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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    nobody's using the bible for any agenda whatsoever, sir kebs. if there's anybody who are using the bible fervently, it's those who cherish Christianity. i see nothing wrong with that either. but you really can't stop some people who want to view the bible as nothing more than just a wonderful book with good stories and moral lessons we could learn from. these people want to view the events in the bible in a historical perspective and we can't really blame them because they're subject to their own freewill and accord. while some of them may have found something historically interesting in the bible, believe me, it is not their purpose to discredit the sacred book, but somehow, offer a different perspective in reading it. and that, is based on the historical perspective. i know and i understand how difficult these may sound to you and/or anyone who regard the bible as the Word of God, and in behalf of them, i apologize if we may have caused you offense in our criticisms, but deep inside, we're just acting out of what we believe in. just the same as you are acting on what you believe. now, what i propose, is that, maybe we could start anew minus the derogatory remarks from both sides. actually start respecting each other. mr.kebot, sir, i must tell you this, that i still don't believe the bible as the Word of God in its perfectness. but i'm still hoping we could still respect each other. perhaps you could still treat me as a friend even though i'm a heretic. but rest assured, i won't attack you and/or any zealous religionists in here. i respect you all. namaste.
    Ok brad I got your point. Yea if people wanted respect then stop the attacks. again WE ARE HAPPY OF OUR FAITH AND SOME DESPISES IT.

    Now to make things clear. I would like to ASK WHO FEELS BETTER?

    Brad, a lot has been said already. Nice and humble reply but in the first place d man jud ang uban ma minaw. So to make things settle.

    Kami Malipayon sa amo FAITH.
    Sila Kasokaon.

    Who feels better?

    Nano man intawn na maningkamot man gub-on amo kalipay. Bsin malipayon cla manguba? or Part of LOGIC? i dont know. It doesn't make sense to me. I hope you are not one of them brad.

    I do not judge you brad its not my obligation, Brad Despite of our differences it does not mean we cannot love each other and live a peaceful life.

    Lets Just enjoy the FREE FAITH it makes us Happy.

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    yeah ive got your point , religious tolerance ,

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    to each his/her own

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    Rule of the THUMB mga Brad.

    Whatever makes you happy stay happy we will be happy for you. For as long as you obey the laws of the Land there will be peace within you. Hope this sounds Logical.

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    ^but what are the laws of the land? laws are based on man's reason. man's reason is not always definite.

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    then obey the Laws of Nature. ('c',)

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    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    ^but what are the laws of the land? laws are based on man's reason. man's reason is not always definite.
    Laws of the land bro is Bala-ud

    naa man ta pilipinas mo tuman jud ta balaod sa pilipinas. kung naa ta sa saudi aw tuman pod ta sa balaud sa saudi...

    Mao na gi ingon laws of the land bro... general terms. kay lain2 nasod lain2 balaod.

    Man's Reason is not always Definite. <------------- bullseye.
    Then dont lay your hope on human standard <--- Opinion ra ni brad. subject to errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    then obey the Laws of Nature. ('c',)
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    Of course,

    Whatever comes up must come down(Gravity) - wala natay mahims jud ani brad. But Laws of Nature created by man that would be subjective as long as di na balaod sa gobyerno.

    example.

    Ingon ang new world order dapat 500,000 ray population sa kalibotan. Aw d na mahimo brad kay 6 Billion nata unless mo volunter cla silay una... Ila rana balaod dili ato...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
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    Ok then lets back track. (di dilay di dilay...)

    1. TOPIC is: ONENESS.
    (Purpose is to MERGE all belief into a universal one...) <-------------------------------- mao ni purpose brad
    huh? merge all into a universal belief? murag lisod na diha brad.. sa una, mananghid pa ka sa kada-usat-usang belief kung pwede ba i-merge, kaduha lisod pud kaau jud na.. kay di tanan customs and belief sa lain2x relihiyon ma-merge ug sayon2x.. ang buot ra ipa-ibot ani kay naa jud common theme na Oneness kada relihiyon.. mao ra man tingali na.. diin man ka nakakuha anang purpose na i-merge all belief into a universal one??

    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    2. Reg POSTs verses from different Scriptures that said UNITY.
    3. He Stressed out the ACTS verse of Scriptures to Emphasize to the Christian
    (it says Oi Kristyanos Naa sa inyo bibliya o magka hi-usa nata oi. Sak2? )
    (yes, sak2 if we will be united in the Glory of Christ <read the following verse>) <----------- tricky part
    (most christians will compromise and say segi ingong btaw c Lord) <-------- Fail Given up his Faith
    same comment sa 1st..

    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    Kindly check summary of belief: (IMO ni ha subject to error).
    1. Hindu = Tanan Ginoo.
    2. Bhuddism = Ikaw Ginoo, Ako Ginoo.
    3. Muslim = si Allah ray Ginoo.
    4. Christians = Christ Ginoo, Yahweh Ginoo, Holy Spirit Ginoo.
    5. Athiest = Walay Ginoo oi.

    So, How huh? Kinsa man ato himoon Ginoo? Athiest I guess kay maoy pinaka sayon. Brad Sorry we all have our differences but it doesnt mean we dont love each other. Thats people call it shit because its the thing we could never agree.
    mao bitaw wala na niya sumpayi atong Seek thy Lord kay lahi2x jud ang ginoo2x kada relihiyon.. pero ang common theme kay Oneness ra japon.. kung pwede gani, maypa tangtangon na lng ning ginoo2x kay mao ra nay nagdaa ug away.. asa ka ana, sa bibliya ang ginoo maoy magsugo na pamatyon imong kontra.. mangayo pa jud ug blessing before mu-adto ug gubat.. naunsa gud na gud.. abi nko Oneness, tua diay nagkigaway sa di parehas ug tinuohan...


    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    Whatever Ill stick with my Faith. You dont care do you? Then keep it that way.

    Bible does not serve anyone's purpose but Christ alone. If wala paka naka sabot pm nalang brad explain nako... kay public argument is full of PRIDE and we will be running in circles...

    Brad ayaw na gamita ang Bibliya sa inyo Agenda, Really it doesn't serve you well...
    yeah, stick with your faith.. it will do you good.. kung bati na gani ang labas, aw its time to reflect kung unsay effects anang faith sa imong kina-iya.. diha na ka muquestion.. (kung allowed mo sa inyong church mu-question sa inyong faith hap.. pero kung dili aww no choice na ka..)

    murag wa man nagsulti na biya-i inyong relihiyon.. ang point sa topic is just to point out the common principles shared by all great religions.. ambot, basig lahi lang akong sabot sa Title sa topic.. lahi pud imo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    nobody's using the bible for any agenda whatsoever, sir kebs. if there's anybody who are using the bible fervently, it's those who cherish Christianity. i see nothing wrong with that either. but you really can't stop some people who want to view the bible as nothing more than just a wonderful book with good stories and moral lessons we could learn from. these people want to view the events in the bible in a historical perspective and we can't really blame them because they're subject to their own freewill and accord. while some of them may have found something historically interesting in the bible, believe me, it is not their purpose to discredit the sacred book, but somehow, offer a different perspective in reading it. and that, is based on the historical perspective. i know and i understand how difficult these may sound to you and/or anyone who regard the bible as the Word of God, and in behalf of them, i apologize if we may have caused you offense in our criticisms, but deep inside, we're just acting out of what we believe in. just the same as you are acting on what you believe. now, what i propose, is that, maybe we could start anew minus the derogatory remarks from both sides. actually start respecting each other. mr.kebot, sir, i must tell you this, that i still don't believe the bible as the Word of God in its perfectness. but i'm still hoping we could still respect each other. perhaps you could still treat me as a friend even though i'm a heretic. but rest assured, i won't attack you and/or any zealous religionists in here. i respect you all. namaste.

    wow! i luv this sooo muuchh! Oneness doesnt mean surrendering our individual beliefs,,,we see things differently pero it doesnt have to follow that we have to be enemies di ba,,sana ganito na rin si regknowledge, di na pala-away,he,he,he

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