Pagan Origins of the Christian Faith (Phil. Daily Inquirer)

[NASYO]

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YES cus even the church did not claim nga its the only source of truth,

How would you like to react if I will say that truth may be seen/heard thru song lyrics.
like "Imagine"

[regnauld]

speak latin, mr.regnauld kay those words are outside the church's influence. that's an error already.

"Melior Victus Per Navis"

[Hellblazer 2.1]

that's better. asa na man to si tonio?

[st.anthony]

murag contradicting man imong statements, tonio. if the catholic church is not the only source of truth, then that would mean that there should be other sources of truth outside the church. then that would be outside the influence of the church. and if it's outside the church's influence, then it could be teaching some things that are "contrary to christian teachings" kay other sources of truth lagi. does that mean it's heretical already? and for the sake of argument, if the catholic church is not the only source of truth, then it would mean that heretical teachings could be sources of truth gihapon, don't you agree?

NO its not contradicting, cus even if your from a different religion or sect but your teaching on morals e.i. faith, hope and love then its not contradicting, however every religion and denomination differs in doctrines in which " what is acceptable to them is acceptable to us, and what is acceptable to us is not acceptable them too, so on and so forth".

However christian heresies have a different case, since they where teaching the faithful doctrines which was not accepted by the whole church, however if there was any mistake in the magisteriums end then it didnt have any reserve to have it corrected.

[regnauld]

“Iam non perfecta, sed tamen etiam pulchra”.

OM SHANTI to ALL!

[st.anthony]

How would you like to react if I will say that truth may be seen/heard thru song lyrics.
like "Imagine"

thats for you to decide not the church and neither for me say things about that since that your personal conviction.

[st.anthony]

that's better. asa na man to si tonio?

nara ko oi, naa lang ko lain g buhat

[regnauld]

Πάτερ ἡμῶν ὁ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς·
ἁγιασθήτω τὸ ὄνομά σου·
ἐλθέτω ἡ βασιλεία σου·
γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου, ὡς ἐν οὐρανῷ καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς·
τὸν ἄρτον ἡμῶν τὸν ἐπιούσιον δὸς ἡμῖν σήμερον·
καὶ ἄφες ἡμῖν τὰ ὀφειλήματα ἡμῶν,
ὡς καὶ ἡμεῖς ἀφίεμεν τοῖς ὀφειλέταις ἡμῶν·
καὶ μὴ εἰσενέγκῃς ἡμᾶς εἰς πειρασμόν,
ἀλλὰ ῥῦσαι ἡμᾶς ἀπὸ τοῦ πονηροῦ.
[Ὅτι σοῦ ἐστιν ἡ βασιλεία καὶ ἡ δύναμις καὶ ἡ δόξα εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας. ἀμήν.


Shalom Israel!

[The_Child]

murag contradicting man imong statements, tonio. if the catholic church is not the only source of truth, then that would mean that there should be other sources of truth outside the church. then that would be outside the influence of the church. and if it's outside the church's influence, then it could be teaching some things that are "contrary to christian teachings" kay other sources of truth lagi. does that mean it's heretical already? and for the sake of argument, if the catholic church is not the only source of truth, then it would mean that heretical teachings could be sources of truth gihapon, don't you agree?

kahibalo mo, the church exercises authority in interpretation within its ownself. unlike other sects, other institutions, other pretentious people, orthodoxy continues to run in the entire church since it is not dependent upon half-baked interpretation of some people, either because he felt he saw light above him or he had an overdose of a certain exotic herb.

as a regulating tenet, the Church as the Magisterium is an authority in the interpretation of God-Talk within at least itself. NOw, i dont understand why people outside the church find that problematic, since they are not catholics and they do not have to deal with it.

if you ask me, would i rather believe on an institution tested by time - a product of great mind, or some questionable scholar or attempting to be scholars who for the sorry lack of decent foundation in the topic results to charlatan tricks. to go against an institution tested by time for a millennia, a person who will be able to bring a paradigm shift must be a genius. in this age, there are none that fits that quality.

all we have are parlor tricks desperate for full professorships.

[The_Child]

Truth is a tricky thing, you think in an age where phd's are cheap, anybody could just "know" what truth is?

we catholics, in matter of God-talk rely on the magisterium, as our guide, other sources of truth? perhaps. but then again, are we that keen to know that those other sources are really pointing to the truth or are we just excited with the fact that because its "forbidden" hidden" "controversial" "unconventional" then it must necessarily contain truth? the latter is plain child's play. duwa-duwa ra sa mga walay unod ang paghunahuna.