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    Lol No i'm not referring to you as the atheist, im talking about someone not here in istorya.net, he was raised as a Catholic, but did not believe in God due to the life he is forced to live, but we get along with each other so well, boozing and watching p**n and beer with other friends.

    Pics lang sa mga gwapa

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Pope Leo X was a great failure during the time of Reformation especially that he was a corrupt pope who was exposed by Martin Luther.




    Leo X

    Papacy began March 9, 1513 (elected)
    March 11, 1513 (proclaimed) Papacy ended December 1, 1521 Predecessor Julius II Successor Adrian VI
    Birth name Giovanni de'Medici Born December 11, 1475(1475-12-11)
    Florence, Italy Died December 1, 1521 (aged 45)

    Pope Leo X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Another worst and corrupt pope was Pope Alexander VI

    Pope Alexander VI[1] (1 January 1431 – 18 August 1503), born Roderic Llançol, later Roderic de Borja i Borja (Italian: Rodrigo Borgia) was Pope from 1492 to 1503. He is the most controversial of the secular popes of the Renaissance, and his surname (Italianized as Borgia) became a byword for the debased standards of the papacy of that era. He was famously a syphilitic.

    Alexander VI Papacy began August 11, 1492 Papacy ended August 18, 1503 Predecessor Innocent VIII Successor Pius III
    Birth name Roderic Llançol de Borja i Borja (in Catalan) (Italian: Rodrigo Borgia) Born January 1, 1431(1431-01-01)
    Xàtiva, Valencia, Spain Died August 18, 1503 (aged 72)
    Rome, Italy



    Mistresses and family



    Vannozza dei Cattanei




    "Lady with Unicorn" Presumed portrait of Giulia Farnese by Raphael




    Giovanni de Candia Borgia, 2nd Duke of Gandia.




    Lucrezia Borgia, the daughter of Pope Alexander VI, was given an opulent wedding at the Vatican Palace.




    Goffredo Borgia (1482 – 1522) Prince of Squillace.


    Of Alexander's many mistresses the one for whom his passion lasted longest was a certain Vannozza (Giovanna) dei Cattani, born in 1442, and wife of three successive husbands. The connection began in 1470, and she bore him four children whom he openly acknowledged as his own: Giovanni, afterwards duke of Gandia (born 1474), Cesare (born 1476), Lucrezia (born 1480), and Goffredo or Giuffre (born 1481 or 1482). His other children – Girolamo, Isabella and Pier Luigi – were of uncertain parentage. Before his elevation to the papacy Cardinal Borgia's passion for Vannozza somewhat diminished, and she subsequently led a very retired life. Her place in his affections was filled by the beautiful Giulia Farnese (Giulia Bella), wife of an Orsini, but his love for his children by Vannozza remained as strong as ever and proved, indeed, the determining factor of his whole career. He lavished vast sums on them and loaded them with every honour. The atmosphere of Alexander's household is typified by the fact that his daughter Lucrezia lived with his mistress Giulia, who bore him a daughter, Laura, in 1492.

    He is the ancestor of virtually all Royal Houses of Europe, mainly the Southern and Western ones, for being the ancestor of Doña Luisa de Guzmán, wife of King John IV of Portugal.


    Queen Luísa de Gusmão


    Pope Alexander VI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Kadaghan ba ana reg oi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    Kadaghan ba ana reg oi...
    Unsay daghan? ang mistress ni Pope Alexander VI? Hell yeah!

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    OT: Girolamo Savonarola (September 21, 1452 – May 23, 149, was an Italian Dominican priest and leader of Florence from 1494 until his execution in 1498. He was known for his book burning, destruction of what he considered immoral art, and hostility to the Renaissance. He vehemently preached against the moral corruption of much of the clergy at the time, and his main opponent was Pope Alexander VI (Rodrigo Borgia).

    In the twentieth century, a movement for the canonization of Frà Savonarola began to develop within the Roman Catholic Church, particularly among Dominicans, with many judging his excommunication and execution to have been unjust. His potential beatification and canonization is opposed by many Jesuits, who consider Savonarola's (secular) conflict with the papacy to have been an intolerable crime.[5]


    Girolamo Savonarola by Fra Bartolomeo, c. 1498

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    Isn't it ironic that the Roman Church condemned heretics and then planned for their canonization years after?
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    GOD bless the Heretics!

    Special mentioned goes to:

    1. St. Joan of Arc

    2. Giordano Bruno

    3. Copernicus

    4. Galileo Galilei

    5. Roger Bacon (Franciscan)

    6. Girolamo Savonarola (Dominican)

    7. Meister Eckart (Dominican)

    8. Leonardo da Vinci

    9. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (Jesuit)

    10. Baltasar Gracian (Jesuit)

    11. Martin Luther (Augustinian)
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    Quote Originally Posted by st.anthony View Post
    Again who have a very disoriented claims, Please read and understand the philosophy, idiology, beliefs and culture and people at that time, maybe somehow you will understand.
    Very disoriented claims? I was not claiming manoy Tonio but only asking a question. Can't you analyze it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    unsa lagi?? ayaw baliha ang storya puppy?? explain it why Jesus is false??
    Can't you understand what Pope Leo X had said?

    It has served us well, this myth of Christ’

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    @Reg, elaborate tingale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Not the Church? And who composes the church? GOD? hehehe
    EVERY one who is a member of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH are its members, not since the leaders have made a mistake thus that mean the members too? where did you learn that?

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