood gyud. I am religious but when it comes to things like this... there is a fine line between my life and my future.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Yes, that is true too. If He understands completely then why can't He more understanding if the girl decides to abort the child?

    If the girl decides to abort the child, you think she'll live in peace? her conscience will haunt her. If she keeps the child, good things will surely come along her way.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by KASAAC View Post

    I sure do understand your point, why won't you try to imagine your self first being the child to be aborted. Even if scientifically, babies of 12 week old don't have complete understanding about religion and morals however, emotions and feelings are there.
    You see, we only know that there is a baby inside but we don't know what or how the baby thinks or maybe not thinking at all. I can't possibly put myself into the baby's self because I don't know what to think inside the womb. Pop question, do you remember anything while you are inside your mother's womb? It's a grave picture to take out a baby at an early stage but what will you do if that child will get the same fate as the mother? or better yet turn into something that the mother don't like it to be?

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    This is what your thread is about, correct? Of course I'm talking about post-rape scenario! As I have said in my earlier post... you don't know our body (women) and you don't get pregnant - balance that first.

    Now, since God is a forgiving being... why would He be mad at me if I am only protecting myself, my family? Why would He be mad if God sees good things for me? It will be traumatic sir kebot (if you understand it properly) if God is not reasonable and justifiable if my actions are for my own life. Do you think that's a good sign if keep on hurting the child in the process?

    If God is forgiving, then there is no reason for me to be afraid. God is merciful man kaha.
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    That's true! But this was part of my thesis when I was completing my Masters degree {I passed with excellent grade - pinay gud. lol]. 9 out 10 thinks that it is traumatic and considering abortion is one option they will do. As I have said, this is between religion and personal decision.
    well, in that case, if the woman relies on religion, logically magpa-abort jud xa..
    pero if you transcend the biases and prejudices of religion, the woman will allow the child to live..

    parehas man ni ug typical disney story na unwanted ang child kay anak sa devil kuno, unya love man jud sa mother, so she goes against the advise of the bishop or priest to have the child aborted.. noh?

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by KASAAC View Post

    I sure do understand your point, why won't you try to imagine your self first being the child to be aborted. Even if scientifically, babies of 12 week old don't have complete understanding about religion and morals however, emotions and feelings are there.
    true, ma'am. in the vid i've seen, the baby did not want to be crushed.

    but then again, it's the woman's choice. right or wrong. we could not fully comprehend the enormity of that choice until you are in her place.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by KASAAC View Post
    If the girl decides to abort the child, you think she'll live in peace? her conscience will haunt her. If she keeps the child, good things will surely come along her way.
    Of course not, she will remember what will happen to her BUT she will forget the trauma if she don't see the child being born. Let's consider things will come out fine... but I have good follow up question for you. What will you do if that child gets bullied by his/her classmates? It's superficial yes, but that's reality that you have to face over and over again for the rest of both lives. As I have said, sa Pilipinas.. we are self-righteous society and we pattern our moral obligations though religion. What's different to us is completely different ra ba gyud.

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    You see, we only know that there is a baby inside but we don't know what or how the baby thinks or maybe not thinking at all. I can't possibly put myself into the baby's self because I don't know what to think inside the womb. Pop question, do you remember anything while you are inside your mother's womb? It's a grave picture to take out a baby at an early stage but what will you do if that child will get the same fate as the mother? or better yet turn into something that the mother don't like it to be?
    Is that an excuse? if that's your answer then I guess you are being insensitive.
    If the child will remind the mother (not in general) of her "traumatic-raped" past well abortion, I think is not the only option and the ultimate solution. You can always give the child to family who doesn't have the capabilities to bear a child.

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