Should our next Constitution ban political dynasties?

[samsungster]

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sana!! up to fourth degree of consanguinity!!

[cebu-future]

Absolutely yes! But I doubt it will happen kay this dynasties will vote against it ahahaha.

[miyay]

husto jud tomas pag ingon niya na di siya uyon na padaganon si margot. di mulambo ang lugar kung polital dynasty ang mupadagan sa gobyerno. i've seen it here in eastern visayas.

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

By enabling a law where circumstances would make it possible i.e. Charter change. And parameters should be set so as not to violate any rights. as one argument said here, "Politics is not a family business." and Mayor Tomas can well agree w/ me on that. He did not buy the idea of Margot or his sister running for mayor but instead re-endorsed Mike Rama.

The present Constitution already disallows political dynasties, but it requires an enabling law. and because politicians a.k.a. Senators and Congressmen will never craft the enabling law in order not to lose their “family business” and their respective fiefdoms, best way I think is to go parliamentary, abolish the senate, and overhaul the whole legislative branch. let's remember that Congress, after the passage of 1987 Constitution, deliberately refuses to pass the enabling law for self-interest ad nauseam et ad perpetuam.



the Phils is having a semi-feudal kind of democracy where only 10% of the population controls most of the country's wealth while majority remain poor. It's not inevitable. It actually can be changed. but in time lang when we mature politically. and i think it has even started.

even MALACAÑANG admitted just few days ago that a social volcano due to social unrest is brewing, but insisted President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo is not to blame for it.

the social volcano is a result of a semi-feudal setup where only 10 percent of the population control majority of the country's wealth.

As per Press Sec Cerge Remonde, "That is why Mrs. Arroyo made it a priority to alleviate the situation of the poor. He said the gov't under Arroyo is pushing "genuine peaceful social transformation," which should be the duty of all succeeding leaders. The present administration is likewise undertaking a moral recovery program under the Presidential Commission on Values Formation and the Presidential Anti-Graft Commission. In the meantime, the gov't continues to invest in infrastructure and human development.

Mrs. Arroyo urged officials of banking institutions last Tuesday to be more active in lending especially for infrastructure projects", he said.

(source: Sun.Star Cebu, 6/13/09)

I will take that with a little grain of salt though...but we should not lose hope.

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"Analysts and foreigners say that the Filipinos’ fixation on political families reveals the state of our political immaturity: we may now move in information superhighways but we have retained a remnant of our feudal state. In a primitive agricultural economy where the state is hardly present or too bureaucratic and remote, the community leans heavily on the richest and nearest family that’s willing to help in exchange for labor and loyalty." ~ Mayette Tabada, Sun.Star

and what are the parameters? disallow the son to run for mayor? when the father's term ends or disallow th son to run for any public office?

banning political dyanasties is easy, but implementing it will be difficult... the parameters are abstracts in nature...

the truth of the mater in any country political dynasty exist or shall we say political families... why should we curtail the rights of the son to serve because the father has already served?

in someways we must still look at people as individual person and not as only part of a family...

no we cannot ban political families... but we can stop power hungry families through clean and honest election, through mature voters, through education and vigilance... and through continuation of CARP.. strip of these families of their lands and give it to their workers and tenants.. people must learn choose leaders base on merit and not base on family names... thats the true political maturity..

changing the consti to answer the prob on political dyansty is a mere ploy... i think... CARP makes more sense than banning political dynasties...

[tom_book]

tomas idol!!! get one of your people to run "for you" and still be mayor...

[giddyboy]

and what are the parameters? disallow the son to run for mayor? when the father's term ends or disallow th son to run for any public office?

banning political dyanasties is easy, but implementing it will be difficult... the parameters are abstracts in nature...

actually, a bill has been authored by Sen. Lacson and is now approved at the committee level in the Senate and endorsed for plenary deliberations.

PARAMETERS

The bill prohibits the spouse or persons related within the second degree of consanguinity or affinity, whether legitimate or illegitimate, full or half blood of an incumbent public official seeking re-election from holding or running for any elective office in the same municipality/city legislative district and/or province in the same election or occupying the same office after the term of office of the incumbent elective official.

“Additionally, it also prohibits two or more persons, who have political dynasty relationship from running simultaneously for an elective office within the same municipality/city, legislative district and/or province, even if neither is so related to the incumbent public official,” Lacson said in his explanatory note of the bill.

so u see, these parameters are not abstract but concrete in nature. actually, it will not be difficult to implement this law once passed. the difficult part instead is passing the law mismo.

the truth of the mater in any country political dynasty exist or shall we say political families... why should we curtail the rights of the son to serve because the father has already served? in someways we must still look at people as individual person and not as only part of a family...

the rights of the general citizenry supersedes that of the rights of the son or relative. When it comes to public service, mangibabaw gyud ang rights sa mga tawo and the better good. Suma gud, in the case of hiring, nka lapas ba diay ug balaud nang dili i-hire ang asawa, or son, sa same gov't office? wala di ba? it's because hiring a relative would be tantamount to nepotism.

that's basically the same principle sa elections pud unta.

no we cannot ban political families... but we can stop power hungry families through clean and honest election, through mature voters, through education and vigilance... and through continuation of CARP.. strip of these families of their lands and give it to their workers and tenants.. people must learn choose leaders base on merit and not base on family names... thats the true political maturity..

that's ur opinion...

changing the consti to answer the prob on political dyansty is a mere ploy... i think... CARP makes more sense than banning political dynasties...

there was no implying here that changing the consti is merely to answer the problem on political dynasties. Answering the problem of political dynasties is only one small factor why we have to amend or change the consti...

as Rep Salimbangon said, some reasons why the need to amend the charter:

(1) reversal of the 60-40 Internal Revenue Allotment (IRA) sharing scheme, with 60 percent going to the local government units (LGUs) instead of the current 40 percent.
(2) election of senators by region for equal representation, and increased number of Senate seats from 24 to 50.
(3) to reduce the president’s term to just four years instead of six, with a chance at a re-election.
(4) provide salaries instead of honoraria for barangay captains

[Luskan]

No, that will disqualify Sir. Tom

[gadfly]

sana!! up to fourth degree of consanguinity!!

and affinity?

No, that will disqualify Sir. Tom

so what?

[vp-rakista]

i'm against political dynasty... dili na ma-audit ang previous nga leader sa mga corruption iya nabuhat kung ang magsunod member ra sab sa pamilya

[vp-rakista]

murag ma-useless ra pud ang election every 3-years kay basically wala man nailisan ang leadership, ang pag-padagan could mostly be controlled ra pud sa ex-leader. so NO to political dynasty