Arroyo allies plan Con-ass next month

[jerx d great]

in a parliamentray form of government it would be easier for the PM to stay in power as long as he has the vote of confidence of the whole party... so if we have parliamentary form of government right now and the type of congressmen we have as Pmmbers.. hello forever na si GMA as PM...

if ur congressman, supports a p.m which u dont like, then dont elect him. simple as that. still, we have the control and the right to choose gihapon. kita ra japn mga tawo ang nag control nila.! so if iyahang mga constituents sa usa ka congresman dli gnahan ana nga p.m, do u think he wil support that prime minister? mataktak xag ahat.!

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

if ur congressman, supports a p.m which u dont like, then dont elect him. simple as that. still, we have the control and the right to choose gihapon. kita ra japn mga tawo ang nag control nila.! so if iyahang mga constituents sa usa ka congresman dli gnahan ana nga p.m, do u think he wil support that prime minister? mataktak xag ahat.!

ahihihi... mayta ingon ana... pero ngano kaha na nag na sa congress kay ni-support man ni GMA... to think daghan man dili ganhan niya... na mga taw...

[giddyboy]

@ giddyboy

in 1938 there was only one party dominating the Philippine politics and that is the NAcionalista PArty.. if we look closely at the NAcionalista party, their advocacy during that time is self-rule of the philippines... The party is the leading political party if not the only political party.

yeah, i know about that. that's why this is included in our federal-parliamentary proposal: to change the nature of political parties too.

even w/ the changes resulting to our 1987 Consti and up to this date, did not eradicate that kind of system where a party dominates the other.

what im saying is this that party is the only representative of filipino especially its fight for self-determination during that time...

bottomline is.. Poltical PArties ina parliamnery form of government plays a great role... and our existing poltical parties is not the type of parties fitted for a parliamnetry form of government..

there are alot of pros in a federal govenment and even in a parliamentary form of government.. but the real question is are we ready for that kind of system?

and you will say we wont know till we try... ano yun trial and error... we must still look at our history, social and poltical structure and we can see hindi yun bagay para sa atin... marami pang rin filipino ang power hungry blame it on the fact na for 333 years tayo ay mga indio lamang... hahahhaha

we are not making a trial and error here. we are basing those proposals from scrutinizing historical facts and figures, applying it to the present national situation vis a vis the global situation, and projecting the future outcome.

and yes, i know we've been colonized for 300 yrs or so by the Spanish and remnants of the mentality still persists up to this day. fact of that is our semi-feudal system. but as Malacanang admitted not too long ago, a social volcano is about to erupt na. people are already sick and tired of this current system of governance and a change to a more efficient and effective one has been long overdue. in fact, Cebu has been harping about that for the longest time. the time to act is now...

2014 or 2016 is just too long a wait. ang mas kuyaw, walay mahitabo gyud nuon.

and this is not in any way funny...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

if you could change the nature of poltical parties.. the con-ass might jsut have might vote... but i dont think that would be possible even if there is a law...

but who knows... how would they go about changing poltical parties?

[Peacefulguy]

respetohan sad na ang opinion sa ubang tawo, discussion board baya ni ang istorya. diretso man lang sad ka judge na bogo ang usa ka tawo. kabalo ka unsa imo gipagawas? mas bogo ka sa imong gisaway.

dong, read sa mga daan namong posts before this.. tan-awa nganung naka ingon ko nga bogo ning tawhana.. kay murag ikaw man ga judge nako dong! ty

[juan penduko]

makibaka. makikaon. makikabaw. asa na ang kaon.?

[giddyboy]

SC junks petitions vs con-ass, court spokesman says
GMANews.TV - Tuesday, June 16

MANILA, Philippines – The Supreme Court (SC) on Tuesday dismissed two petitions seeking to strike down a House resolution calling for a constituent assembly (con-ass) to amend the 1987 Philippine Constitution.

SC spokesperson Jose Midas Marquez told GMANews.TV said the full details on the dismissal of the petitions, filed separately by lawyers Louis Biraogo and Oliver Lozano, would be given in a press in a press conference later in the afternoon.

Radio reports had earlier said the petitions were junked for being premature and lacking in legal standing. The decision was reportedly penned by Chief Justice Reynato Puno...

"It's like all the rallies and the lightning protests the militants and those who want to run next year are making, including some of the bishops — it's all just noises, and it's all premature" ~ Rep Nograles

full article:
SC junks petitions vs con-ass, court spokesman says - Yahoo! Philippines News

---000---

GMA: We're not out to scrap elections
Philstar.com - Sunday, June 21

TOKYO – President Arroyo broke her silence yesterday amid speculations that she is bent on prolonging her stay in power through the Charter change efforts of her allies in the House of Representatives.

Mrs. Arroyo said she was not moving “to scrap the elections” next year but stressed she believed the Constitution needs to be amended for political and economic reforms.

“We are not out to scrap the elections,” Mrs. Arroyo told reporters here when asked to comment on last week’s anti-Charter change rally in Makati City.

“What I have always said, and it was part of my campaign platform in 2004, is that the political system needs to be reformed,” the President told reporters here covering her working visit in Japan.

Mrs. Arroyo said the political and economic reforms she wished to implement would entirely depend on the efforts of her allies and “ultimately on the people of the Philippines.”

Mrs. Arroyo refused to entertain further questions on her political plans and on her possible successor in 2010.

“I don’t want to talk politics… but what I want to say is that we have a vision. We would like to see the Philippines on the verge of First World (status) in 20 years,” Mrs. Arroyo said.

full article:
GMA: We're not out to scrap elections - Yahoo! Philippines News

[giddyboy]

if you could change the nature of poltical parties.. the con-ass might jsut have might vote... but i dont think that would be possible even if there is a law...

but who knows... how would they go about changing poltical parties?

let's take a brief history (read carefully):

The 1973 Consti originally provided for a multi-party system on the theory that w/ such a system, elections would be decided on issues of platforms and principles and not personalities. However, the 1980 local elections spawned several splintered parties which were only factions headed by personalities.

The 1987 Consti, although it eliminated the two-party provision of the 1973 Consti, does not expressly mandate a multi-party system.It merely removes the constraints on a freely evolved multi-party system. Neither does it prohibit a two-party system. In a "free and open party system", the people may prefer a two-party or three-party system later by supporting particular parties and their candidates.

The initial draft of the Consti was geared towards a parliamentary form of gov't but because of fear of the revolutionary gov't that political followers of Marcos might be elected and succeed to dominate the parliament, it managed to have the Constitutional Commission shift to the presidential form. In the process, the provision on the multi-party system which is more appropriate for the parliamentary form was overlooked.

and later on, we have also included a party list system under the Party list Law providing representation of marginalized sectors. it paved the way for a full operation of a multi-party system in our country.

What we have now is a multi-party system under a presidential form of government. This is an incongruency because a multi-party system belongs to a parliamentary system where the Prime Minister, the real executive, is chosen by members of Parliament in the same way that a two-party system belongs to a presidential system where the President is directly elected by the people. Where there are several presidential candidates, the probability is that the winner will not garner the majority of the votes cast (unless the Constitution provides for a run-off election) and this is not conducive to political stability.

so by correcting the system from a presidential nature to a parliamentary form would accordingly correct also the nature of how political parties work.

source: Philippine constitutional law
Ayon kay Hector S. De Leon, Philippines

[FKtemp]

if ur congressman, supports a p.m which u dont like, then dont elect him. simple as that. still, we have the control and the right to choose gihapon. kita ra japn mga tawo ang nag control nila.! so if iyahang mga constituents sa usa ka congresman dli gnahan ana nga p.m, do u think he wil support that prime minister? mataktak xag ahat.!

does you congressman really cares about your voice? Most of them cares of their Pork Barrel, which could make them win again, even if his/her people are against the PM.

[radiostar]

why con-ass?